Current Events > Do you think Solid Snake would survive all the Resident Evil incidents?

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g0ldie posted...

Wesker has superhuman speed, strength, reaction time, and special forces training

nothing about the Skulls showed much higher thought other than Quiet

I mean, if Chris can...

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Just give Snake some rockets to surf on.

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nope
because i dont recall many airducts in re1
so hed be dead

yunalenne10 posted...

I mean, if Chris can...

true, but that didn't make sense either.

but how's Snake going to put Wesker in the volcano since Wesker can dodge anything shot at him without some kinda help.

I forget the context of the whole bolder punching nonsense, so idk how that helped Chris and Sheva

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g0ldie posted...

true, but that didn't make sense either.

but how's Snake going to put Wesker in the volcano since Wesker can dodge anything shot at him without some kinda help.

I forget the context of the whole bolder punching nonsense, so idk how that helped Chris and Sheva

he punched it to get to the other side iirc

Obviously yes.

If the argument is skill alone doesn't mean winning thinking and intelligence does, snake has that beat too

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kidrobot posted...

he punched it to get to the other side iirc

oh yea, I think Snake could jump over it

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Geez, half of you people are either trolling or have no idea what you're talking about. Literally downplayed Snake to the point where he's a child.

The guy who takes down other super soldiers, armies of fully armed soldiers and special units, supernatural beings, literal walking nuclear warheads and survive/fight to extreme measures in any environment, including a body thats fit for a 90 year old.

This topic is a fucking mess.

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Snake is a better soldier and fighter than Leon and Chris. If the latter can survive the RE series Snake can definitely too.

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g0ldie posted...

true, but that didn't make sense either.

but how's Snake going to put Wesker in the volcano since Wesker can dodge anything shot at him without some kinda help.

I forget the context of the whole bolder punching nonsense, so idk how that helped Chris and Sheva

How about the "7 minutes" playtime? Wasn't Wesker considered defeated?

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g0ldie posted...

oh yea, I think Snake could jump over it

i dont think so, he can probably climb over it though

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Geez, half of you people are either trolling or have no idea what you're talking about. Literally downplayed Snake to the point where he's a child.

The guy who takes down other super soldiers, armies of fully armed soldiers and special units, supernatural beings, literal walking nuclear warheads and survive/fight to extreme measures in any environment, including a body thats fit for a 90 year old.

https://youtu.be/gJR6GkO5AAI?t=932
https://youtu.be/PBQ4OxrFqnw?t=476
https://youtu.be/PLjcdbhlFXw?t=771
https://youtu.be/3ahsXCmN2Gk?t=132
https://youtu.be/_-qKl-dpWbk?t=207

Snake isn't Batman with time to plan. He's not a Superhero, you being a fanboy doesn't make him immune to Zombie bites.

You can't hide from Zombie Hordes and you can't punch punch kick them to death.

Remember what happens on the Tanker if you alert the crew? Instant game over.

Snake is an experienced soldier like all the other dudes the zombies killed were. And he would get bit.

As I said outside of RE7 and Ada's RE6 path, every other story would result in "and then the zombie bit him"

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Snake isn't Batman with time to plan. He's not a Superhero,

You're legit the only person drawing the conclusion. That we think this. No one is claiming that. It's become glaringly obvious you're either trolling, or have no idea what you're talking about.

And bringing up Kratos and Samus just made it more obvious.

And BTW, if you do genuinely think this, realize Kratos has blades, attacked to a chain, than can cut through stone. He has medusa's head, the golden fleece (legit makes him invulnerable to a bite lmao), and a myriad of god abilities.

Enjoy your ignorance buddy.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Remember what happens on the Tanker if you alert the crew? Instant game over.

Oh and this, has to do with the fact it's an entire army WITH GUNS, against a guy who only found a pistol. You're not gonna have 40+zombies point guns at him.

May Odin grant you some wisdom.

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g0ldie posted...

if Wesker can dodge bullets shot at point blank range, he can't maneuver past someone's movements?

Pretty sure quiet and if not gene where quick enough to dodge gunfire from up close. Null was quick enough to deflect them with a machete

Side question that now bugs me never thought of it mantis could literally mind control people why not snake?

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This topic should of been a poll I'm surprised at how many people believe snake isnt capable.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Superhero, you being a fanboy doesn't make him immune to Zombie bites.

You can't hide from Zombie Hordes and you can't punch punch kick them to death.

Remember what happens on the Tanker if you alert the crew? Instant game over.

Snake is an experienced soldier like all the other dudes the zombies killed were. And he would get bit.

As I said outside of RE7 and Ada's RE6 path, every other story would result in "and then the zombie bit him"

Those zombies wouldnt even get near him. Hes taken out whole units of specialised, fully armed genome soldiers in close quarters tight spaces unscathed. And you seriously think a slow moving piece of meat is going to get ahold of him?

Even the faster zombies like a hunter, crimson head, hound or licker wouldnt be able to take him on. Snake is literally able dodge bullets, hold up a Metal gear and punch a hole through concrete or steel.

The guy has fought soldiers from Foxhound, who have supernatural strength, speed, reflexes and even mind control. Hes taken on the beauty and the beast unit, literal people in super powered mechs.

Not to mention, venom snake has actually fought zombie like creatures in MGSV. And solid snake has surpassed the likes of him, big boss and liquid snake.

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The worse part of this topic is the fact that people keep bringing up zombie bites, but only the T-Virus spreads through a bite.

Also Claire is literally a random fucking person with no training whatsoever.

Also your whole argument is other people got bit so Snake would too because he's over confident. Which doesn't make any sense. Snake is extraordinary cautious, and literally created to be the ultimate soldier.

Not to mention some people have a natural immunity to it so Snake being developed to be the ultimate solider would be immune.
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apocalyptic_4 posted...

This topic should of been a poll I'm surprised at how many people believe snake isnt capable.

Downplaying Snake isn't exactly new to me. I've remember people saying Raiden was a much better solider than Snake back in the MGS2 days.

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harley2280 posted...

Also Claire is literally a random fucking person with no training whatsoever.

She was trained by Chris but yeah she got no super official training.

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And guys, there are T Virus cures in the RE world. Whose to say Snake wouldn't be able to procure them if he needs to?

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Veggeta X posted...

Downplaying Snake isn't exactly new to me. I've remember people saying Raiden was a much better solider than Snake back in the MGS2 days.

I'd say raidens feats are more impressive due to not having the heritage training or expierence solid had (i at least like to believe big boss gave him at least a little training). So being thrown in from the start against a unit on the same playing field as foxhound and a allegedly superior metal gear. Solid at least had mission intrude n313 and Zanzibar land and I assume other small missions under his belt before taking on foxhound and rex. All raiden had was child soldier and vr

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Veggeta X posted...

And guys, there are T Virus cures in the RE world. Whose to say Snake wouldn't be able to procure them if he needs to?

No no, apparently all his training, him being a super soldier and literally living in hell on earth his whole life, experience in constant danger and warzones and his supernatural feats and instict to survive doesn't really matter, because a slow and rotting moving meat sack would 'bite' him.

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Veggeta X posted...

And guys, there are T Virus cures in the RE world. Whose to say Snake wouldn't be able to procure them if he needs to?

Snake doesn't need a cure. Like Wesker he's lab made. So he has the same immunity that Wesker does.
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Veggeta X posted...

Wesker even in his fucking flash-step form was still able to get caught up by Snake's CQC.

Huh?

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harley2280 posted...

Snake doesn't need a cure. Like Wesker he's lab made. So he has the same immunity that Wesker does.

that's totally different, as Wesker's lab treatments are related to all the different viruses you come across in the RE games

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mooreandrew58 posted...

Side question that now bugs me never thought of it mantis could literally mind control people why not snake?

Because he put he controller in the other port, duh

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Human_Username posted...

Because he put he controller in the other port, duh

Right forgot he does force to change ypur aim and miss if you dont. But I was more thinking like what he did with Meryl. Just straight up take control of his body and out a end to the fight there. My only guess was due to liquids plan needing solid most of thr hound members went easy on him so he could continue.

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Someone explain to this Regular User what flash step is omg

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Veggeta X posted...

Someone explain to this Regular User what flash step is omg

Jesus fucking christ dude...

When was he caught by Snake's CQC?

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mooreandrew58 posted...

Right forgot he does force to change ypur aim and miss if you dont. But I was more thinking like what he did with Meryl. Just straight up take control of his body and out a end to the fight there. My only guess was due to liquids plan needing solid most of thr hound members went easy on him so he could continue.

I'm almost positive there's a post fight line along the lines of "I couldn't control you... You switched the ports... Clever" or something, but it's been like 15 years.

Other than kojima being kojima, I don't think there's an in-universe answer.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

Right forgot he does force to change ypur aim and miss if you dont. But I was more thinking like what he did with Meryl. Just straight up take control of his body and out a end to the fight there. My only guess was due to liquids plan needing solid most of thr hound members went easy on him so he could continue.

I think it might be that I order to do that, you have to "mind meld" with the person and Snakes memories were a little to ficked up, even for Mantis. Or something about him being a clone. Idk.

I really dont think Raven or Wolf were taking it easy in him.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

Pretty sure quiet and if not gene where quick enough to dodge gunfire from up close. Null was quick enough to deflect them with a machete

Side question that now bugs me never thought of it mantis could literally mind control people why not snake?

iirc, the canon reason is that since Snake was created to be sterile, he had no desire for procreating, and that's why he was able to beat Mantis...for some reason

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SolidShadow3 posted...

I think it might be that I order to do that, you have to "mind meld" with the person and Snakes memories were a little to ficked up, even for Mantis. Or something about him being a clone. Idk.

I really dont think Raven or Wolf were taking it easy in him.

I felt like wolf toyed with him as toying with her pray just seems like its something she would do. Its just that part of the plot alwaya bugged me. They needed him alive until he did a particular thing yet they keep throwing themselves at him trying to kill him. Maybe im forgetting something

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apocalyptic_4 posted...

This topic should of been a poll I'm surprised at how many people believe snake isnt capable.

That's the thing, it's not about how cool you think Snake is.

He'd just get bitten and die. These are zombie hordes. CQC is useless, hiding is useless, all the capable cops and veterans and umbrella corps guys get overwhelmed.

.https://youtu.be/lExP69tP40U?t=94

People are seeing this as an attack on Snake's popularity rather than what's displayed in canon in the Metal Gear series and what's displayed in Canon in the RE series.

There is absolutely nothing to suggest Snake wouldn't just get bit. Why he would suddenly act like he has a crisis of confident and behave like a 18 year old girl, instead of trying to hide or fight the horde and die like everyone else who tried that.

Going "No Snake would just just 1 vs 7,000 all the zombies hand to hand and fuck Jill on a big pile of money because he's the best!" is just fanboying. All of the Metal Gear games show Snake fucking up and getting defeated. In the RE world you only need to be bit once.

Ask Richard Aiken and Enrico Marini and the veteran expert cops and Umbrella Corps guys how well taking the fight to the Zombies went

Ask Dario Rosso how well hiding went.

All of Snake's strengths are neutralized by Zombies. He runs up to punch one, is bit. Dies.

He hides in a vent, Zombies lie on the floor among corpses, he steps out of vent, is bit. Dies.

The things you need to surrive in the RE world, Teamwork, inventory management, keenness to run away, lack of confidence in your own skill to handle the situation, puzzle solving... These are all anti-thetical to the skills and personality every incarnation of Snake has displayed.

It's not his wheelhouse.

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g0ldie posted...

harley2280 posted...

Snake doesn't need a cure. Like Wesker he's lab made. So he has the same immunity that Wesker does.

that's totally different, as Wesker's lab treatments are related to all the different viruses you come across in the RE games

Both lab made. The Patriots are an incredibly complex AI system. They would have made sure their insurance plan was immune to being zombied. He's the Ultimate solider.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

All of Snake's strengths are neutralized by Zombies. He runs up to punch one, is bit. Dies.

Snake isn't a Melee fighter jesus christ. How do you have such a bad understanding of the character.

He specializes in on site procurement missions.
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harley2280 posted...

Snake isn't a Melee fighter jesus christ. How do you have such a bad understanding of the character.

He specializes in on site procurement missions.

Also hiding isnt his specialty. Stealth is. I think he would be smart enough to know he doesn't have to engage every zombie around. Fight only the ones that get in his way and avoid the rest. Kind of like how he deals with enemy human combatants.

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harley2280 posted...

Snake isn't a Melee fighter jesus christ. How do you have such a bad understanding of the character.

He specializes in on site procurement missions.

Dude literally half the people in the topic are arguing that Snake would defeat the Zombie Hordes because he is an expert martial artist.

Now you're turning around and 180ing the exact opposite and arguing he can't fight.

And while you lot sort out which you want to go with (spoilers, Snake is a talented meele fighter) Everything else I said still is true. "Snake speializies in on site procurement missions" Well good for him because he's going to procure the T-Virus in his bloodstream when he gets bit by a Zombie because hiding didn't work and taking the fight to them doesn't work.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Dude literally half the people in the topic are arguing that Snake would defeat the Zombie Hordes because he is an expert martial artist.

Now you're turning around and 180ing the exact opposite and arguing he can't fight.

And while you lot sort out which you want to go with (spoilers, Snake is a talented meele fighter) Everything else I said still is true. "Snake speializies in on site procurement missions" Well good for him because he's going to procure the T-Virus in his bloodstream when he gets bit by a Zombie because hiding didn't work and taking the fight to them doesn't work.

Personally if I bring up his melee skills it would be for one or just a few zombies. Not a horde. Larger groups snake would definitely sneak past or blow up with a rocket launcher if he had one and it was the best option. Point some us try to make is someone like Leon is definitely not vastly superior to snake so if he can manage so would snake.

Play V there are zombie like enemies in the game snake handles them fine using stealth and headshots

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UnfairRepresent posted...

harley2280 posted...

Snake isn't a Melee fighter jesus christ. How do you have such a bad understanding of the character.

He specializes in on site procurement missions.

Dude literally half the people in the topic are arguing that Snake would defeat the Zombie Hordes because he is an expert martial artist.

Now you're turning around and 180ing the exact opposite and arguing he can't fight.

And while you lot sort out which you want to go with (spoilers, Snake is a talented meele fighter) Everything else I said still is true. "Snake speializies in on site procurement missions" Well good for him because he's going to procure the T-Virus in his bloodstream when he gets bit by a Zombie because hiding didn't work and taking the fight to them doesn't work.

Stealth and hiding don't mean the same thing. Infected aren't psychic and they don't have any type of super human awareness.

You really haven't ever played Metal Gear and it shows.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Point some us try to make is someone like Leon is definitely not vastly superior to snake so if he can manage so would snake.

Then you're admitting you never read my posts or played RE games.

All the guys who are superior to Leon (except maybe Chris) died. Because they were overconfident and tried to fight or hide from the Zombies.

You keep ignoring that and going "But Snake is so cool doe!" when the Metal Gear series repeatedly demonstrates how not perfect Snake is. Naked Snake got beaten up by a girl and Volgin and was captured, Solid Snake was captured and slapped around multiple times, it's demonstrated that they are humans and no match for a group.

Snake's skills are hiding and fighting which are anti-thetical to the skills needed to survive RE.

In RE1 he gets eaten by dogs outside the manner due to not having a team to shoot at them. Or he gets in the manor then is eaten by zombies due to not having a team to shoot at them, or crushed by the ceiling due to not having a team to prevent a Snake sandwich
I already posted clips of the Umbrella Corps and Expert cops getting creamed in RE2/3 and it's displayed the guys who hid died. Leon, Jill and Claire survive due to spending the entire game running away and repeatedly getting their butts saved by other people.
RE4 Leon uses Siege tactics and running away to survive the villiage.
Re5 The hordes in AFrica are overwhelming and often in plain spaces.

Snake has zero experience with Zombies and all the skills and personality traits demonstrated in the Metal Gear games demonstrate that he would get bit.

All you can do to counter that is ignore ALL the events of all the RE and MG games, then go "Snake is so cool tho, way cooler than Leon so he;d survive." which is just fanboying.

Only ones I can buy Snake doing are RE7 and Ada's path in RE6. Otherwise you have to totally break character and skillset to justify how he doesn't get bit

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harley2280 posted...

Stealth and hiding don't mean the same thing. Infected aren't psychic and they don't have any type of super human awareness.

You really haven't ever played Metal Gear and it shows.

No he hasnt. Hes just taking random clips off YouTube and doesnt actually know any of the characters canon feats.

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I think hes just trolling for attention now actually.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Naked Snake got beaten up by a girl

SpiritSephiroth posted...

harley2280 posted...

Stealth and hiding don't mean the same thing. Infected aren't psychic and they don't have any type of super human awareness.

You really haven't ever played Metal Gear and it shows.

No he hasnt. Hes just taking random clips off YouTube and doesnt actually know any of the characters canon feats.

Yeah that post confirms it's just pure trolling.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Snake's skills are hiding and fighting which are anti-thetical to the skills needed to survive RE

Apparently you never played metal gear. Snakes skills are stealth and always finding the tools he needs to get by. He escaped confinement with ketchup. He beat a man wielding a machine gun with a aerosol can and a lighter. He does not go around engaging every enemy in the area. He would probably fight less than the RE protags do.

But mostly like any other fictional character that makes habit of defeating far superior enemies he has plot armor aka luck.

Dont even say im fanboying either. Solid snake is my least favorite protag in mgs series. Only snake I like less is liquid. Im more a big boss fanboy. Big boss young anyways would likely be a idiot and try to eat one after killing it. Either way I feel all the snakes have the pyhsical and mental capability to have as much of a chance as any RE character. They know how to adapt. Big boss whines in 3 that he's never operated in a jungle yet he does it.

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harley2280 posted...

Snake doesn't need a cure. Like Wesker he's lab made. So he has the same immunity that Wesker does.

nope, he easily catches a cold when out in the snow after a few minutes

I think it is says it all that every point I've raised is just being ignored with "You never played MGS!" or "you're a troll!"

Even though I'm literally the only one in the topic who has cited direct examples in detail of events that happen in the games in both series.

Again it just displays the fanboyism

It's not an attack on Snake to point out he would get bit and die. He can still be your fave character ever. But he would get bit and die:

UnfairRepresent posted...

All the guys who are superior to Leon (except maybe Chris) died. Because they were overconfident and tried to fight or hide from the Zombies.

You keep ignoring that and going "But Snake is so cool doe!" when the Metal Gear series repeatedly demonstrates how not perfect Snake is. Naked Snake got beaten up by a girl and Volgin and was captured, Solid Snake was captured and slapped around multiple times, it's demonstrated that they are humans and no match for a group.

Snake's skills are hiding and fighting which are anti-thetical to the skills needed to survive RE.

In RE1 he gets eaten by dogs outside the manner due to not having a team to shoot at them. Or he gets in the manor then is eaten by zombies due to not having a team to shoot at them, or crushed by the ceiling due to not having a team to prevent a Snake sandwich
I already posted clips of the Umbrella Corps and Expert cops getting creamed in RE2/3 and it's displayed the guys who hid died. Leon, Jill and Claire survive due to spending the entire game running away and repeatedly getting their butts saved by other people.
RE4 Leon uses Siege tactics and running away to survive the villiage.
Re5 The hordes in AFrica are overwhelming and often in plain spaces.

Snake has zero experience with Zombies and all the skills and personality traits demonstrated in the Metal Gear games demonstrate that he would get bit.

All you can do to counter that is ignore ALL the events of all the RE and MG games, then go "Snake is so cool tho, way cooler than Leon so he;d survive." which is just fanboying.

Only ones I can buy Snake doing are RE7 and Ada's path in RE6. Otherwise you have to totally break character and skillset to justify how he doesn't get bit

^ That can't just be ignored.

Snake has 0 ability taking on groups.
Snake has 0 reason not to trust his own skillls.
Snake would not run away from the Zombies. He would try to hide to take them on and both result in death.
Snake does not have friendship or back up in the RE world to save him like all the RE protags were saved.
Snake is utterly useless against a horde or a Tyrant.
Snake has 0 ability to solve puzzles
Snake is frequently captured or defeated or takes hits when fighting. Against Zombies this is fatal.

Going "but he's more experienced than Leon in military training" is actually an argument AGAINST your point as all those people? You guessed it. Got bit by Zombies. To survive RE Snake would have to spend nearly the entire time running away from zombies he wouldn't feel confident engaging, not attempt to hide and try to solve puzzles while getting help from allies he doesn't know...

It doesn't add up. That character you just imagined is not Snake. It's just Leon in snake's outfit.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

I think it is says it all that every point I've raised is just being ignored with "You never played MGS!" or "you're a troll!"

Even though I'm literally the only one in the topic who has cited direct examples in detail of events that happen in the games in both series.

Again it just displays the fanboyism

It's not an attack on Snake to point out he would get bit and die. He can still be your fave character ever. But he would get bit and die:

^ That can't just be ignored.

Snake has 0 ability taking on groups.
Snake has 0 reason not to trust his own skillls.
Snake would not run away from the Zombies. He would try to hide to take them on and both result in death.
Snake does not have friendship or back up in the RE world to save him like all the RE protags were saved.
Snake is utterly useless against a horde or a Tyrant.
Snake has 0 ability to solve puzzles
Snake is frequently captured or defeated or takes hits when fighting. Against Zombies this is fatal.

Going "but he's more experienced than Leon in military training" is actually an argument AGAINST your point as all those people? You guessed it. Got bit by Zombies. To survive RE Snake would have to spend nearly the entire time running away from zombies he wouldn't feel confident engaging, not attempt to hide and try to solve puzzles while getting help from allies he doesn't know...

It doesn't add up. That character you just imagined is not Snake. It's just Leon in snake's outfit.

You're so tiring to talk to.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

Those zombies wouldnt even get near him. Hes taken out whole units of specialised, fully armed genome soldiers in close quarters tight spaces unscathed. And you seriously think a slow moving piece of meat is going to get ahold of him?

Even the faster zombies like a hunter, crimson head, hound or licker wouldnt be able to take him on. Snake is literally able dodge bullets, hold up a Metal gear and punch a hole through concrete or steel.

The guy has fought soldiers from Foxhound, who have supernatural strength, speed, reflexes and even mind control. Hes taken on the beauty and the beast unit, literal people in super powered mechs.

Not to mention, venom snake has actually fought zombie like creatures in MGSV. And solid snake has surpassed the likes of him, big boss and liquid snake.

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I'd definitely die

Probably by my own hand

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