Current Events > What happens if 10% of the USA population refuses to get a covid vaccine?

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BignutzisBack 01/23/21 10:10:04 PM #1:	Will we still be okay? Because there are evidently a lot more anti vaxxers around me than I first thought, I have two co-workers in my department who are openly stating they won't get the vaccine and I definitely don't want to sit by them if that's the case. --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:949845688] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Will we still be okay? Because there are evidently a lot more anti vaxxers around me than I first thought, I have two co-workers in my department who are openly stating they won't get the vaccine and I definitely don't want to sit by them if that's the case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 01/23/21 10:10:37 PM #2:	Hopefully arrests --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:949845704] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully arrests </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
inTaCtfuL 01/23/21 10:11:42 PM #3:	We should be fine if it's only 10% Iirc you need to vaccinate 70% of the population for herd immunity to kick in --- i7-3970X Extreme ~ Asus Rampage IV Extreme ~ 32 GB DDR3-2133 ~ 10 TB 7200RPM ~ 500 GB SSD ~ 690 x2 ~ 1200 W PSU Gold ~ <cite>inTaCtfuL posted [p:949845733] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>We should be fine if it's only 10% Iirc you need to vaccinate 70% of the population for herd immunity to kick in </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightingaleMD 01/23/21 10:12:33 PM #4:	10% is probably okay I mean ideally everyone, but that would still give enough herd immunity given the logic the 1 out of 10 people wouldn't often run into each other. I think 85% is considered decent herd immunity? Immunology is a distant memory. --- Pit doc <cite>NightingaleMD posted [p:949845765] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>10% is probably okay I mean ideally everyone, but that would still give enough herd immunity given the logic the 1 out of 10 people wouldn't often run into each other. I think 85% is considered decent herd immunity? Immunology is a distant memory. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 01/23/21 10:13:22 PM #5:	All rights should be suspended. The right to vote, their credit and assets frozen, a lien put on any property they own, public naming and shaming. That's a good start. If they refuse from there, then we can start with the fines, then imprisonment, then exile. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:949845794] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>All rights should be suspended. The right to vote, their credit and assets frozen, a lien put on any property they own, public naming and shaming. That's a good start. If they refuse from there, then we can start with the fines, then imprisonment, then exile. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 01/23/21 10:13:46 PM #6:	well, if its just 10% that go unvaccinated then we'd be fine, that's well within the required rate for herd immunity to actually work. thing is it'll likely be well above 10% that try to refuse. Irony posted... Hopefully arrests doubtful, but there's nothing stopping your business from firing you for refusing a vaccine. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:949845807] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>well, if its just 10% that go unvaccinated then we'd be fine, that's well within the required rate for herd immunity to actually work. thing is it'll likely be well above 10% that try to refuse. Irony posted... </cite> <quote>Hopefully arrests</quote>doubtful, but there's nothing stopping your business from firing you for refusing a vaccine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 01/23/21 10:17:12 PM #7:	Hopefully darwinism kicks in and removes them from the equation. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:949845929] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully darwinism kicks in and removes them from the equation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 01/23/21 10:18:16 PM #8:	Most of them will get it, some will die from it, and they will still call it a hoax because a lot of people are fucking stupid --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. =~=; Vicious_Dios Original - https://tinyurl.com/y9fpdoll <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:949845972] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Most of them will get it, some will die from it, and they will still call it a hoax because a lot of people are fucking stupid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 01/23/21 10:18:39 PM #9:	harley2280 posted... Hopefully darwinism kicks in and removes them from the equation. downside to this is it also helps the virus evolve to avoid the vaccine... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:949845982] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted... </cite> <quote>Hopefully darwinism kicks in and removes them from the equation.</quote>downside to this is it also helps the virus evolve to avoid the vaccine... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeGuyUO 01/23/21 10:20:22 PM #10:	What happens if another 10% of people aren't able to get the vaccine? <cite>SomeGuyUO posted [p:949846039] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>What happens if another 10% of people aren't able to get the vaccine? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sewage 01/23/21 10:27:10 PM #11:	If just 10% refuse to get the vaccine then we are in an amazing place and a damn miracle happened. SomeGuyUO posted... What happens if another 10% of people aren't able to get the vaccine? Even that would be miraculous. <cite>Sewage posted [p:949846243] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>If just 10% refuse to get the vaccine then we are in an amazing place and a damn miracle happened. SomeGuyUO posted... </cite> <quote>What happens if another 10% of people aren't able to get the vaccine?</quote>Even that would be miraculous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoke_break 01/23/21 10:28:02 PM #12:	We're about to find out. --- https://imgur.com/mOCFlRv <cite>smoke_break posted [p:949846273] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>We're about to find out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightingaleMD 01/23/21 10:38:55 PM #13:	True Most studies I've seen seem to indicate around only half of people will actually get it Which makes it somewhat useless. However, these mRNA vaccines seem to get humoral and cellular immunity well. People that are vaccinated are PROBABLY not going to be able to transmit it or really get that sick. So, the population that doesn't vaccinate is essentially going to self-select for whatever consequence that comes. --- Pit doc <cite>NightingaleMD posted [p:949846644] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>True Most studies I've seen seem to indicate around only half of people will actually get it Which makes it somewhat useless. However, these mRNA vaccines seem to get humoral and cellular immunity well. People that are vaccinated are PROBABLY not going to be able to transmit it or really get that sick. So, the population that doesn't vaccinate is essentially going to self-select for whatever consequence that comes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 01/23/21 10:40:55 PM #14:	Some of that 10% die, the rest eventually get immunity the old-fashioned way. --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet <cite>Trumble posted [p:949846715] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Some of that 10% die, the rest eventually get immunity the old-fashioned way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 01/23/21 10:41:38 PM #15:	Damn, 10% of the population is a lot of people to have to launch into the sun --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:949846749] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Damn, 10% of the population is a lot of people to have to launch into the sun</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 01/23/21 10:41:50 PM #16:	Some of them will die off when they get it, and the ones that survive will build immunity from it. The vaccine, from what I understand, only protect the person who takes it from getting sick. However, they can still carry the virus and spread it. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:949846759] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Some of them will die off when they get it, and the ones that survive will build immunity from it. The vaccine, from what I understand, only protect the person who takes it from getting sick. However, they can still carry the virus and spread it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightingaleMD 01/23/21 10:42:29 PM #17:	Trumble posted... Some of that 10% die, the rest eventually get immunity the old-fashioned way. The natural antibodies fade away after 6 months So no that's how people are getting sick multiple times, and the second time around can be worse --- Pit doc <cite>NightingaleMD posted [p:949846779] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite> <quote>Some of that 10% die, the rest eventually get immunity the old-fashioned way.</quote> The natural antibodies fade away after 6 months So no that's how people are getting sick multiple times, and the second time around can be worse </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Popo 01/23/21 10:42:39 PM #18:	Sewage posted... If just 10% refuse to get the vaccine then we are in an amazing place and a damn miracle happened. This. Some polls have as many as 40% saying they wont get it. --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The Popo posted [p:949846787] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Sewage posted... </cite> <quote>If just 10% refuse to get the vaccine then we are in an amazing place and a damn miracle happened.</quote> This. Some polls have as many as 40% saying they wont get it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
420TwiZtiD420 01/23/21 10:48:32 PM #19:	pogo_rabid posted... All rights should be suspended. The right to vote, their credit and assets frozen, a lien put on any property they own, public naming and shaming. That's a good start. If they refuse from there, then we can start with the fines, then imprisonment, then exile. --- fay ce que vouldras <cite>420TwiZtiD420 posted [p:949846969] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>All rights should be suspended. The right to vote, their credit and assets frozen, a lien put on any property they own, public naming and shaming. That's a good start. If they refuse from there, then we can start with the fines, then imprisonment, then exile.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobalt_Wasps 01/23/21 10:48:35 PM #20:	deep seeded social distrust and further class division nothing new --- there is no authority but yourself <cite>Cobalt_Wasps posted [p:949846971] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>deep seeded social distrust and further class division nothing new </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 01/23/21 10:49:46 PM #21:	I'll be waiting a few months before maybe getting mine. So what'll happen if anything will be amusing to watch. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:949847007] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>I'll be waiting a few months before maybe getting mine. So what'll happen if anything will be amusing to watch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 01/23/21 10:50:07 PM #22:	The Popo posted... This. Some polls have as many as 40% saying they wont get it. lets be honest here, political polling is broken. and yes, asking about covid is political now... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:949847019] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>The Popo posted... </cite> <quote>This. Some polls have as many as 40% saying they wont get it.</quote>lets be honest here, political polling is broken. and yes, asking about covid is political now... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sewage 01/23/21 10:50:30 PM #23:	Really though 40% isn't even that scary of a number if we're talking this early on. We need a lot of them to change their mind, but I believe it's about 70% that we need to feel like we for sure have herd immunity. If these 40% are steadfast against a vaccine, then that's a problem, but typically some of the people saying no change their mind after more testing and more success. If just 40% refuse right now, I don't think it's out of the question that 10% change their mind if the vaccine is shown to be safe and effective. <cite>Sewage posted [p:949847031] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Really though 40% isn't even that scary of a number if we're talking this early on. We need a lot of them to change their mind, but I believe it's about 70% that we need to feel like we for sure have herd immunity. If these 40% are steadfast against a vaccine, then that's a problem, but typically some of the people saying no change their mind after more testing and more success. If just 40% refuse right now, I don't think it's out of the question that 10% change their mind if the vaccine is shown to be safe and effective. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sewage 01/23/21 10:51:46 PM #24:	monkmith posted... lets be honest here, political polling is broken. and yes, asking about covid is political now... Sadly this too. It could be a much higher than 40%. <cite>Sewage posted [p:949847079] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>lets be honest here, political polling is broken. and yes, asking about covid is political now...</quote>Sadly this too. It could be a much higher than 40%. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fossil 01/23/21 10:51:51 PM #25:	pogo_rabid posted... All rights should be suspended. The right to vote, their credit and assets frozen, a lien put on any property they own, public naming and shaming. That's a good start. If they refuse from there, then we can start with the fines, then imprisonment, then exile. lmao <cite>Fossil posted [p:949847080] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>All rights should be suspended. The right to vote, their credit and assets frozen, a lien put on any property they own, public naming and shaming. That's a good start. If they refuse from there, then we can start with the fines, then imprisonment, then exile.</quote>lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 01/23/21 10:58:34 PM #26:	I think a lot of people are reasonably skeptical about how quick these vaccines have developed, but they don't understand that the reason for it is because a lot of the red tape beauracratic stuff was cut out and shifting priorities allowed researchers to get it done this quickly as it became the only focus for a lot of these companies. Not to also mention the use of modern scientific tools. The vaccine still followed the usual testing and review process and also had thousands of people volunteering for the clinical trials. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:949847291] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>I think a lot of people are reasonably skeptical about how quick these vaccines have developed, but they don't understand that the reason for it is because a lot of the red tape beauracratic stuff was cut out and shifting priorities allowed researchers to get it done this quickly as it became the only focus for a lot of these companies. Not to also mention the use of modern scientific tools. The vaccine still followed the usual testing and review process and also had thousands of people volunteering for the clinical trials. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 01/23/21 11:02:29 PM #27:	NightingaleMD posted... The natural antibodies fade away after 6 months So no that's how people are getting sick multiple times, and the second time around can be worse Then more of that 10% die. We just have to hope they don't spread it to people who aren't being morons but have legitimate medical reasons they can't receive the vaccine. --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet <cite>Trumble posted [p:949847406] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>NightingaleMD posted... </cite> <quote>The natural antibodies fade away after 6 months So no that's how people are getting sick multiple times, and the second time around can be worse</quote> Then more of that 10% die. We just have to hope they don't spread it to people who aren't being morons but have legitimate medical reasons they can't receive the vaccine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 01/23/21 11:05:28 PM #28:	Trumble posted... Then more of that 10% die. We just have to hope they don't spread it to people who aren't being morons but have legitimate medical reasons they can't receive the vaccine. or that a large chunk of the population, willing to act as a host for a virus known to rapidly mutate, dont accidentally on purpose help the virus evolve to avoid the vaccines... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:949847494] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite> <quote>Then more of that 10% die. We just have to hope they don't spread it to people who aren't being morons but have legitimate medical reasons they can't receive the vaccine.</quote>or that a large chunk of the population, willing to act as a host for a virus known to rapidly mutate, dont accidentally on purpose help the virus evolve to avoid the vaccines... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 01/23/21 11:11:30 PM #29:	Then we have an issue that's 10% as bad as we have now Even though it's an exponential problem, so it's like 1% of the issue we have now. They'll just get sick and go to the hospital, maybe, probably not --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:949847684] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Then we have an issue that's 10% as bad as we have now Even though it's an exponential problem, so it's like 1% of the issue we have now. They'll just get sick and go to the hospital, maybe, probably not </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Illuminoius 01/23/21 11:20:13 PM #30:	well, it looks like 10% of the population is stupid and wants to get infected <cite>Illuminoius posted [p:949847942] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>well, it looks like 10% of the population is stupid and wants to get infected </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCodeisBosco 01/23/21 11:25:19 PM #31:	CommonStar posted... I think a lot of people are reasonably skeptical about how quick these vaccines have developed, but they don't understand that the reason for it is because a lot of the red tape beauracratic stuff was cut out and shifting priorities allowed researchers to get it done this quickly as it became the only focus for a lot of these companies. Not to also mention the use of modern scientific tools. The vaccine still followed the usual testing and review process and also had thousands of people volunteering for the clinical trials. Excellent post. This is how I've felt, albeit expressed more articulately. But people still tend to shoot back with "Well, I still think it's too fast" >_> --- The music was thud-like. The music was... thud-like. <cite>TheCodeisBosco posted [p:949848094] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>CommonStar posted... </cite> <quote>I think a lot of people are reasonably skeptical about how quick these vaccines have developed, but they don't understand that the reason for it is because a lot of the red tape beauracratic stuff was cut out and shifting priorities allowed researchers to get it done this quickly as it became the only focus for a lot of these companies. Not to also mention the use of modern scientific tools. The vaccine still followed the usual testing and review process and also had thousands of people volunteering for the clinical trials.</quote> Excellent post. This is how I've felt, albeit expressed more articulately. But people still tend to shoot back with "Well, I still think it's too fast" >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Popo 01/24/21 12:00:17 AM #32:	TheCodeisBosco posted... But people still tend to shoot back with "Well, I still think it's too fast" The average American be like... --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The Popo posted [p:949849211] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>TheCodeisBosco posted... </cite> <quote>But people still tend to shoot back with "Well, I still think it's too fast"</quote> The average American be like... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chadwick69 01/24/21 12:04:35 AM #33:	I'll get the vaccine but I ain't gonna be first in line that's for sure. Ima wait a couple months to see if any bad shit pops up first. <cite>Chadwick69 posted [p:949849371] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>I'll get the vaccine but I ain't gonna be first in line that's for sure. Ima wait a couple months to see if any bad shit pops up first. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 01/24/21 12:16:02 AM #34:	Chadwick69 posted... I'll get the vaccine but I ain't gonna be first in line that's for sure. Ima wait a couple months to see if any bad shit pops up first. If you're waiting that long, might as well wait for the more traditional one to hit --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:949849785] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Chadwick69 posted... </cite> <quote>I'll get the vaccine but I ain't gonna be first in line that's for sure. Ima wait a couple months to see if any bad shit pops up first.</quote> If you're waiting that long, might as well wait for the more traditional one to hit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vermander 01/24/21 2:40:32 PM #35:	harley2280 posted... Hopefully darwinism kicks in and removes them from the equation. This doesnt make sense. Wouldnt this defeat the point of caring if the 10% who are unprotected die anyways? --- Nintendo Switch FC: SW-0807-8653-6885 "Blue has the most anti-oxygens." <cite>Vermander posted [p:949866649] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>harley2280 posted...</cite> <quote>Hopefully darwinism kicks in and removes them from the equation.</quote> This doesnt make sense. Wouldnt this defeat the point of caring if the 10% who are unprotected die anyways?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 01/24/21 5:12:08 PM #36:	Vermander posted... harley2280 posted... Hopefully darwinism kicks in and removes them from the equation. This doesnt make sense. Wouldnt this defeat the point of caring if the 10% who are unprotected die anyways? There's a big difference in people dying because other people won't take easy precautions, and people dying because they're stupid. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:949872764] in What happe... [t:79256433]...</cite> <quote>Vermander posted...</cite> <quote> harley2280 posted...</cite> <quote> Hopefully darwinism kicks in and removes them from the equation. </quote> This doesnt make sense. Wouldnt this defeat the point of caring if the 10% who are unprotected die anyways?</quote> There's a big difference in people dying because other people won't take easy precautions, and people dying because they're stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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