Current Events > Why didn't Hillary Clinton win in 2016?

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Virtual_Console
01/12/21 7:59:54 PM
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She had such a strong base and following and everyone thought she would win. Why didn't she win back then?

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blablablax17
01/12/21 8:01:17 PM
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Complacency.
Low voter turnout.
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Antifar
01/12/21 8:01:57 PM
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A variety of factors, including but not limited to
- bad campaign strategy
- not being liked
- the electoral college
- James Comey
- media that did not take Trump seriously

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UnholyMudcrab
01/12/21 8:02:07 PM
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Wetterdew
01/12/21 8:02:07 PM
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Complacency, young people not voting, and everybody underestimated how many people in America enjoy the spectacle of trump.

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Riev
01/12/21 8:02:18 PM
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Because she's female
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Wetterdew
01/12/21 8:03:02 PM
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Riev posted...
Because she's female
that too, I'm confident she would have won if male

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Christian RULES
01/12/21 8:03:57 PM
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Because Trump's base is bigger and stronger.

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Antifar
01/12/21 8:04:13 PM
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Christian RULES posted...
Because Trump's base is bigger and stronger.
Well that's not true

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Pitlord_Special
01/12/21 8:04:16 PM
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The Comey surprise (announcing they were re-opening an FBI investigation into her emails mere days before Election Day)

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jason19192
01/12/21 8:04:16 PM
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She was a woman, russia interfering in the election in trump's favor, and the FBI investigating her emails right before the election.
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COVxy
01/12/21 8:25:04 PM
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Antifar posted...
A variety of factors, including but not limited to
- bad campaign strategy
- not being liked
- the electoral college
- James Comey
- media that did not take Trump seriously

Lol.

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Virtual_Console
01/12/21 8:52:03 PM
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Pitlord_Special posted...
The Comey surprise (announcing they were re-opening an FBI investigation into her emails mere days before Election Day)

Then why did Trump fire Comey when he in fact helped Trump win?

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EnvoyOfTheLight
01/12/21 8:52:45 PM
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Low education voters confuse likeability with presidential competence.

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Antifar
01/12/21 8:53:27 PM
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Virtual_Console posted...
Then why did Trump fire Comey when he in fact helped Trump win?
Trump's very stupid for one, and also Comey was pursuing an investigation into the Trump campaign's dealings with Russia

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Unsugarized_Foo
01/12/21 8:55:05 PM
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She sucked worse than Donnie

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Amy Chao
01/12/21 8:59:26 PM
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Can someone explain the Russian thing? Also didn't people just troll vote trump into office??
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Iodine
01/12/21 8:59:40 PM
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Antifar posted...
A variety of factors, including but not limited to
- bad campaign strategy
- not being liked
- the electoral college
- James Comey
- media that did not take Trump seriously


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EnvoyOfTheLight
01/12/21 9:01:20 PM
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Amy Chao posted...
Can someone explain the Russian thing? Also didn't people just troll vote trump into office??

Donald and Jr. sought Russian help to get dirt on his election opponents. They tried, but they failed as talks broke down.

This is on record. This was Jr.'s lawyer's defense.

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obsolete
01/12/21 9:03:59 PM
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electoral college
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Bleuets
01/12/21 9:06:39 PM
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Pokmon go to the polls!
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Musourenka
01/12/21 9:08:07 PM
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Antifar posted...
Trump's very stupid for one, and also Comey was pursuing an investigation into the Trump campaign's dealings with Russia

Additionally, Comey never would agree to Trump's demands that Comey tell the media that Trump was clear of the investigation.

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The Popo
01/12/21 9:19:22 PM
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Riev posted...
Because she's female

Sexism is 100% an issue in this country and in politics, but I question the degree that it factored into her losing. She won the popular vote by 5 million+ votes, after all.

I think people were tired of legacy presidents (12 years of Bush, and the 8 years of Bill Clinton, followed by two intense presidential bids by Hilary in 2008 & 2016, not to mention another bid from another Bush in 2016), and Trump had a way of suckering people in with his stupid nickname of Crooked Hilary, during a time when her name was in the news a lot during that time for the email controversy. People are stupid and easily swayed by stuff like that.

Sexism had to have played some role in her loss, but I dont think it was the factor by any stretch.

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COVxy
01/12/21 9:22:50 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Scribble over it in red ink, scrawl BERNIE BROS above it and give him an F

Naw, i just think the deliberate avoidance of Russian interference and sexism too prototypical to not laugh at.

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Coca-Cola
01/12/21 9:23:42 PM
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Spooking posted...
Bernie Bros


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ElatedVenusaur
01/12/21 9:37:32 PM
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To expound on one factor: its my understanding Hillary ran an extremely top-down campaign. Nothing was done without the say-so of the Brooklyn-based HQ, which was run mostly by analysis of demographics and polling data(internal and external). They were generally dismissive of outside orgs and even local Dem parties, and insisted on running things themselves. This led to them, for example, ignoring the warnings of local party officials and organizers about Wisconsin, because their data said everything was fine.
One of the problems with their approach is that they were, essentially, always seeing the race as it was a week or more ago, rather than where it was in the here and now.
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Northlane
01/12/21 9:40:41 PM
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Underestimated the importance of the rust belt

Change that one thing and she wins

Kind of like how if the Falcons had run the ball just once or twice more in the second half of their super bowl loss vs the Patriots, they probably win

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dameon_reaper
01/12/21 9:43:13 PM
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Think of it like this: No one expected Trump and a lot of people didn't realize how terrible it was. After 4 years of it, almost everyone sane realized that it was a huge mistake and the turn out was better. It was less about supporting Biden and more about getting rid of Trump.

I strongly feel that a single kiwi could have ran the Democrat party and would have won.
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CobraGT
01/12/21 9:51:36 PM
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Virtual_Console posted...
Then why did Trump fire Comey when he in fact helped Trump win?

What makes you think Trump rewards people who help him win?

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iPhone_7
01/12/21 9:53:59 PM
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It was Comeys fault. He announced that he was re-opening the investigation and that cause undecided voters to not vote for Hillary. Thats gotta be the reason because its certainly nothing that she did. People loved her especially the ones in the rust belt. It was Comeys fault.

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SauI_Goodman
01/12/21 9:55:15 PM
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She lost pennsylvainia because of "if you work in coal, im gonna lay you off! Right, tim!"

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UnholyMudcrab
01/12/21 9:57:23 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
It was Comeys fault. He announced that he was re-opening the investigation and that cause undecided voters to not vote for Hillary. Thats gotta be the reason because its certainly nothing that she did. People loved her especially the ones in the rust belt. It was Comeys fault.

It was just the kind of event to push ambivalent voters in those states into the other camp
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