Current Events > If you do not believe in evolution

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You are just appallingly ignorant

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How so TC

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evolution is a mystery

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PokemonExpert44 posted...

How so TC

By lack of education

SSJGrimReaper posted...

evolution is a mystery

Some of it is but the evidence is robust

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SSJGrimReaper posted...

evolution is a mystery

This

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SaltyWet posted...

By lack of education

Some of it is but the evidence is robust

Lack of education on what? What evidence for evolution is robust to you?

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I believe in dragonball evolution

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SSJGrimReaper posted...

evolution is a mystery

Thanks Lemmy

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If evolution is real, why are there both Pikachu and Raichu?

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PokemonExpert44 posted...

Lack of education on what? What evidence for evolution is robust to you?

That animals are well adapted to their environment?

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SaltyWet posted...

That animals are well adapted to their environment?

You can easily say that's due to intelligent design.

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Squall28 posted...

You can easily say that's due to intelligent design.

SaltyWet is not even considering intelligent design.

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Not necessarily. You'd be ignorant if you didn't know the mechanisms behind the theory.

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I had a friendship end in the 9th grade basically because I'm an Atheist and my friend at the time didn't accept the theory of evolution and we sat next to each other in Biology class.

It's too bad I liked the guy but it was just too much of a difference for him lol

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Intelligent design hasn't been scrutinized as a scientific theory

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Squall28 posted...

If evolution is real, why are there both Pikachu and Raichu?

If Raichu evolved from Pikachu, how come theres still Pikachus around???

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Evolution? Yes.

Evolution theory? Fuck no, miss me with that racist shit.

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SaltyWet posted...

Intelligent design hasn't been scrutinized as a scientific theory

Yes, it has. Many people in intelligent design now see it as science. When it started as a theory, it was also scientific.

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PokemonExpert44 posted...

Yes, it has. Many people in intelligent design now see it as science.

Are you trolling?

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SaltyWet posted...

Are you trolling?

Nope. Can you answer my post?

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Intelligent Design is pseudoscience and I'll leave it at that.

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SaltyWet posted...

Intelligent Design is pseudoscience and I'll leave it at that.

Do you believe in the unified field theory and universal consciousness?

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Xenozoa425 posted...

Do you believe in the unified field theory and universal consciousness?

i dunno

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SaltyWet posted...

i dunno

Well intelligent design takes a lot of inspiration from those and the very principles of the universe.

Just because it's a pseudoscience doesn't mean that metaphysics can't be applied to it. It's just that you can't use conventional scientific principles to measure something that generally doesn't follow the rules of physical relativity, and we KNOW that things like quantum entanglement and dark/antimatter exist. We KNOW that different octaves and frequencies of light or sound can be used to create geometric shapes in substances like water or sand with mathematical precision (such as snowflakes). We KNOW that emotions and thoughts are tied to biometrics and emit/are affected by different electromagnetic frequencies, which are all light and/or sound.

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As long as they understand what evolution is and how it works then at least they're not making a judgement based off from ignorance.

Anyways Intelligent Design is fine, just so long as you don't try to push your theology as the conclusion... which many religious nutcracks do anyways.

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dont dogs prove evolution?

i dont get how people think evolution isnt real.

there are organs in our body that make no sense other than evolution

There's two very strong points for intelligent design.

1. The first is the fine-tuned universe argument, that argues on how the very slightest variation in our universal constants could crumble our whole universe.
2. The second is the extreme complexity of life, boiled down to our very DNA which has such an elaborate amount of information, it's hard to not believe it was artificially created.

From what I observe, athiests argue the first point with the multiverse theory, which is just as baseless and unscientific, making their point rather moot and hypocritical.
They argue the second point by obviously...natural selection. I wouldn't say it's not plausible given our DNA has lots of junk info too but it still doesn't explain how life came to being that way in the first place. Even if natural selection is the mechanism, there has to be a doer/creator behind this mechanism, no? Randomness alone doesn't explain it.

Poop2 posted...

dont dogs prove evolution?

i dont get how people think evolution isnt real.

there are organs in our body that make no sense other than evolution

I'm pretty sure most people ,even logical Christians, believe in evolution, or at least most of it. I'm pretty sure everyone can agree how dogs evolved from wolves or how we evolved from apes. However, some may still find it rather shady we evolved all the way from a fish in the ocean.

Also, many Christians combine science and their religion by believing God is the one who created evolution. Especially so if you don't count the evangalicals and creationists (those who take the Bible at face value). Those that give leeway to their beliefs can reconcile how dinosaurs may exist with Adam and Eve or something but I doubt they think much of it given the controversial nature of thought

I mean, all you need to do is take a look at my signature while holding concepts like universal consciousness, law of attraction and unified field theory. Everything in the universe is based on two principles, electricity and magnetism. The elements that make up all substances are bonded to each other through positive/negative energy that is manifested through the electromagnetic spectrum.

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Xenozoa425 posted...

I mean, all you need to do is take a look at my signature while holding concepts like universal consciousness, law of attraction and unified field theory. Everything in the universe is based on two principles, electricity and magnetism.

What's your definition of God? Because it sure doesnt sound like the Abarahamic God you're going after

Mackorov posted...

What's your definition of God? Because it sure doesnt sound like the Abarahamic God you're going after

My signature is my definition. God is not a person, place, thing or idea. It is the cosmos itself, the totality of everything at its highest level of awareness of itself. We as human people are children of the cosmos, born of the same elements as stars and planets. We are souls that have decided to have a human experience on planet Earth. Our bodies are temporary, but our souls are eternal. We share the gift of consciousness, an extension of awareness of universal consciousness itself; we are all connected to everything at all points in space and time, and our thoughts give us the power to manifest our own realities. When we die, we simply eject our of our vessels, like returning a rental car, and depending on how we've treated our bodies, minds and spirits, we strive to reach celestial union with our peak state of awareness, which would be considered enlightenment or "god mode", where you exist as a pure light entity.

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dolomedes posted...

no, there's not.

yes there is.

Unless science can adamantly prove these unknowns, people can still resort to the god argument. The only way I've seen athiests fight back is disregard the arguments altogether, which only reveals their hypocrisy. Like claiming the universe can still harbour life even with changes to the universal variables. However, this detaches from our very definition of what life is meant to be in the first place. To argue back they themselves have to resort to pure speculation on their end too.

Also, I think a lot of people also get confused betw. god and religion. The two are NOT necessarily associated. A lot of Chrisitans however have ruined the intelligent design argument by tossing their Abrahamic god into the picture. If so, yeah so it's easy to make fun of the Bible and point of its flaws.

One instead can define a god as simply as intelligent creator. These are not religion but philosophical beliefs. The two most common are pantheism and deism. Charles Darwin himself is a deist if you didn't know. Yes, the creator of evolution believed in a god. Ironic huh.

A lot of scientists nowadays are also creating their own 'religion' since we can no longer resort to material means of backing up science. For instance, they actually believe in panspermia, the theory that aliens actually created life. In this case, we could call the aliens 'god', no?
But then again, the question begs who created the aliens then?

Xenozoa425 posted...

My signature is my definition. God is not a person, place, thing or idea. It is the cosmos itself, the totality of everything at its highest level of awareness of itself. We as human people are children of the cosmos, born of the same elements as stars and planets. We are souls that have decided to have a human experience on planet Earth. Our bodies are temporary, but our souls are eternal. We share the gift of consciousness, an extension of awareness of universal consciousness itself; we are all connected to everything at all points in space and time, and our thoughts give us the power to manifest our own realities. When we die, we simply eject our of our vessels, like returning a rental car, and depending on how we've treated our bodies, minds and spirits, we strive to reach celestial union with our peak state of awareness, which would be considered enlightenment or "god mode", where you exist as a pure light entity.

that's called being a panthiest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

I'm personally more on the side of deism if you ask me.

Mackorov posted...

that's called being a panthiest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

I'm personally more on the side of deism if you ask me.

I can never accept deism, because to accept that ideology means that you believe in something that is outside your means of control; that your existence is externally based and your energy is always directed outward, never being allowed or able to develop your inner self. When in reality, we are all born with the power of consciousness; the power to master the intuitive creative nature of internal self, in order to project and manifest our reality outward, as dictated by the nature of relativity itself and the fundamental laws of the universe.

An example would be if you were to go to the beach and fill a jug of water from the ocean. Years pass by. The water is so detached from itself, that it believes it is the jug, and the ocean is God, and it prays to the ocean for strength so that it may one day join. When in reality, the jug is just a tiny piece of the ocean in a mere physical vessel; it is made of the same elements as the ocean, it has all the same power and properties as the ocean, but the extent of that power or its properties is limited solely by the vessel that it occupies. Our bodies are the same way, we have so much power within us, yet we throw it away for moments of pleasure on this physical plane of existence.

Who needs meditation and a strong immune system when you can get some vagina and play Spider-Man on PS5 while eating a Big Mac.

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dolomedes posted...

lmao @ this fuckin topic

What part?

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dolomedes posted...

you're out of your mind

you think evolution's lynchpin is that it's hard to believe?

since when and where did I even mention evolution?

evolution is the least hard thing. In fact it's very easy to reconcile. Just put god behind evolution.
You see where the problem lies? That's why the god-of-the-gaps fallacy is so easy to use despite it being a fallacy

Xenozoa425 posted...

I can never accept deism, because to accept that ideology means that you believe in something that is outside your means of control; that your existence is externally based and your energy is always directed outward, never being allowed or able to develop your inner self. When in reality, we are all born with the power of consciousness; the power to master the intuitive creative nature of internal self, in order to project and manifest our reality outward, as dictated by the nature of relativity itself and the fundamental laws of the universe.

An example would be if you were to go to the beach and fill a jug of water from the ocean. Years pass by. The water is so detached from itself, that it believes it is the jug, and the ocean is God, and it prays to the ocean for strength so that it may one day join. When in reality, the jug is just a tiny piece of the ocean in a mere physical vessel; it is made of the same elements as the ocean, it has all the same power and properties as the ocean, but the extent of that power or its properties is limited solely by the vessel that it occupies. Our bodies are the same way, we have so much power within us, yet we throw it away for moments of pleasure on this physical plane of existence.

Who needs meditation and a strong immune system when you can get some vagina and play Spider-Man on PS5 while eating a Big Mac.

sure. what's your greater purpose in life then?

Facts don't care about their feelings

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SaltyWet posted...

Are you trolling?

Youre going to have a headache trying to make sense of that members views. He doesnt recognize Catholics as Christians, for example. The evolution pushback from him makes more sense, when you realize what youre dealing with.

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Mackorov posted...

sure. what's your greater purpose in life then?

Everyone's purpose should be to live a moral and righteous life in balance with nature, gain experience and knowledge to ascend into a higher level of consciousness.

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