Current Events > Our programmers took down our time-tracking system without notifying anyone.

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Solar_Crimson 11/12/20 8:48:47 AM #1:	We're getting a bunch of tickets in this morning from users who are unable to punch in their times, especially if they are working remotely (where it can be done via a web interface). Turns out, it's because the programmers took the system down for an upgrade that they say won't be finished until tomorrow, and that people working remotely will have to tell their supervisors of their times. ....Don't you think that's something that should have been sent out in an organization-wide email the day before? --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:947071521] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>We're getting a bunch of tickets in this morning from users who are unable to punch in their times, especially if they are working remotely (where it can be done via a web interface). Turns out, it's because the programmers took the system down for an upgrade that they say won't be finished until tomorrow, and that people working remotely will have to tell their supervisors of their times. ....Don't you think that's something that should have been sent out in an organization-wide email the day before? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/12/20 8:52:17 AM #4:	It's not the programmers responsibility to tell people that. Hell they shouldn't even be really be applying the upgrades. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:947071620] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>It's not the programmers responsibility to tell people that. Hell they shouldn't even be really be applying the upgrades. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 11/12/20 8:53:32 AM #5:	Ah, time tracking issues. Earlier this week the website for my companies time tracking had unscheduled maintenance to fix something, so no one could punch in, we got a ton of emails with people screenshoting the page saying what is going on, they can't login can you fix it? Do people not understand the words: Unscheduled Maintenance? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:947071643] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>Ah, time tracking issues. Earlier this week the website for my companies time tracking had unscheduled maintenance to fix something, so no one could punch in, we got a ton of emails with people screenshoting the page saying what is going on, they can't login can you fix it? Do people not understand the words: Unscheduled Maintenance? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 11/12/20 9:02:43 AM #6:	Oh, NOW they sent out the email. Well, better late than never, I guess. Tyranthraxus posted... It's not the programmers responsibility to tell people that. Hell they shouldn't even be really be applying the upgrades. I don't know if our System Admins are helping them or not, but the programmers here definitely do work on upgrades of certain systems/applications. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:947071860] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>Oh, NOW they sent out the email. Well, better late than never, I guess. Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>It's not the programmers responsibility to tell people that. Hell they shouldn't even be really be applying the upgrades.</quote>I don't know if our System Admins are helping them or not, but the programmers here definitely do work on upgrades of certain systems/applications. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 11/12/20 9:03:05 AM #7:	Tyranthraxus posted... It's not the programmers responsibility to tell people that. Hell they shouldn't even be really be applying the upgrades. This, sounds like support dropped the ball not development. --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://imgur.com/FKDXbHs <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:947071873] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>It's not the programmers responsibility to tell people that. Hell they shouldn't even be really be applying the upgrades.</quote>This, sounds like support dropped the ball not development. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/12/20 9:17:02 AM #8:	Solar_Crimson posted... I don't know if our System Admins are helping them or not, but the programmers here definitely do work on upgrades of certain systems/applications. Usually what happens or at least in larger companies is there's a Systems / IT team responsible for Operating System patches and ac separate Operations team that does software patches. You usually don't want developers messing around in live environments. When things get smaller though developers will do the work of all three of those departments + QA combined. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:947072234] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>I don't know if our System Admins are helping them or not, but the programmers here definitely do work on upgrades of certain systems/applications.</quote> Usually what happens or at least in larger companies is there's a Systems / IT team responsible for Operating System patches and ac separate Operations team that does software patches. You usually don't want developers messing around in live environments. When things get smaller though developers will do the work of all three of those departments + QA combined. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 11/12/20 9:36:05 AM #10:	In our organization, the programmers are part of the IT staff. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:947072787] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>In our organization, the programmers are part of the IT staff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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warlock7735 11/12/20 11:25:23 AM #12:	Welcome to devops. The worst trend in corporate --- CE Mafia Archive https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u3gaka98zsp3m0e/AADYBrilDyGYhlAbpEnac5d_a?dl=0 <cite>warlock7735 posted [p:947076382] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>Welcome to devops. The worst trend in corporate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 11/12/20 11:29:06 AM #13:	i don't get the point of time tracking shouldn't results be the only thing that matters --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:947076530] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>i don't get the point of time tracking shouldn't results be the only thing that matters </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/12/20 11:44:06 AM #14:	TheMikh posted... i don't get the point of time tracking shouldn't results be the only thing that matters It's all just a way to inject a blue-collar "time clock" into a white-collar office-space. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:947077131] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted... </cite> <quote>i don't get the point of time tracking shouldn't results be the only thing that matters</quote>It's all just a way to inject a blue-collar "time clock" into a white-collar office-space. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 11/12/20 1:19:00 PM #15:	TheMikh posted... i don't get the point of time tracking shouldn't results be the only thing that matters It's almost entirely done for tax purposes. The hours I spend on new development count as R&D which my company gets a tax break for, hours I spend on bug fixing or maintenance don't. Not to mention you might have contract workers who get taxed differently. --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://imgur.com/FKDXbHs <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:947080965] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted... </cite> <quote>i don't get the point of time tracking shouldn't results be the only thing that matters</quote>It's almost entirely done for tax purposes. The hours I spend on new development count as R&D which my company gets a tax break for, hours I spend on bug fixing or maintenance don't. Not to mention you might have contract workers who get taxed differently. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Poop2 11/12/20 1:21:19 PM #16:	Crono99 posted... Yes, but programmers tend to be introverted. god, this. horrible communication skills <cite>Poop2 posted [p:947081042] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>Crono99 posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, but programmers tend to be introverted.</quote>god, this. horrible communication skills </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shinnokxz 11/12/20 1:24:33 PM #17:	Well, it's not the programmers job to coordinate system or company wide alerts. The programmers were given a job to upgrade / maintenance from management. Wouldn't it be the managers fault for A) not coordinating for such an event and communicating to users and B) not understanding or requiring the details entailed in such a process from the programmers <cite>Shinnokxz posted [p:947081174] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>Well, it's not the programmers job to coordinate system or company wide alerts. The programmers were given a job to upgrade / maintenance from management. Wouldn't it be the managers fault for A) not coordinating for such an event and communicating to users and B) not understanding or requiring the details entailed in such a process from the programmers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
samurai bandit 11/12/20 1:47:24 PM #18:	TIL time punching is still a thing --- Go and watch Ef ~ A tale of memories now! <cite>samurai bandit posted [p:947082002] in Our progra... [t:79104507]...</cite> <quote>TIL time punching is still a thing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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