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Veggeta X
07/17/20 8:56:24 AM
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If you have little to no issue with racist people who has no influence or power then I'd like you to know that you're part of the problem.

This is not to say systematic racism isn't an issue or shouldn't be one of the main focus in our current society(because it should be), this is to say you can't fight for equality if you turn a blind eye on the smaller things. If you think "Oh well it's just racism against an Asian or White person. Who cares about that right now?" then you are part of the problem.

If you want allies from all corners of the world to help you in your time of need then you must help your allies when they need it.

I have at least 7 people on CE tagged who fits this description.

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Guide
07/17/20 8:57:12 AM
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The word you want is systemic, but you're right.

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coh
07/17/20 8:59:10 AM
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Bigotry is an individual issue same with racism
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averagejoel
07/17/20 9:02:48 AM
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if it's not systemic, then it's not racism. lol

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Veggeta X
07/17/20 9:07:57 AM
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averagejoel posted...
if it's not systemic, then it's not racism. lol
Got another one. Who else wants to out themselves?

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coh
07/17/20 9:09:15 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
if it's not systemic, then it's not racism. lol
This is unmitigated bullshit lol
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hockeybub89
07/17/20 9:10:22 AM
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"Blacks have the same opportunity as anyone else. You can't control what individual racists think."

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Veggeta X
07/17/20 9:12:57 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"Blacks have the same opportunity as anyone else. You can't control what individual racists think."
No, Blacks are heavily discriminated against in America and we should work together fixing this but without turning a blind eye at other racism towards other people.

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coh
07/17/20 9:13:04 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"Blacks have the same opportunity as anyone else. You can't control what individual racists think."
Not an inaccurate statement
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averagejoel
07/17/20 9:13:32 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Got another one. Who else wants to out themselves?
bullying is not the same thing as racism dude

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Veggeta X
07/17/20 9:14:36 AM
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averagejoel posted...
bullying is not the same thing as racism dude
Racism is racism and it comes in different awful flavors. It's too bad you can only see it in one way.

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averagejoel
07/17/20 9:17:07 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Racism is racism and it comes in different awful flavors. It's too bad you can only see it in one way.
that doesn't change what I said. bullying is not the same as racism

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Veggeta X
07/17/20 9:19:45 AM
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averagejoel posted...
that doesn't change what I said. bullying is not the same as racism
You can believe whatever you want. I'm just telling you you're undermining the movement.

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Veggeta X
07/17/20 9:23:29 AM
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And bullying shouldn't be tolerated either.

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Guide
07/17/20 9:42:59 AM
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coh posted...
Bigotry is an individual issue same with racism

Do you deny that society is made up of individuals?

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Fony
07/17/20 9:45:04 AM
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Is this a poorly veiled "blacks are the real racists" topic?

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Veggeta X
07/17/20 9:51:19 AM
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Fony posted...
Is this a poorly veiled "blacks are the real racists" topic?
It's not like at all but you thinking it is - is very telling of you.

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Guide
07/17/20 9:51:46 AM
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Fony posted...
Is this a poorly veiled "blacks are the real racists" topic?

TC's never posted anything like that, so I doubt it.

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Guide
07/17/20 9:52:17 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
It's not like at all but you thinking it is - is very telling of you.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume he thinks it is, either.

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IMNOTRAGED
07/17/20 9:53:04 AM
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It's not that it's not a big deal there's just only so much control we, as a society, have over how people behave on an individual level whereas systemic issues can be fixed through legislation

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IMNOTRAGED
07/17/20 9:54:17 AM
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Guide posted...
TC's never posted anything like that, so I doubt it.

He posts stuff like that all the time it's just usually about the Democrats

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Fony
07/17/20 9:56:02 AM
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IMNOTRAGED posted...
It's not that it's not a big deal there's just only so much control we, as a society, have over how people behave on an individual level whereas systemic issues can be fixed through legislation

This...

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Veggeta X
07/17/20 9:57:46 AM
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You have the control to be outspoken about all forms of racism. Selectively choosing what is racist and what is not is the problem. Hope we cleared out any confusion.

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Southernfatman
07/17/20 9:59:36 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
You have the control to be outspoken about all forms of racism.

This. Doesn't take much to call these people out on their bullshit.

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Oh_Boy_
07/17/20 10:01:17 AM
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Confused as to what this topic is getting at?
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R1masher
07/17/20 10:04:11 AM
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Thats where hes heading

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Oh_Boy_
07/17/20 10:05:07 AM
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Am I the only non racist Asian on this board?
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Veggeta X
07/17/20 10:07:48 AM
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Oh_Boy_ posted...
Seems to imply blacks think anti white racism is fine in general?

R1masher posted...
Thats where hes heading
Nope.

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Fony
07/17/20 10:09:44 AM
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It's perfectly fine to judge all black people off of three known crackpot celebrities and a local message board token making people feel comfortable with their generalization of a whole race, didn't you know?

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Veggeta X
07/17/20 10:10:29 AM
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Fony posted...
It's perfectly fine to judge all black people off of three known crackpot celebrities and a local message board token making people feel comfortable with their generalization of a whole race, didn't you know?
No one is doing this and no one is implying this at all ITT. You're outing yourself.

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R1masher
07/17/20 10:12:31 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Nope

dont worry, Im not tagging you

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Oh_Boy_
07/17/20 10:12:54 AM
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What a great rebuttal, I think you got him on the ropes.
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Guide
07/17/20 10:13:35 AM
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@Veggeta_X
I've noticed these guys doing the same deliberate misinterpretation to even the most dedicated liberals of this board, so don't let them get to you.

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Fony
07/17/20 10:13:44 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
No one is doing this and no one is implying this at all ITT. You're outing yourself.

Outing myself as the "real racist" perhaps?

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Questionmarktarius
07/17/20 10:14:06 AM
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Prejudice is meaningless. Discrimination is all that matters.
"Bigotry" is essentially a catch-all term including both.
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Fony
07/17/20 10:15:56 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Prejudice is meaningless. Discrimination is all that matters.
"Bigotry" is essentially a catch-all term including both.

I don't agree, it's all harmful. Sadly for TC, so is implying black people are ok with anti white and Asian bigotry.

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Veggeta X
07/17/20 10:16:43 AM
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Fony posted...
Outing myself as the "real racist" perhaps?
Naw. Selectively racist.

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Veggeta X
07/17/20 10:18:02 AM
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Fony posted...
Sadly for TC, so is implying black people are ok with anti white and Asian bigotry.
It's normal for people who feel victimized to start up a fake fairy tale narrative to make themselves feel justified.

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Oh_Boy_
07/17/20 10:19:31 AM
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TC's mask is starting to slip.
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Veggeta X
07/17/20 10:21:03 AM
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Oh_Boy_ posted...
TC's mask is starting to slip.
Me: Everyone should call out racism from everywhere no matter how big or small
You: YOU'RE THE RACIST!

Outing yourselves. You must be proud.

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Questionmarktarius
07/17/20 10:22:32 AM
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Fony posted...
I don't agree, it's all harmful.
You can't know who's prejudiced until discrimination happens.
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Oh_Boy_
07/17/20 10:23:24 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Me: Everyone should call out racism from everywhere no matter how big or small
You: YOU'RE THE RACIST!

Outing yourselves. You must be proud.
Dude, you made a topic implying black people think racism is ok if its against whites and Asians. Just because you're too chickenshit to word it bluntly doesn't change what you're saying.

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Anteaterking
07/17/20 10:24:32 AM
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Non systemic bigotry is bad, but it's often just used to distract from systemic bigotry or try to equate things with it.


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Southernfatman
07/17/20 10:26:09 AM
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Guide posted...
I've noticed these guys doing the same deliberate misinterpretation to even the most dedicated liberals of this board, so don't let them get to you.

It's nuts and it's disappointing. They just can't accept that the non-majority can be bigoted as well or something and that anyone who calls out such bigotry must be ok with systemic racism and ok with the double standards that right wing media have for their bigots.

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Veggeta X
07/17/20 10:28:22 AM
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@Oh_Boy_ I've already denied your claim. You can believe whatever fairy tale you need to help you sleep at night. This topic is about not calling out all forms of racism from everyone.

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Fony
07/17/20 10:29:07 AM
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Oh_Boy_ posted...
Dude, you made a topic implying black people think racism is ok if its against whites and Asians. Just because you're too chickenshit to word it bluntly doesn't change what you're saying.

As a fellow Asian I am not even the least bit surprised though.

Black people have done far more fighting for other groups rights and safety than the reverse, that's for sure lol.

But Nick Cannon though....he has cancelled it all out.

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R1masher
07/17/20 10:29:50 AM
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Haha, tc tricked you, this was a double veiled topic to catch the real racists, and you fell right into his trap...

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Fony
07/17/20 10:30:35 AM
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R1masher posted...
Haha, tc tricked you, this was a double veiled topic to catch the real racists, and you fell right into his trap...

Dun dun dun!

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Veggeta X
07/17/20 10:31:43 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
It's normal for people who feel victimized to start up a fake fairy tale narrative to make themselves feel justified.


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