Current Events > Isn't marriage kind of a dumb concept?

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Why would you want to be bound to the same person for all eternity? Does anyone seriously believe that the person they married is really their soulmate?

Notice how we humans are the only species on Earth that has a thing like marriage, while most other species practice serial monogamy (i.e. once their kids are all grown up they move on to the next partner whom they have more kids with). I (Butters) blame religion. Religion is clearly a religious institution whether we want it to be or not, and it's no coincidence that not only are we the only species with marriage, but we're also the only species with religion. Hmmmm...

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/tips fedora
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Tell that to some bids.

i.e. You are as wrong about the only species thing

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Alteres posted...

Tell that to some bids.

i.e. You are as wrong about the only species thing

Name another species that has marriages. It would make my year.

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That's your hangup? Religion and the idea of soul mates?

Not that marriage is a legally binding contract that allows the state to involve itself in your personal life?

Mike_Stanton posted...

Name another species that has marriages. It would make my year.

There are many species of bird that perform similar gift-giving rituals and mate for life.

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Scarlet macaw, mute swan, whooping crane, California condor, bald eagle, black vulture, Atlantic puffin, laysan albatross.

More as well.

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this is the most neckbeard thing I've seen on CE in while

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sorry you've never experienced love, tc

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i used to frown down on the idea of a permanent live-in girlfriend rather than getting married but life experience later it makes total sense to me

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Mike_Stanton posted...

Religion is clearly a religious institution whether we want it to be or not

Now this is some philosophical shit

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Isn't marriage kind of a dumb concept?

I dont think so, I think it has its place in society still.

What is a dumb concept is the shit like diamonds and excessive extravagant weddings realistically beyond the couples means/earnings. Nothing wrong with having a fancy wedding but If you are spending the amount of a house down payment or the cost of a brand new car and are average joes........cmon man. That money can be used on the house and not starting your marriage off with financial burdens of a single night.

Also that basic bitch concept of 'the engagement ring should cost 3 months of the dudes annual income' or looking down on a ring that isnt diamond

I'd never get married, seen too many horror stories. We could live as though we were married but I'd never sign on that dotted line.

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I've never thought about this, or heard anyone say anything about this topic, a true original topic found on a dying gaming board, what are the chances.

Nothing really wrong with it but people rush into it then wonder why it's not working a year later. It's only sensible to live with someone for a few years before committing because once that initial lust phase wears off do you truly love them and love being with them? Do you really want to spend the rest of your life with them? It's a massive commitment that I think is approached far too casually.

Also couples need to do what they want to do - not what others think and not what society expects them to do.

I just don't see the point.

It annoys me that I still have people ask me when I'm going to settle down. I've lived with my girlfriend for a decade. We've bought a house together, have pets together, etc. We just aren't married because neither of us really sees any appeal.

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Married sex is more rewarding

The legal act of marriage is kind of convoluted and dumb at this point, but pair bonding seems to be highly encouraged by our genetics. Though at the same time, it seems there is some biological impetus for getting bored and moving on considering all the cheating.

Marriage without a prenup is a scary idea.

Fuck those archaic divorce laws.

Pessimism is a disease.

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coh posted...

Married sex is more rewarding

why?

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All of you not getting married but living together with your partner remember to check to see if your state has common law marriage. If it does find out what it consists of so your not blind sided should you have to give her half your stuff due to common law legality.

If your state does not have common law marriage then do whatever but if there is common law marriage DO NOT LIVE TOGETHER.

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so you have given up searching for a life partner, TC?

anyways, marriage is OK but wedding parties should go.

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coh posted...

Married sex is more rewarding

I guess that 3 or 4 times a year sex matters to you huh when she gives you those pity fucks.

Rather have sex a few times each week so I remain unmarried.

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tax benefits brah.

Tho it is horribly out dated than a guy is still expected to ask his boo's dad permission first.

"Sir, do I have your blessing to fuck your daughter for the rest of my natural life? I know she's full grown and can make these decisions herself, and has already decided to date me for several years, where we've had wonderful freaky pre-marital sex, but I figured I'd loop you in on the action since traditionally you're the one who has to pay for the wedding, sucker."

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

All of you not getting married but living together with your partner remember to check to see if your state has common law marriage. If it does find out what it consists of so your not blind sided should you have to give her half your stuff due to common law legality.

If your state does not have common law marriage then do whatever but if there is common law marriage DO NOT LIVE TOGETHER.

Cohabitation is not dispositive on the issue. CLM requires the couple to hold themselves out as married.

When you start commingling assets and future planning akin to a married couple is when the weight begins to shift the other direction.

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@ThePieReborn
I think some states just have the live together for X number of years though I have not checked recently for places other then my state which thankfully has no CLM laws.

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No, that's a requirement. No state I know of treats it as dispositive on its own.

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@ThePieReborn

Ah ok, its good that is only one part of the requirement, a lot of dudes need to protect themselves though.

No one should be screwed over by not knowing he is CLM in their states eyes and she is entitled to his things.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

All of you not getting married but living together with your partner remember to check to see if your state has common law marriage. If it does find out what it consists of so your not blind sided should you have to give her half your stuff due to common law legality.

If your state does not have common law marriage then do whatever but if there is common law marriage DO NOT LIVE TOGETHER.

Doesn't apply where I live but if it did I'd stand to gain more than I'd lose.

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No other species has marriage, but plenty are lifelong monogamous.

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@IloveJesus

Is she making more money then you ?

Does she have more financial assets then you ?

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It used to be useful in regards to two partners pulling their time and resources together to work, provide, take care of the house and raise their children proper.

But now it's just a bad deal only still relevant becuase its pushed still as a societal norm. And most people naturally what to do the norm, be the norm, and fit in.

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the people understander has logged on

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

Is she making more money then you ?

Slightly

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

Does she have more financial assets then you ?

Very much so

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My girlfriend and I are opposed to it. We have no care for the spiritual or religious aspects, and even the financial benefits are negligible, and could possibly even put us at a disadvantage. My girlfriend doesn't make a lot of money, but she doesn't need a lot to get by, so our plan is for her to put money into her retirement account so she can qualify for either Medicaid or cheap marketplace insurance. If we got married she wouldn't realistically be able to do this.

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@IloveJesus
Then you would be fine other then the issue she might cheat on you since she brings home more money. I dont know why but many women who out earn their male partner have a higher tendency to be unfaithful.

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Don't listen to any of these neckbeards, Jesus.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

@IloveJesus
Then you would be fine other then the issue she might cheat on you since she brings home more money. I dont know why but many women who out earn their male partner have a higher tendency to be unfaithful.

Please stop talking as if you are some sort of authority. You are not.

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Dont be mad at me, I am just the messenger, look up the info for yourself.

@IloveJesus

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i am married to my pain.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

Dont be mad at me, I am just the messenger, look up the info for yourself

I'd rather not get my information about relationships from incel neckbeards on the internet, thanks.

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Mike_Stanton posted...

Religion is clearly a religious institution whether we want it to be or not

Some hot takes here

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There are reputable sites that give this info not just random blogs, the stats and facts are not made by neckbeards.

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Mike_Stanton posted...

Religion is clearly a religious institution whether we want it to be or not

deep

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The purpose of marriage is to encourage a commitment between a man and woman so that they can raise a family and better contribute to society. The woman has someone to support and provide her security to be better able to raise kids successfully. The man has more motivation to contribute to society because he has the responsibility to support someone back at home. The kids, having both parents in the house has a better chance of success in life.

We're in an age where a lot of guys are giving up on society, as evident by the incel population, and on the other extreme end, a growing population of women are hitting their late 30's into 40's while single. This is a growing societal problem that needs to be addressed.

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Sad_Face posted...

The purpose of marriage is to encourage a commitment between a man and woman so that they can raise a family and better contribute to society. The woman has someone to support and provide her security to be better able to raise kids successfully. The man has more motivation to contribute to society because he has the responsibility to support someone back at home. The kids, having both parents in the house has a better chance of success in life.

We're in an age where a lot of guys are giving up on society, as evident by the incel population, and on the other extreme end, a growing population of women are hitting their late 30's into 40's while single. This is a growing societal problem that needs to be addressed.

The majority of men would love to be married if the divorce rates were not so high, and the infidelity stats were not through the roof.

Way to many horror stories of men losing their children, their sanity, and their lives because they got fucked hard in divorce.

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Mike_Stanton posted...

Does anyone seriously believe that the person they married is really their soulmate?

There are people in 30+ year marriages that seem to be going fine. Granted they are not super common.