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DarkRoast
07/03/20 9:30:00 AM
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Like, you have the money to buy whatever you want without worrying that you're being irresponsible, but at the same time you still feel irresponsible if you spend it.

I've saved up a ridiculous amount of money simply because I have basically no bills except for utilities/housing. But I still can't bring myself to buy cool stuff that I've always wanted because it feels irresponsible.

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Garioshi
07/03/20 9:31:39 AM
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Buy a copy of Spud's Adventure

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Master_Bass
07/03/20 9:32:11 AM
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That's OK if you really don't need or want anything. That sort of attitude will help you build wealth now. I suggest investing the money you were paying into debt.

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DarkRoast
07/03/20 9:33:29 AM
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Master_Bass posted...
That's OK if you really don't need or want anything. That sort of attitude will help you build wealth now. I suggest investing the money you were paying into debt.

I thought about it, but I think this is the worst possible time with the stock market artificially propped up. Buying in when it dropped to 18,000 was clutch, although because I was spending most of my money paying off my debt, I wasn't able to get much but I still made a profit.

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Serious Cat
07/03/20 9:37:22 AM
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I started putting most of my money into stocks after I paid off my car.

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Master_Bass
07/03/20 9:39:39 AM
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DarkRoast posted...

I thought about it, but I think this is the worst possible time with the stock market artificially propped up. Buying in when it dropped to 18,000 was clutch, although because I was spending most of my money paying off my debt, I wasn't able to get much but I still made a profit.
Oh yeah, fair enough now. I would just recommend you reevaluate market conditions regularly since most people do better just being in the market than trying to time it. I know some people lost out on a lot of growth over the past decade since people thought stocks were too high and going to crash any minute. I don't blame you hesitating now, though. I would also recommend investing in a total market fund over individual companies.

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Prismsblade
07/03/20 9:53:29 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
I thought about it, but I think this is the worst possible time with the stock market artificially propped up. Buying in when it dropped to 18,000 was clutch, although because I was spending most of my money paying off my debt, I wasn't able to get much but I still made a profit.
If you're investing longterm there really isnt a bad time so long as youre choosing strong, healthy company with further growth potential. Apple, Microsoft, Walmart, Amazon, Disney and Netflix are easy examples off the top of my head.

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Flockaveli
07/03/20 9:57:03 AM
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Buy me something then. No guilt for you.

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Squall28
07/03/20 9:57:41 AM
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I think it's a good habit to keep. I know so many people with high salaries that have nothing left over.

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PIITB415
07/03/20 9:58:35 AM
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Prismsblade posted...
If you're investing longterm there really isnt a bad time so long as youre choosing strong, healthy company with further growth potential. Apple, Microsoft, Walmart, Amazon, Disney and Netflix are easy examples off the top of my head.

This. If you're still decades away from retirement don't worry about it at all. If you're young enough be a bit aggressive and have the majority in something that tracks the S&P 500

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The Trent
07/03/20 9:59:03 AM
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donate money to other healthcare workers in need

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EndOfDiscOne
07/03/20 9:59:28 AM
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Dont try to time the market. Just invest every week, build up a good nest egg and retire early.

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yunalenne10
07/03/20 10:00:59 AM
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How many figures do you have saved up in your bank right now?

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TheGoldenEel
07/03/20 10:01:19 AM
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My fiance and I are the same way

we both just sold our houses at a large profit last year and consolidated into one, neither of us had any college debt anymore, and we both (well, until covid) have well-paying jobs that we didnt have until the past couple years.

so we still live relatively frugally and are building up big savings

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COVxy
07/03/20 10:01:48 AM
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Here's hoping I feel that someday.

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DarkRoast
07/03/20 10:10:52 AM
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PIITB415 posted...
This. If you're still decades away from retirement don't worry about it at all. If you're young enough be a bit aggressive and have the majority in something that tracks the S&P 500

I'm 35, so I can still be aggressive. I'm going to wait a few weeks to see if the stock market starts to tank, which I expect it will.

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DarkRoast
07/03/20 10:12:23 AM
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yunalenne10 posted...
How many figures do you have saved up in your bank right now?

Honestly, I don't believe in boasting. I think there are too many people suffering to boast about how much I've saved up, but I will say it's certainly more than I need to have in a bank account. So I definitely need to find a use for it.

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yunalenne10
07/03/20 10:13:26 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
Honestly, I don't believe in boasting. I think there are too many people suffering to boast about how much I've saved up, but I will say it's certainly more than I need to have in a bank account. So I definitely need to find a use for it.
Very nice. Considering your profession, you've definitely earned it.

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Cleo_II
07/03/20 10:21:29 AM
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Im looking forward to that feeling in 5 months if all goes according to plan/budget. It will be nice after several years of putting a good chunk of money towards paying stuff back.
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DarkRoast
07/03/20 10:23:53 AM
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Cleo_II posted...
Im looking forward to that feeling in 5 months if all goes according to plan/budget. It will be nice after several years of putting a good chunk of money towards paying stuff back.

Hell yeah, just keep at it!

There's a surprisingly large number of "debt is actually good" people out there, but I think the feeling of freedom from it has value itself.

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Son Of Spam
07/03/20 10:27:06 AM
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I will be 38 when my house is paid off in 6 years. Assuming I don't have any other new major expenses by then that's going to be an extra $700 a month in my pocket. I don't make great money, less than 30k, so it's going to be weird essentially being "middle-class" on a low salary.

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-Kush-
07/03/20 10:31:37 AM
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I'm hoping to be mortgage free in 1 or 2 years but will eventually get another mortgage as a rental investment. Besides that I got 15 years of child support. Otherwise my only expense is utilities.

I plan on investing for now. Not interested in fancy interior stuff. I may eventually down the road buy a super car if things work out with real estate investments.


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EndOfDiscOne
07/03/20 10:45:06 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
Hell yeah, just keep at it!

There's a surprisingly large number of "debt is actually good" people out there, but I think the feeling of freedom from it has value itself.
Im one of those people, but I think debt is only good for people who take an active interest in their finances. I look at mine every day, and recently refinanced our mortgage at a low rate. For most people its best to avoid debt.

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-Kush-
07/03/20 11:09:51 AM
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Debt is good if it involves assets. Like if you bought a business or start one and having a loan. Eventually you sell the company for more and either you pay off the loan or the new owner deals with it.

If I buy 2 or 3 homes down the road to rent I don't plan to clear that debt in 20 or 30 years as tenants are paying it down. I'd rather sell the house in like 10 years making a profit and paying off the mortgage. You could gain $100-200K after taxes.

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Solid Snake07
07/03/20 11:11:23 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
I thought about it, but I think this is the worst possible time with the stock market artificially propped up. Buying in when it dropped to 18,000 was clutch, although because I was spending most of my money paying off my debt, I wasn't able to get much but I still made a profit.


There's like a 99% chance you'll fail at timing the market.

Choose a few funds with good records and regularly put money into them. I'd recommend an s&p index, a growth fund, and good international fund for some decent diversification.

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Akagami_Shanks
07/03/20 11:13:02 AM
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honestly being free of debt is kind of overrated, it leads you to become frugal and you don't really let yourself buy what you could and have fun. I notice the biggest sticklers about paying stuff on time have like no luxuries lol

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whitelytning
07/03/20 11:14:53 AM
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Get a boat. Great way to lighten the wallet.

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Annihilated
07/03/20 11:16:17 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
Honestly, I don't believe in boasting. I think there are too many people suffering to boast about how much I've saved up, but I will say it's certainly more than I need to have in a bank account. So I definitely need to find a use for it.

In that case it sounds like a good time to invest. Maybe get a few EFTs or a money market account or set up a Roth IRA or something. Having lots of money in the bank is kind of wasteful.
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SaradaUchihaXXX
07/03/20 11:17:41 AM
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Its he best way to be tbqh

Remember, theres no such thing as good debt either.
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emblem boy
07/03/20 11:18:10 AM
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When I paid off debt, I just started saving a lot and when I spend irresponsibly, I just end up thinking of how much that means I'm not saving/investing.
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BignutzisBack
07/03/20 11:35:18 AM
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Ivynn
07/03/20 11:38:38 AM
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Pay off my car if you don't want to feel weird anymore.

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Annihilated
07/03/20 11:50:28 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
smh at trying to time the market

Yeah when it comes to timing the market, it's like trying to catch a falling knife. The best way to go is to average the market, by budgeting a fixed amount of money every month or quarter or whatever period of time is appropriate for you, and keep buying shares with that sum. Over time the money you invest will even out with the highs and lows canceling out.
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DarkRoast
07/03/20 11:59:02 AM
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Annihilated posted...
Yeah when it comes to timing the market, it's like trying to catch a falling knife. The best way to go is to average the market, by budgeting a fixed amount of money every month or quarter or whatever period of time is appropriate for you, and keep buying shares with that sum. Over time the money you invest will even out with the highs and lows canceling out.

I don't think there is ever been a time in the history of the market like this, in which the value of the market so grossly exceeds the employment situation and profits of individual businesses that are going bankrupt en masse.

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emblem boy
07/03/20 12:02:15 PM
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Stonks go up. All you need to know
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Simon_Petrikov
07/03/20 12:04:12 PM
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Im almost there. Maybe a few more student loan payments. But who knows how long that will last.

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KamenRiderBlade
07/03/20 1:42:22 PM
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What about owning your own house & land?

Buying a empty plot of land, and building a house to your exact specification using the methods & materials you want could be very rewarding.

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Arcanine2009
07/03/20 1:42:54 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Like, you have the money to buy whatever you want without worrying that you're being irresponsible, but at the same time you still feel irresponsible if you spend it.

I've saved up a ridiculous amount of money simply because I have basically no bills except for utilities/housing. But I still can't bring myself to buy cool stuff that I've always wanted because it feels irresponsible.
You still got bills to pay though, just remember that.

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BignutzisBack
07/03/20 2:22:46 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
I don't think there is ever been a time in the history of the market like this, in which the value of the market so grossly exceeds the employment situation and profits of individual businesses that are going bankrupt en masse.

sounds like it's time for you to join r/wallstreetbets

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emblem boy
07/03/20 2:35:35 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
DarkRoast posted...
I don't think there is ever been a time in the history of the market like this, in which the value of the market so grossly exceeds the employment situation and profits of individual businesses that are going bankrupt en masse.

sounds like it's time for you to join r/wallstreetbets


She can start losing money like the rest of us.
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1337toothbrush
07/03/20 2:40:11 PM
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Congratulations on being debt free! Don't kick the habit of frugality too hard, gotta save for retirement! I'm aiming for an early retirement.

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Annihilated
07/03/20 3:21:43 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
I don't think there is ever been a time in the history of the market like this, in which the value of the market so grossly exceeds the employment situation and profits of individual businesses that are going bankrupt en masse.

Do you know about value investing? Or at least the price-earnings ratio of a company?
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Guerrilla Soldier
07/03/20 3:22:23 PM
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avoid addictions

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-Kush-
07/03/20 5:14:46 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Congratulations on being debt free! Don't kick the habit of frugality too hard, gotta save for retirement! I'm aiming for an early retirement.

This. Nothing wrong with being frugal.

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Solid Snake07
07/03/20 8:11:39 PM
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That feeling is called freedom

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pepper2012
07/03/20 8:22:12 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Honestly, I don't believe in boasting. I think there are too many people suffering to boast about how much I've saved up, but I will say it's certainly more than I need to have in a bank account. So I definitely need to find a use for it.

As always, buy land. Not buildings or real estate - buy land.

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yunalenne10
07/03/20 8:57:06 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
That feeling is called freedom
Boy oh boy, the price of freedom is steep.

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Solid Snake07
07/03/20 9:33:15 PM
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yunalenne10 posted...
Boy oh boy, the price of freedom is steep.


Living your life in debt makes it a whole hell of a lot more expensive than not. Sad that so many people seem to not know that.

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Cleo_II
07/03/20 10:02:13 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Hell yeah, just keep at it!

There's a surprisingly large number of "debt is actually good" people out there, but I think the feeling of freedom from it has value itself.
Yeah were definitely not one of those. Weve always had minimal debt. We took a substantial loan from my uncle to help buy a house with a 3 year payment plan. We should have paid it off by now or so. But my husband lost his job somewhere between that and took six months to find a new one. So that delayed things but it will be a huge weight off our shoulders once were done. At least it went towards equity in our home.
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