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DevsBro
07/15/20 12:14:57 AM
#202:


Nope, Watcher is definitely unplayably bad. Why does she have such dang bad defensive options? Or is it more like enemies deal more damage? I dunno, all I know is simple little enemies will damn near kill me just because I can't keep up on blocking.

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PMarth2002
07/15/20 12:27:51 AM
#203:


DevsBro posted...
Nope, Watcher is definitely unplayably bad. Why does she have such dang bad defensive options? Or is it more like enemies deal more damage? I dunno, all I know is simple little enemies will damn near kill me just because I can't keep up on blocking.

Protect, talk to the hand, wave of the hand, wallop, halt, deceive reality, like water are all good to great imo. Plus watcher is just really good at outputting damage and eliminating low/mid HP targets in wrath stance, just don't end in wrath stance if you can avoid it or can't tank it.

Protect is 12 points of block whenever you need it.
Deceive reality is basically protect's slightly awkward cousin.
Talk to the hand is worth an upgrade imo, getting +3 block each time you hit that hit enemy for the rest of the battle gives you a shit ton of block over the course of a fight for 1 energy.
wave of the hand is the best source of weak in the game.
Wallop and halt are worth a ton of block in wrath stance, and wallop also does damage.
Calm stance is a better metalicize if you end in calm stance, which you generally want to do anyway since divinity doesn't stick around and staying in wrath stance will get you killed.

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kirbymuncher
07/15/20 10:42:25 AM
#204:


DevsBro posted...
Or is it more like enemies deal more damage? I dunno, all I know is simple little enemies will damn near kill me just because I can't keep up on blocking.
Are you ending turns and trying to block damage in wrath stance? It makes you deal double damage (which is great) but also makes you take double damage, so if you're gonna leave some enemies that are attacking still alive you better be prepared to eat a big hit. fortunately most enemies tend to not attack every single turn which gives you some chance to end in wrath stance without getting blasted for it. alternatively, if you kill everything, the fight ends and they can't hit you back

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
07/15/20 12:13:18 PM
#205:


I just can't get a decent run going with the Defect. I find it is really inconsistent for me.

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DevsBro
07/15/20 12:15:06 PM
#206:


kirbymuncher posted...
Are you ending turns and trying to block damage in wrath stance? It makes you deal double damage (which is great) but also makes you take double damage, so if you're gonna leave some enemies that are attacking still alive you better be prepared to eat a big hit. fortunately most enemies tend to not attack every single turn which gives you some chance to end in wrath stance without getting blasted for it. alternatively, if you kill everything, the fight ends and they can't hit you back
I've gotten stuck in wrath a time or two but that's generally not the problem.

Generally the problem is one enemy is gonna deal 11 damage, another is gonna deal 16, and I've got one or two defend cards in my hand and that's it.

Coupled with insultingly bad defensive options like whatever that coin one is that deals like 1 damage and gains like 2 block, are you kidding me.

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kirbymuncher
07/15/20 12:51:33 PM
#207:


ok yeah that card is kinda lame. but watcher does have good defensive cards too, like that list up there. plus I'd add to it third eye and the power that gives block on scry. also vault which is the best block card in the game

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EnragedSlith
07/15/20 1:50:06 PM
#208:


Oooh lifecoach is practicing with Ironclad

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Garioshi
07/16/20 10:53:46 AM
#209:


Started fucking with mods. Hermit is a very cool character.

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Drpooplol
07/16/20 4:06:41 PM
#210:


DevsBro posted...
I've gotten stuck in wrath a time or two but that's generally not the problem.

Generally the problem is one enemy is gonna deal 11 damage, another is gonna deal 16, and I've got one or two defend cards in my hand and that's it.

Coupled with insultingly bad defensive options like whatever that coin one is that deals like 1 damage and gains like 2 block, are you kidding me.
Wallop is one of the best block cards the Watcher has. Do you take that?

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DevsBro
07/16/20 4:29:58 PM
#211:


Drpooplol posted...
Wallop is one of the best block cards the Watcher has. Do you take that?
I did on my most recent run, first time I remember seeing it.

I actually got to the heart, thanks to two of those and two of the one that does the power where you just keep getting more and more energy every turn.

Super bonus points if you go wrath, destroy all the enemy's block, use wallop, then enter calm.

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DevsBro
07/16/20 10:57:17 PM
#212:


So after getting my first act 3 victory as on my 4th run as The Silent, I got my first act 4 victory AND my first A1 victory on my 5th run as The Silent.

The Silent is downright broken.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
07/17/20 2:48:14 AM
#213:


I lost before the boss in Act 4. Had I found 2 more damage somewhere I would have lived to see the boss battle.

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IronTusk
07/17/20 4:47:50 AM
#214:


DevsBro posted...
So after getting my first act 3 victory as on my 4th run as The Silent, I got my first act 4 victory AND my first A1 victory on my 5th run as The Silent.

The Silent is downright broken.

Congrats!

Silent rules at lower Ascensions (shivs are fun as hell) but the issue is that when playing A20 the only strats really viable for her are poison stacking and lucking into intangible through wraithform + apparition. She was my favorite character by far up until around A11 and then other characters lap her. It's a shame. While select cards like Wraith Form, Corpse Explosion, and Catalyst are unbelievable, she just has an overwhelming number of terrible cards at higher levels so she's inconsistent.

And the devs made it worse by adding a mana cost to Well-Laid Plans. :(

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DevsBro
07/17/20 8:09:29 AM
#215:


IronTusk posted...
Congrats!

Silent rules at lower Ascensions (shivs are fun as hell) but the issue is that when playing A20 the only strats really viable for her are poison stacking and lucking into intangible through wraithform + apparition. She was my favorite character by far up until around A11 and then other characters lap her. It's a shame. While select cards like Wraith Form, Corpse Explosion, and Catalyst are unbelievable, she just has an overwhelming number of terrible cards at higher levels so she's inconsistent.

And the devs made it worse by adding a mana cost to Well-Laid Plans. :(
Yeah, I picked up Wraith Form thinking it was going to apply intangible every turn (I knew it was too good to be true but I had to at least try it), then when I discovered the way it actually works, I was severely disappointed and decided to remove it next chance I got.

Then I happened to draw it when I was facing a huge attack I couldn't fully block, with near certainty of victory in a couple of turns and I was like weeeeeeell.... Then it proceeded to get me through like half of act 3 and all of act 4, lmao.

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kirbymuncher
07/17/20 11:06:51 AM
#216:


Yeah, wraith form is super good, you just have to be a little careful about playing it in longer fights. unless you have more than one of course, they go extremely well in pairs

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IronTusk
07/17/20 11:30:28 AM
#217:


Nightmare + Wraith Form + Snecko Eye + Well-laid Plans is the ultra rare dream run when you just win. Like Corruption + Dead Branch.

When you get Wraith Form, absolutely seek out Orange Pellets. It will cleanse the dex debuff.
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Garioshi
07/18/20 6:43:03 PM
#218:



this is a good run lmao
(only mod I used was Slay-I because I was curious)

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IronTusk
07/18/20 9:23:00 PM
#219:


Ooh nice, is that Brimstone + Limit Break+ for the strength scaling? Great synergy there. Also Toy Ornithopter + potion belt is great. Hope you landed on a nice energy relic after this fight.
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Garioshi
07/18/20 9:28:17 PM
#220:


IronTusk posted...
Ooh nice, is that Brimstone + Limit Break+ for the strength scaling? Great synergy there. Also Toy Ornithopter + potion belt is great. Hope you landed on a nice energy relic after this fight.
Nope, but I still steamrolled everything. 2 Limit Break+es that are always live are a red carpet to victory.

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Garioshi
07/19/20 4:19:32 PM
#221:


Cleared Ironclad A12 as well!


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Garioshi
07/19/20 8:44:19 PM
#222:


Cleared Watcher A5 because I finally decided to pick up Fasting lmao

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
07/21/20 2:52:03 AM
#223:


Cleared Act 4 for the first time. Did it in A2 as Silent.

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Garioshi
07/22/20 8:41:19 PM
#224:


Cleared Watcher A6, Defect A8, and Ironclad A13!

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Stalolin
07/23/20 5:16:47 AM
#225:


I still havent done a single ascension.
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PMarth2002
07/23/20 10:06:34 AM
#226:


Interesting to see you guys approach the game differently. I beat each ascension level with each character, before moving onto the next one, with the exception of watcher who wasn't in the game when I beat A20 with the other 3.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
07/23/20 7:52:34 PM
#227:


I've been having some trouble beating A2 with anyone. Also, Timekeeper as Act 3 boss can eat balls. Fuck that thing.

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TheEvilMushroom
07/23/20 11:09:00 PM
#228:


Yeah, I have yet to get a win against time keeper. But I'm still figuring things out, so who knows.

I've officially beaten a run on each character after taking some time to figure each one out. Defect took me the longest, with a shit ton of failed runs, but I think I have some ideas now. Watcher had a steep curve at first, but once I realized where the synergies are I got a very easy winning run.

Gonna dig into ascensions tomorrow and start figuring it all out. I'm hoping I can just keep getting better at Defect. Idk why I'm so awful with him.

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Joenage
07/24/20 9:24:11 PM
#229:


Just had my first good Defect run that didn't involve spamming Power cards/lightning - lots of zero-energy cards (3 Claws), the cards that draw zero-energy cards from your draw/discard pile and the 'three attacks gives you one strength' relic was the biggest help for me

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kirbymuncher
07/25/20 1:04:43 AM
#230:


the trick to winning as defect is getting defragment

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Stalolin
07/25/20 4:58:58 AM
#231:


Two wins as Ironclad in a row! This is a huge day for me. Once with a status/exhaust deck and the other with a high energy deck.
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Garioshi
07/25/20 10:34:28 AM
#232:


Ironclad A14 down, got Brimstone and Red Skull as my first 2 relics lmao

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