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DarxWingDuck 06/26/20 9:22:58 AM #1:	I see a lot of people complaining about them, but not many looking to become an officer and make improvements. Personally, I can't imagine actually seeking to become a police officer in this social climate, on top of all the other undesirable situations you sign up to put yourself in on a daily basis. This has got to be one of the least desirable jobs in the country atm. Relative to pay, responsibility, and social climate... is there any job you would want less right now? <cite>DarxWingDuck posted [p:941282643] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>I see a lot of people complaining about them, but not many looking to become an officer and make improvements. Personally, I can't imagine actually seeking to become a police officer in this social climate, on top of all the other undesirable situations you sign up to put yourself in on a daily basis. This has got to be one of the least desirable jobs in the country atm. Relative to pay, responsibility, and social climate... is there any job you would want less right now? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 06/26/20 9:24:27 AM #2:	take a pay cut to do a harder job where you're not really trained to deal with the daily wackiness of criminals AND everyone you encounter hates you? sign me up! --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:941282680] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>take a pay cut to do a harder job where you're not really trained to deal with the daily wackiness of criminals AND everyone you encounter hates you? sign me up! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/26/20 9:26:14 AM #3:	Hasn't there been a surge in recruitment? plenty of people want to be cops, the reforms need to come first though. Good cops cant help s broken system Plus to add to this ,lots of good , intelligent people get rejected by police departments for being too kind or too intelligent --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:941282753] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Hasn't there been a surge in recruitment? plenty of people want to be cops, the reforms need to come first though. Good cops cant help s broken system Plus to add to this ,lots of good , intelligent people get rejected by police departments for being too kind or too intelligent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 06/26/20 9:26:36 AM #4:	UnfairRepresent posted... Hasn't there been a surge in recruitment? plenty of people want to be cops, the reforms need to come first though. Good cops cant help s broken system That sounds unlikely --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:941282766] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Hasn't there been a surge in recruitment? plenty of people want to be cops, the reforms need to come first though. Good cops cant help s broken system</quote> That sounds unlikely </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Austin_Era_II 06/26/20 9:27:02 AM #5:	But I love giving people speeding tickets!!! Bro you went over the limit by 1. Here's your fucking ticket. --- Currently gaming: Metal Gear Solid V MCMLXXXV <cite>Austin_Era_II posted [p:941282786] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>But I love giving people speeding tickets!!! Bro you went over the limit by 1. Here's your fucking ticket. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayerblade11 06/26/20 9:27:23 AM #6:	Ehhh id do if i thought i could make a difference. Being able to make a difference would make the BS worth it <cite>Slayerblade11 posted [p:941282807] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Ehhh id do if i thought i could make a difference. Being able to make a difference would make the BS worth it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarxWingDuck 06/26/20 11:50:30 AM #7:	UnfairRepresent posted... Hasn't there been a surge in recruitment? plenty of people want to be cops, the reforms need to come first though. Good cops cant help s broken system Plus to add to this ,lots of good , intelligent people get rejected by police departments for being too kind or too intelligent I don't have any info claiming a surge in recruitment but it seems logical because there's definitely been a surge in retirement and resignations. <cite>DarxWingDuck posted [p:941288374] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Hasn't there been a surge in recruitment? plenty of people want to be cops, the reforms need to come first though. Good cops cant help s broken system Plus to add to this ,lots of good , intelligent people get rejected by police departments for being too kind or too intelligent</quote> I don't have any info claiming a surge in recruitment but it seems logical because there's definitely been a surge in retirement and resignations. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Politics 06/26/20 11:51:17 AM #8:	My grandfather was trying to get me to become one when I was a senior in college. It was so weird >_> --- (= <cite>Politics posted [p:941288413] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>My grandfather was trying to get me to become one when I was a senior in college. It was so weird >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wii_Shaker 06/26/20 11:52:31 AM #9:	I already currently work in criminal justice. I have an uncle who is a judge and a cousin who graduated from police academy shortly before covid-19 hit. I have no desire to enforce the law outside of my occupational responsibilities. I would never want to be a cop. --- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM <cite>Wii_Shaker posted [p:941288467] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>I already currently work in criminal justice. I have an uncle who is a judge and a cousin who graduated from police academy shortly before covid-19 hit. I have no desire to enforce the law outside of my occupational responsibilities. I would never want to be a cop. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamer167 06/26/20 11:52:39 AM #10:	Id wager at least half of CEmen could not pass the already extremely low physical and mental standards required to be a police officer. Like they wouldnt even make it pass an initial screening. <cite>gamer167 posted [p:941288472] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Id wager at least half of CEmen could not pass the already extremely low physical and mental standards required to be a police officer. Like they wouldnt even make it pass an initial screening.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarxWingDuck 06/26/20 11:53:49 AM #11:	gamer167 posted... Id wager at least half of CEmen could not pass the already extremely low physical and mental standards required to be a police officer. Lol... I laughed but that's so toxic bro. <cite>DarxWingDuck posted [p:941288520] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>gamer167 posted... </cite> <quote>Id wager at least half of CEmen could not pass the already extremely low physical and mental standards required to be a police officer.</quote> Lol... I laughed but that's so toxic bro. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Officer_Pig 06/26/20 11:54:31 AM #12:	Already am one. Will infiltrate and snitch all the bad cops, which are all of them. Pig Out. --- Oink Oink <cite>Officer_Pig posted [p:941288551] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Already am one. Will infiltrate and snitch all the bad cops, which are all of them. Pig Out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 06/26/20 11:54:50 AM #13:	People should sign up for Internal Affairs TBH. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:941288561] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>People should sign up for Internal Affairs TBH. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wii_Shaker 06/26/20 11:55:05 AM #14:	Officer_Pig posted... Already am one. Will infiltrate and snitch all the bad cops, which are all of them. Pig Out. Hey. Fun gimmick. --- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM <cite>Wii_Shaker posted [p:941288577] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Officer_Pig posted... </cite> <quote>Already am one. Will infiltrate and snitch all the bad cops, which are all of them. Pig Out.</quote>Hey. Fun gimmick. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The23rdMagus 06/26/20 11:55:08 AM #15:	Once upon a time I wanted a desk job in a small-town PD. Figured I could do some good behind the scenes. In this climate, knowing what I know now, and especially because said town has a majority Black population...hell no. I'll stick with a job where the boss actually has my back if I break ranks to do the right thing. --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:941288579] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Once upon a time I wanted a desk job in a small-town PD. Figured I could do some good behind the scenes. In this climate, knowing what I know now, and especially because said town has a majority Black population...hell no. I'll stick with a job where the boss actually has my back if I break ranks to do the right thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 06/26/20 11:56:56 AM #16:	Most of them (from what Ive heard) in my town have put in their two weeks notice. <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:941288666] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Most of them (from what Ive heard) in my town have put in their two weeks notice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dj1200 06/26/20 11:57:17 AM #17:	"Not I," said the duck. --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies <cite>dj1200 posted [p:941288684] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>"Not I," said the duck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaradaUchihaXXX 06/26/20 11:58:07 AM #18:	Not unless the pay goes up. Its not worth it to put my life on the life to deal with the dregs of humanity... <cite>SaradaUchihaXXX posted [p:941288715] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Not unless the pay goes up. Its not worth it to put my life on the life to deal with the dregs of humanity... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 06/26/20 11:58:28 AM #19:	Slayerblade11 posted... Ehhh id do if i thought i could make a difference. Being able to make a difference would make the BS worth it Here's something to think about - EVERY new cop feels that way. Within a few years of seeing things and getting burned out, eventually it doesn't matter and its just a paycheck. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:941288730] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Slayerblade11 posted... </cite> <quote>Ehhh id do if i thought i could make a difference. Being able to make a difference would make the BS worth it</quote> Here's something to think about - EVERY new cop feels that way. Within a few years of seeing things and getting burned out, eventually it doesn't matter and its just a paycheck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Super_shadow_x 06/26/20 11:59:26 AM #20:	Gets fired day one cause of skin color lmfao. --- -----{Loading signature - please wait}----- <cite>Super_shadow_x posted [p:941288775] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Gets fired day one cause of skin color lmfao. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anticyclonic 06/26/20 12:01:18 PM #21:	Be a paid thug for the government? Nah lol --- If this signature appears blue, you need to consider not doing whatever it is you're doing. <cite>Anticyclonic posted [p:941288858] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Be a paid thug for the government? Nah lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarxWingDuck 06/26/20 12:01:58 PM #22:	Payzmaykr posted... Most of them (from what Ive heard) in my town have put in their two weeks notice. What town? I find it interesting that most people who think there's a big problem blame it on a broken system that needs reform... but it's cops in the field who are feeling the wrath, fair or foul. I don't think I'd take an inner city police job unless it was enough money to retire after a couple years of work. Even then, I'd have to really meditate on it. <cite>DarxWingDuck posted [p:941288889] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Payzmaykr posted... </cite> <quote>Most of them (from what Ive heard) in my town have put in their two weeks notice.</quote> What town? I find it interesting that most people who think there's a big problem blame it on a broken system that needs reform... but it's cops in the field who are feeling the wrath, fair or foul. I don't think I'd take an inner city police job unless it was enough money to retire after a couple years of work. Even then, I'd have to really meditate on it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 06/26/20 12:02:31 PM #23:	this has to be one of the most stressfull and dangerous jobs out there. i certainly wouldnt wanna take that risk... <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:941288916] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>this has to be one of the most stressfull and dangerous jobs out there. i certainly wouldnt wanna take that risk... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Demon1050 06/26/20 12:03:02 PM #24:	The Trent posted... take a pay cut to do a harder job where you're not really trained to deal with the daily wackiness of criminals AND everyone you encounter hates you? sign me up! plus you have to run a mile in like 7 minutes hell it took me 12 minutes to do a mile as a 10 year old because I had to walk so much...no way in hell am I doing that at 31 years old. <cite>Demon1050 posted [p:941288943] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>The Trent posted...</cite> <quote>take a pay cut to do a harder job where you're not really trained to deal with the daily wackiness of criminals AND everyone you encounter hates you? sign me up! </quote> plus you have to run a mile in like 7 minutes hell it took me 12 minutes to do a mile as a 10 year old because I had to walk so much...no way in hell am I doing that at 31 years old.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 06/26/20 12:07:02 PM #25:	IF ten year old you can beat 31 year old you at any physical contest and you hvent had major illness or injury you need to get some fucking excercise. Thats absurd. Im 37 and id smash any teen or kid me at anything except basketball. --- "I got a rolla truc, look" ~ sleaford mods https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:941289167] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>IF ten year old you can beat 31 year old you at any physical contest and you hvent had major illness or injury you need to get some fucking excercise. Thats absurd. Im 37 and id smash any teen or kid me at anything except basketball. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 06/26/20 12:12:25 PM #26:	DarxWingDuck posted... What town? I find it interesting that most people who think there's a big problem blame it on a broken system that needs reform... but it's cops in the field who are feeling the wrath, fair or foul. I don't think I'd take an inner city police job unless it was enough money to retire after a couple years of work. Even then, I'd have to really meditate on it. Its a smaller town in Colorado thats getting bigger. I dont think its worth the risk because you can get stuck in civil court and have to pay for lawyers to defend yourself every time you arrested someone. <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:941289419] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>DarxWingDuck posted... </cite> <quote>What town? I find it interesting that most people who think there's a big problem blame it on a broken system that needs reform... but it's cops in the field who are feeling the wrath, fair or foul. I don't think I'd take an inner city police job unless it was enough money to retire after a couple years of work. Even then, I'd have to really meditate on it.</quote>Its a smaller town in Colorado thats getting bigger. I dont think its worth the risk because you can get stuck in civil court and have to pay for lawyers to defend yourself every time you arrested someone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The23rdMagus 06/26/20 12:14:01 PM #27:	Payzmaykr posted... Its a smaller town in Colorado thats getting bigger. I dont think its worth the risk because you can get stuck in civil court and have to pay for lawyers to defend yourself every time you arrested someone. If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear. Isn't that the saying? --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:941289499] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Payzmaykr posted... </cite> <quote>Its a smaller town in Colorado thats getting bigger. I dont think its worth the risk because you can get stuck in civil court and have to pay for lawyers to defend yourself every time you arrested someone.</quote>If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear. Isn't that the saying? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarxWingDuck 06/26/20 1:13:05 PM #28:	The23rdMagus posted... If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear. Isn't that the saying? The difference between right and wrong is far from clear atm, especially when people are only looking at races. That case in Atlanta it's the perfect example. Drunk, behind the wheel of a running vehicle, passed out in a wendy's parking lot, cops investigate and attempt to arrest... resists arrest, steals a cop's taser in the scrum, tries to use the taser on the cops, gets shot in the back. Instead of this having the standard "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" response... it's been made into a race issue. Even though there's 0 indication either cop has ever been racist, it's automatically a race thing because skin color is literally the only thing people are seeing right now. <cite>DarxWingDuck posted [p:941292298] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>The23rdMagus posted... </cite> <quote>If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear. Isn't that the saying?</quote> The difference between right and wrong is far from clear atm, especially when people are only looking at races. That case in Atlanta it's the perfect example. Drunk, behind the wheel of a running vehicle, passed out in a wendy's parking lot, cops investigate and attempt to arrest... resists arrest, steals a cop's taser in the scrum, tries to use the taser on the cops, gets shot in the back. Instead of this having the standard "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" response... it's been made into a race issue. Even though there's 0 indication either cop has ever been racist, it's automatically a race thing because skin color is literally the only thing people are seeing right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The23rdMagus 06/26/20 1:14:30 PM #29:	DarxWingDuck posted... Drunk, behind the wheel of a running vehicle, passed out in a wendy's parking lot, cops investigate and attempt to arrest... resists arrest, steals a cop's taser in the scrum, tries to use the taser on the cops, gets shot in the back. In. The. Back. Some threat. --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:941292363] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>DarxWingDuck posted... </cite> <quote>Drunk, behind the wheel of a running vehicle, passed out in a wendy's parking lot, cops investigate and attempt to arrest... resists arrest, steals a cop's taser in the scrum, tries to use the taser on the cops, gets shot in the back.</quote>In. The. Back. Some threat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOrgyPorgy 06/26/20 1:14:56 PM #30:	defund and abolish diaper force ASAP --- Radiohead <cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted [p:941292393] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>defund and abolish diaper force ASAP </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 06/26/20 1:18:06 PM #31:	"If you have a problem with X why dont you become X to help solve the problem!" Has always been and will always be a bad argument You literally cant join every single occupation that you think needs to be reformed, how many careers do you think a single person can have? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:941292545] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>"If you have a problem with X why dont you become X to help solve the problem!" Has always been and will always be a bad argument You literally cant join every single occupation that you think needs to be reformed, how many careers do you think a single person can have?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarxWingDuck 06/26/20 1:19:05 PM #32:	The23rdMagus posted... In. The. Back. Some threat. Possibly fair, doesn't excuse all his actions and violations leading up to that point. It certainly doesn't mean this is a race issue. Im not casting judgement when I don't know what it would be like to be in that officer's shoes in that kind of moment. Charging him with 1st degree murder is insane. <cite>DarxWingDuck posted [p:941292601] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>The23rdMagus posted... </cite> <quote>In. The. Back. Some threat.</quote> Possibly fair, doesn't excuse all his actions and violations leading up to that point. It certainly doesn't mean this is a race issue. Im not casting judgement when I don't know what it would be like to be in that officer's shoes in that kind of moment. Charging him with 1st degree murder is insane. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 06/26/20 1:19:08 PM #33:	DarxWingDuck posted... I see a lot of people complaining about them, but not many looking to become an officer and make improvements. Have you read the stories of literally any ex cop who tried to do exactly this? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:941292603] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>DarxWingDuck posted... </cite> <quote>I see a lot of people complaining about them, but not many looking to become an officer and make improvements.</quote> Have you read the stories of literally any ex cop who tried to do exactly this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The23rdMagus 06/26/20 1:20:17 PM #34:	DarxWingDuck posted... Possibly fair, doesn't excuse all his actions and violations leading up to that point. It certainly doesn't mean this is a race issue. Im not casting judgement when I don't know what it would be like to be in that officer's shoes. Charging him with 1st degree murder is insane. Finally, something we agree on. I doubt it was premeditated; charge with 2nd degree murder. --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:941292660] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>DarxWingDuck posted... </cite> <quote>Possibly fair, doesn't excuse all his actions and violations leading up to that point. It certainly doesn't mean this is a race issue. Im not casting judgement when I don't know what it would be like to be in that officer's shoes. Charging him with 1st degree murder is insane.</quote>Finally, something we agree on. I doubt it was premeditated; charge with 2nd degree murder. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 06/26/20 1:20:38 PM #35:	The23rdMagus posted... If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear. Isn't that the saying? In theory, yes. However, you would still have to pay to hire a lawyer to defend you. Why take a job where youre guaranteed to go broke? <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:941292677] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>The23rdMagus posted... </cite> <quote>If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear. Isn't that the saying?</quote>In theory, yes. However, you would still have to pay to hire a lawyer to defend you. Why take a job where youre guaranteed to go broke? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The23rdMagus 06/26/20 1:22:07 PM #36:	Payzmaykr posted... In theory, yes. However, you would still have to pay to hire a lawyer to defend you. Why take a job where youre guaranteed to go broke? If they really cared about making their community safer, they'd take that risk, don't you think? --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:941292746] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Payzmaykr posted... </cite> <quote>In theory, yes. However, you would still have to pay to hire a lawyer to defend you. Why take a job where youre guaranteed to go broke?</quote>If they really cared about making their community safer, they'd take that risk, don't you think? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarxWingDuck 06/26/20 1:22:23 PM #37:	Tyranthraxus posted... Have you read the stories of literally any ex cop who tried to do exactly this? The people trying to fix things are rarely the same people complaining, as usual. <cite>DarxWingDuck posted [p:941292753] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Have you read the stories of literally any ex cop who tried to do exactly this?</quote> The people trying to fix things are rarely the same people complaining, as usual. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/26/20 1:23:56 PM #38:	There's 40 million unemployed people. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:941292840] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>There's 40 million unemployed people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/26/20 2:22:13 PM #39:	DarxWingDuck posted... The difference between right and wrong is far from clear atm, especially when people are only looking at races. That case in Atlanta it's the perfect example. Drunk, behind the wheel of a running vehicle, passed out in a wendy's parking lot, cops investigate and attempt to arrest... resists arrest, steals a cop's taser in the scrum, tries to use the taser on the cops, gets shot in the back. Instead of this having the standard "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" response... it's been made into a race issue. Even though there's 0 indication either cop has ever been racist, it's automatically a race thing because skin color is literally the only thing people are seeing right now. This is such a bad take that it would be funny if a man hadn't died They shot a gun in the back twice, and the cop who did it admitted he was in no danger its indefensible murder plus Rolfe the officer who did it has a history, he shot another suspect in the leg years before and then didnt write up that he shot him in the police report he's an absolutely incompetent, dangerous murderer . Even if not premeditated he needs to be in prison, not on the force --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:941295450] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>DarxWingDuck posted...</cite> <quote> The difference between right and wrong is far from clear atm, especially when people are only looking at races. That case in Atlanta it's the perfect example. Drunk, behind the wheel of a running vehicle, passed out in a wendy's parking lot, cops investigate and attempt to arrest... resists arrest, steals a cop's taser in the scrum, tries to use the taser on the cops, gets shot in the back. Instead of this having the standard "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" response... it's been made into a race issue. Even though there's 0 indication either cop has ever been racist, it's automatically a race thing because skin color is literally the only thing people are seeing right now. </quote> This is such a bad take that it would be funny if a man hadn't died They shot a gun in the back twice, and the cop who did it admitted he was in no danger its indefensible murder plus Rolfe the officer who did it has a history, he shot another suspect in the leg years before and then didnt write up that he shot him in the police report he's an absolutely incompetent, dangerous murderer . Even if not premeditated he needs to be in prison, not on the force</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 06/26/20 2:26:06 PM #40:	gamer167 posted... Id wager at least half of CEmen could not pass the already extremely low physical and mental standards required to be a police officer. Like they wouldnt even make it pass an initial screening. More than half of CE have no problems with killing thousands of people at a time with no trial. You're being too generous. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:941295618] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>gamer167 posted... </cite> <quote>Id wager at least half of CEmen could not pass the already extremely low physical and mental standards required to be a police officer. Like they wouldnt even make it pass an initial screening.</quote> More than half of CE have no problems with killing thousands of people at a time with no trial. You're being too generous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarxWingDuck 06/26/20 2:29:38 PM #41:	UnfairRepresent posted... This is such a bad take that it would he funny if a man hadn't died They shot a gun in the back twice, and the cop who did it admitted he was in no danger its indefensible murder Speaking of bad takes... That's for a jury to decide. I generally agree the shooting probably shouldn't have happened, but that's a chaotic scenario created purely by criminal... He didn't do himself any favors here is my point, as well as people only making this a big deal because of race... even though there's literally no reason to make this a racial issue, people still do. <cite>DarxWingDuck posted [p:941295777] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>This is such a bad take that it would he funny if a man hadn't died They shot a gun in the back twice, and the cop who did it admitted he was in no danger its indefensible murder</quote> Speaking of bad takes... That's for a jury to decide. I generally agree the shooting probably shouldn't have happened, but that's a chaotic scenario created purely by criminal... He didn't do himself any favors here is my point, as well as people only making this a big deal because of race... even though there's literally no reason to make this a racial issue, people still do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/26/20 2:37:32 PM #42:	DarxWingDuck posted... That's for a jury to decide. I generally agree the shooting probably shouldn't have happened, but that's a chaotic scenario created purely by criminal... I don't think thats true The cops showed a lot of incompetence that led to that scenario DarxWingDuck posted... He didn't do himself any favors here is my point, as well as people only making this a big deal because of race... even though there's literally no reason to make this a racial issue, people still do. In a vacuum you might be right but you do yourself no favors by ignoring the reality of systemic racism and police brutality in the police force that has been around for decades At this point you can't blame the population for raising eyebrows when police are murdering more people in the streets The police murdering a guy should be huge controversial news no matter who it is. You going "well due to the decades of racism people are responding too, less people would care about this murder if the victim was white" isn't the Gotcha you think it is If anything its criticising yourself Especially when you run in and use bizarre loaded YouTube commentesq language to pretend it wasn't murder --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:941296153] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>DarxWingDuck posted...</cite> <quote>That's for a jury to decide. I generally agree the shooting probably shouldn't have happened, but that's a chaotic scenario created purely by criminal...</quote> I don't think thats true The cops showed a lot of incompetence that led to that scenario DarxWingDuck posted...</cite> <quote>He didn't do himself any favors here is my point, as well as people only making this a big deal because of race... even though there's literally no reason to make this a racial issue, people still do.</quote> In a vacuum you might be right but you do yourself no favors by ignoring the reality of systemic racism and police brutality in the police force that has been around for decades At this point you can't blame the population for raising eyebrows when police are murdering more people in the streets The police murdering a guy should be huge controversial news no matter who it is. You going "well due to the decades of racism people are responding too, less people would care about this murder if the victim was white" isn't the Gotcha you think it is If anything its criticising yourself Especially when you run in and use bizarre loaded YouTube commentesq language to pretend it wasn't murder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarxWingDuck 06/26/20 3:07:50 PM #43:	UnfairRepresent posted... I don't think thats true The cops showed a lot of incompetence that led to that scenario In a vacuum you might be right but you do yourself no favors by ignoring the reality of systemic racism and police brutality in the police force that has been around for decades At this point you can't blame the population for raising eyebrows when police are murdering more people in the streets The police murdering a guy should be huge controversial news no matter who it is. You going "well due to the decades of racism people are responding too, less people would care about this murder if the victim was white" isn't the Gotcha you think it is If anything its criticising yourself Especially when you run in and use bizarre loaded YouTube commentesq language to pretend it wasn't murder There's no data that suggests systematic racism in police... please point me to the rules or laws that are forcing this "systematic racism". I'm very interested to see this. Im not ignoring it, I'd like to know what it is without simpletons like yourself giving me only anecdotal evidence. I do agree the story should be huge for what it is, but that's not what's happening and you know it. If not for race, this wouldn't be a national headline. Cut the nonsensical bs claiming im criticizing myself, what a joke. <cite>DarxWingDuck posted [p:941297494] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think thats true The cops showed a lot of incompetence that led to that scenario In a vacuum you might be right but you do yourself no favors by ignoring the reality of systemic racism and police brutality in the police force that has been around for decades At this point you can't blame the population for raising eyebrows when police are murdering more people in the streets The police murdering a guy should be huge controversial news no matter who it is. You going "well due to the decades of racism people are responding too, less people would care about this murder if the victim was white" isn't the Gotcha you think it is If anything its criticising yourself Especially when you run in and use bizarre loaded YouTube commentesq language to pretend it wasn't murder</quote> There's no data that suggests systematic racism in police... please point me to the rules or laws that are forcing this "systematic racism". I'm very interested to see this. Im not ignoring it, I'd like to know what it is without simpletons like yourself giving me only anecdotal evidence. I do agree the story should be huge for what it is, but that's not what's happening and you know it. If not for race, this wouldn't be a national headline. Cut the nonsensical bs claiming im criticizing myself, what a joke. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/26/20 5:27:08 PM #44:	DarxWingDuck posted... There's no data that suggests systematic racism in police... please point me to the rules or laws that are forcing this "systematic racism". I'm very interested to see this. Im not ignoring it, I'd like to know what it is without simpletons like yourself giving me only anecdotal evidence. What are you talking about? Even the police aren't denying that it exists. FBI telling MLK to commit suicide: https://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/12/7204453/martin-luther-king-fbi-letter Richard Nixon admitting the War on Drugs was created as a way to arrest black people: https://www.vox.com/2016/3/22/11278760/war-on-drugs-racism-nixon That war still exists and same is true today: 38% of state prisoners are black (35% are white) https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/color-of-justice-racial-and-ethnic-disparity-in-state-prisons/ In New York Under age 25 Black and Latino people are only 5% of the population, yet they made 38% of stop and frisks. Of any age group, black and Lantinos made up 88% of stops. Something police are only meant to do if they suspected the guys had a weapon yet 98% of the time they did not and 90% of the time they were totally innocent of any crime whatsoever and carrying nothing. Meanwhile white and Asian people were far far more likely to be carrying weapons or ilicit substances because of course they are, they know police are stopping black and hispanic guys so if you're muling drugs you do it via white guys. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/nyclu-releases-report-analyzing-nypd-stop-and-frisk-data https://www.nyclu.org/en/Stop-and-Frisk-data https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 3 per 100,000 of the population as of June 2020. Meanwhile cops are punished for not arresting enough black guys: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/06/nyregion/nyc-police-subway-racial-profiling.html Black men are sentenced to 20% longer sentences for the same crimes as whites: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/16/black-men-sentenced-to-more-time-for-committing-the-exact-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/ And they are 80% more likely to go prison for a crime than a white guy. https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/ Prisons which then threaten and punish the state/government to give them prisoners so they can make profit. So there is a system of Cops rack up arrests = good for cops and politicians stats, prosecutors rack up convictions = good for their career record, private prisons fill up = they make money. Businsess not justice. https://www.salon.com/2017/08/04/private-prison-demands-new-mexico-and-feds-find-300-more-prisoners-in-60-days-or-it-will-close_partner/ Cops are fired for stopping other cops from murdering handcuffed black guys: https://www.nbcboston.com/lx/a-former-buffalo-cop-fired-after-stopping-a-chokehold-is-fighting-for-police-accountability/2149556/ Cops not being hired for being too intelligent: https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-court-ruled-you-can-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/5420630 And on top of that, ignoring race entirely and just focusing on police Brutality. Let's look at overall killing of Citizens by police force per Capita As a baseline, in the US, cops kill 46.6 per 10 million. How do the countries with similar numbers compare? Democratic Republic of the Congo: 47.8 Iraq: 45.1 Nigeria: 44.0 Kenya: 43.5 Well that's weird, those aren't typically the countries you see associated with America. Let's check in on Europe Germany: 1.3 (2018) France: 3.8 (2018) U.K.: 0.5 (2018) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country Almost 100 times the rate of the UK... That's insane. And these are all just the tip of the iceberg. This kind of stuff is well known and all over the place. It's been reported and discussed and debated for decades. I refuse to believe that you in good faith are simutaniously claiming that you've never heard any of this before AND also saying you reject all anecdotal evidence. What possible evidence is there that would convince you? That's called burying your head in the sand. I do agree the story should be huge for what it is, but that's not what's happening and you know it. If not for race, this wouldn't be a national headline. If you say so In light of the recent protests and examination of police brutality, I think cops murdering civilians would be big news right now regardless of race. See that old man they threw to the ground. He was white and huge news. You might be right that in a vacuum outside of the recent protests, people may have ignored the story and just said incredibly stupid things like "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" to a murder victim, but that's a bad thing. Not something you should be praising. Cut the nonsensical bs claiming im criticizing myself, what a joke. You really are. You're arguing the story should be huge at the same time you're complaining that the story has traction and denying it was murder just because the victim is the wrong skin. Your gotcha is completely misplaced. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:941304140] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>DarxWingDuck posted...</cite> <quote> There's no data that suggests systematic racism in police... please point me to the rules or laws that are forcing this "systematic racism". I'm very interested to see this. Im not ignoring it, I'd like to know what it is without simpletons like yourself giving me only anecdotal evidence.</quote> What are you talking about? Even the police aren't denying that it exists. FBI telling MLK to commit suicide: https://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/12/7204453/martin-luther-king-fbi-letter Richard Nixon admitting the War on Drugs was created as a way to arrest black people: https://www.vox.com/2016/3/22/11278760/war-on-drugs-racism-nixon That war still exists and same is true today: 38% of state prisoners are black (35% are white) https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/color-of-justice-racial-and-ethnic-disparity-in-state-prisons/ In New York Under age 25 Black and Latino people are only 5% of the population, yet they made 38% of stop and frisks. Of any age group, black and Lantinos made up 88% of stops. Something police are only meant to do if they suspected the guys had a weapon yet 98% of the time they did not and 90% of the time they were totally innocent of any crime whatsoever and carrying nothing. Meanwhile white and Asian people were far far more likely to be carrying weapons or ilicit substances because of course they are, they know police are stopping black and hispanic guys so if you're muling drugs you do it via white guys. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/nyclu-releases-report-analyzing-nypd-stop-and-frisk-data https://www.nyclu.org/en/Stop-and-Frisk-data https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 3 per 100,000 of the population as of June 2020. Meanwhile cops are punished for not arresting enough black guys: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/06/nyregion/nyc-police-subway-racial-profiling.html Black men are sentenced to 20% longer sentences for the same crimes as whites: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/16/black-men-sentenced-to-more-time-for-committing-the-exact-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/ And they are 80% more likely to go prison for a crime than a white guy. https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/ Prisons which then threaten and punish the state/government to give them prisoners so they can make profit. So there is a system of Cops rack up arrests = good for cops and politicians stats, prosecutors rack up convictions = good for their career record, private prisons fill up = they make money. Businsess not justice. https://www.salon.com/2017/08/04/private-prison-demands-new-mexico-and-feds-find-300-more-prisoners-in-60-days-or-it-will-close_partner/ Cops are fired for stopping other cops from murdering handcuffed black guys: https://www.nbcboston.com/lx/a-former-buffalo-cop-fired-after-stopping-a-chokehold-is-fighting-for-police-accountability/2149556/ Cops not being hired for being too intelligent: https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-court-ruled-you-can-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/5420630 And on top of that, ignoring race entirely and just focusing on police Brutality. Let's look at overall killing of Citizens by police force per Capita As a baseline, in the US, cops kill 46.6 per 10 million. How do the countries with similar numbers compare? Democratic Republic of the Congo: 47.8 Iraq: 45.1 Nigeria: 44.0 Kenya: 43.5 Well that's weird, those aren't typically the countries you see associated with America. Let's check in on Europe Germany: 1.3 (2018) France: 3.8 (2018) U.K.: 0.5 (2018) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country Almost 100 times the rate of the UK... That's insane. And these are all just the tip of the iceberg. This kind of stuff is well known and all over the place. It's been reported and discussed and debated for decades. I refuse to believe that you in good faith are simutaniously claiming that you've never heard any of this before AND also saying you reject all anecdotal evidence. What possible evidence is there that would convince you? That's called burying your head in the sand. <quote> I do agree the story should be huge for what it is, but that's not what's happening and you know it. If not for race, this wouldn't be a national headline.</quote> If you say so In light of the recent protests and examination of police brutality, I think cops murdering civilians would be big news right now regardless of race. See that old man they threw to the ground. He was white and huge news. You might be right that in a vacuum outside of the recent protests, people may have ignored the story and just said incredibly stupid things like "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" to a murder victim, but that's a bad thing. Not something you should be praising. <quote>Cut the nonsensical bs claiming im criticizing myself, what a joke. </quote> You really are. You're arguing the story should be huge at the same time you're complaining that the story has traction and denying it was murder just because the victim is the wrong skin. Your gotcha is completely misplaced.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/27/20 6:09:59 PM #45:	And he was never seen again --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:941352806] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>And he was never seen again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 06/27/20 6:33:02 PM #46:	UnfairRepresent posted... And on top of that, ignoring race entirely and just focusing on police Brutality. Let's look at overall killing of Citizens by police force per Capita As a baseline, in the US, cops kill 46.6 per 10 million. How do the countries with similar numbers compare? Democratic Republic of the Congo: 47.8 Iraq: 45.1 Nigeria: 44.0 Kenya: 43.5 Well that's weird, those aren't typically the countries you see associated with America. Let's check in on Europe Germany: 1.3 (2018) France: 3.8 (2018) U.K.: 0.5 (2018) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country Almost 100 times the rate of the UK... That's insane. My man --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:941353700] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>And on top of that, ignoring race entirely and just focusing on police Brutality. Let's look at overall killing of Citizens by police force per Capita As a baseline, in the US, cops kill 46.6 per 10 million. How do the countries with similar numbers compare? Democratic Republic of the Congo: 47.8 Iraq: 45.1 Nigeria: 44.0 Kenya: 43.5 Well that's weird, those aren't typically the countries you see associated with America. Let's check in on Europe Germany: 1.3 (2018) France: 3.8 (2018) U.K.: 0.5 (2018) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country Almost 100 times the rate of the UK... That's insane.</quote> My man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarxWingDuck 06/27/20 6:33:31 PM #47:	UnfairRepresent posted... And he was never seen again Anecdote after anecdote after anecdote, poorly sourced arguments with no context. Im not arguing with you dude. There's no discussion to be had here... I'm not spending hours typing out rebuttals and counter data. Im content to leave you in ignorance. There is no "gotcha" in my argument and thus your explanation thereof makes 0 sense. Thanks for stopping by, have a good one. <cite>DarxWingDuck posted [p:941353725] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>And he was never seen again</quote> Anecdote after anecdote after anecdote, poorly sourced arguments with no context. Im not arguing with you dude. There's no discussion to be had here... I'm not spending hours typing out rebuttals and counter data. Im content to leave you in ignorance. There is no "gotcha" in my argument and thus your explanation thereof makes 0 sense. Thanks for stopping by, have a good one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 06/27/20 6:33:38 PM #48:	good people who become cops are forced out and fucked over real bad. --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:941353733] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>good people who become cops are forced out and fucked over real bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 06/27/20 6:35:01 PM #49:	I wannabe a library cop --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:941353793] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>I wannabe a library cop </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/27/20 6:36:55 PM #50:	DarxWingDuck posted... Anecdote after anecdote after anecdote, The vast majority of those weren't anecdotes. They were cold hard facts. DarxWingDuck posted... Im not arguing with you dude. There's no discussion to be had here... I'm not spending hours typing out rebuttals and counter data. Im content to leave you in ignorance. The hypocrisy of this is incredible. You deny facts, claim there is no data then when presented with facts and data run away and call others ignorant. DarxWingDuck posted... There is no "gotcha" in my argument I agree But you tried one and it backfired massively because it destroyed your own point --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:941353865] in So, who wa... [t:78804322]...</cite> <quote>DarxWingDuck posted...</cite> <quote> Anecdote after anecdote after anecdote,</quote> The vast majority of those weren't anecdotes. They were cold hard facts. DarxWingDuck posted...</cite> <quote> Im not arguing with you dude. There's no discussion to be had here... I'm not spending hours typing out rebuttals and counter data. Im content to leave you in ignorance. </quote> The hypocrisy of this is incredible. You deny facts, claim there is no data then when presented with facts and data run away and call others ignorant. DarxWingDuck posted...</cite> <quote> There is no "gotcha" in my argument </quote> I agree But you tried one and it backfired massively because it destroyed your own point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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