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gna647
06/19/20 10:46:08 PM
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Seems horribly worse than the PS5

not to mention they dont have any worth while exclusives

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King Rial
06/20/20 12:15:50 AM
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I was under the impression that the PS5 has worse specs than the XSX in practically every way.
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FortuneCookie
06/20/20 12:17:33 AM
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Do a side by side comparison of vidya girl boobies.

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Tyranthraxus
06/20/20 12:19:39 AM
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King Rial posted...
I was under the impression that the PS5 has worse specs than the XSX in practically every way.
Not only is every single spec better, it's somehow also smaller in size despite being big enough that people were calling it a fridge.

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CommunismFTW
06/20/20 12:19:40 AM
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King Rial posted...
I was under the impression that the PS5 has worse specs than the XSX in practically every way.

They are both AMD CPU's, most likely the same exact one, and the same RDNA2 GPU from the same company -- AMD again.

The only difference will be coming down to OS/ease of use/SSD performance and in Sony's case, if their new architecture for their SSD lives up to the hype.

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Tyranthraxus
06/20/20 12:20:25 AM
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CommunismFTW posted...
in Sony's case, if their new architecture for their SSD lives up to the hype.
Narrator: it won't

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VigorouslySwish
06/20/20 12:21:50 AM
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speed may very well trump slightly better graphics this gen

also PS2 destroyed Xbox and gamecube and it was noticeably less powerful than both


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DarthAragorn
06/20/20 12:23:33 AM
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but the xbox has better specs in every way but the SSD (but it still has an SSD so it's probably not even that different there)
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CommunismFTW
06/20/20 12:24:36 AM
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VigorouslySwish posted...
speed may very well trump slightly better graphics this gen

also PS2 destroyed Xbox and gamecube and it was noticeably less powerful than both

but again, different generations had different hardware companies betting on those contracts against each other. e.g: ps3 was nvidia, 360 was ATi, sony made their own for the Ps2 (with help), gamecube used a very advanced ATi chip at the time, so on and so forth.

this generation is a cpu/gpu battle of AMDxAMD vs AMDxAMD. who really cares, there isn't a "better in every way" here for either console. they fundamentally use different forks of the same shit. this generation is pitting SSD vs SSD and that's really the only fireworks to look out for besides for software/game design side of things.

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Mc Poottie
06/20/20 12:28:35 AM
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Playing those specs will bring me hours of enjoyment!

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King Rial
06/20/20 12:29:16 AM
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CommunismFTW posted...
They are both AMD CPU's, most likely the same exact one, and the same RDNA2 GPU from the same company -- AMD again.

The Base PS4 and Xbox One both used AMD as well, but that isn't the be all end all. The actual specs matter. A higher clock speed, more GPU CU, etc...
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Tyranthraxus
06/20/20 12:30:53 AM
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CommunismFTW posted...
but again, different generations had different hardware companies betting on those contracts against each other. e.g: ps3 was nvidia, 360 was ATi, sony made their own for the Ps2 (with help), gamecube used a very advanced ATi chip at the time, so on and so forth.

this generation is a cpu/gpu battle of AMDxAMD vs AMDxAMD. who really cares, there isn't a "better in every way" here for either console. they fundamentally use different forks of the same shit. this generation is pitting SSD vs SSD and that's really the only fireworks to look out for besides for software/game design side of things.
The XSX GPU benchmarks better and don't believe Sony's fucking bullshit about their SSD. They are pathological liars.

But all that shit is irrelevant anyway.

At the end of the day, Xbox got game pass ultimate + xcloud and full bc with the X1. Sony only got partial BC and nothing to compete with Game Pass Ultimate + xCloud.

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viewmaster_pi
06/20/20 12:41:57 AM
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I play on Xbox and won't ever switch to PS5, (Ghost of Tsushima looks cool but that's it) I really do wish they'd branch out and start acquiring more diverse studios for exclusives. Every Xbox exclusive is an absolute bore, it's insane.

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Mezcla
06/20/20 12:45:35 AM
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That's why they're smart for having nearly every Xbox release also on PC. I'll never buy an Xbox, but I have a gaming PC. Boom, I'm an Xbox potential customer

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DarthAragorn
06/20/20 12:49:26 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
I play on Xbox and won't ever switch to PS5, (Ghost of Tsushima looks cool but that's it) I really do wish they'd branch out and start acquiring more diverse studios for exclusives. Every Xbox exclusive is an absolute bore, it's insane.
that's what MS has done in the last year or two, they acquired Obsidian, Ninja Theory, Double Fine, I think the Wasteland devs

all of those are a bit more diverse than just shooters and racing games historically, and I think MS knows enough to keep it that way

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One_Day_Remains
06/20/20 12:50:57 AM
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Xbox killed itself when it put all its games on PC
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Tyranthraxus
06/20/20 12:53:02 AM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
Xbox killed itself when it put all its games on PC

Lmao what a joke. They are making money hand over fist with Game Pass Ultimate.

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viewmaster_pi
06/20/20 12:53:34 AM
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It just seems like every year they say "oh we got new studios, just wait for the games"

and then the games never come, or the games that do come out with a trickle are either multiplat anyway, or just not good, like Bleeding Edge, No Man's Sea, and that Honey, I Shrunk the Kids game. And probably that sequel to whatever Ninja Theory's game was called.

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MabusIncarnate
06/20/20 12:54:50 AM
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Yes, Microsoft will go bankrupt and it will all end for them. Microsoft.

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Tyranthraxus
06/20/20 12:56:33 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
It just seems like every year they say "oh we got new studios, just wait for the games"

Don't think they've ever really said that. They bought the dev team that made gears and put out like 4 different games since. They bought Mojang and have made 2 new Minecraft games since as well as tons of updates to regular Minecraft. They haven't had a mass purchasing spree like they did last year.

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008Zulu
06/20/20 12:57:13 AM
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CommunismFTW posted...
if their new architecture for their SSD lives up to the hype.
It is likely that it will, for console exclusives and first party titles. Multiplatform won't have access to the same SSD's that the PS5 will use, so it is unlikely that any third party developers will put the extra effort in.

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Tyranthraxus
06/20/20 12:58:55 AM
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008Zulu posted...
It is likely that it will, for console exclusives and first party titles. Multiplatform won't have access to the same SSD's that the PS5 will use, so it is unlikely that any third party developers will put the extra effort in.
Lmao what? Are 3rd party games going to install on the ether or some shit?

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Mezcla
06/20/20 12:59:54 AM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
Xbox killed itself when it put all its games on PC
Bro what did I JUST say

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DarthAragorn
06/20/20 1:05:33 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Lmao what? Are 3rd party games going to install on the ether or some shit?
I think he's saying that third party games will utilize SSD speeds but won't see much or any benefit on PS5 vs XSX or PC
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BigG777
06/20/20 1:14:28 AM
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Id be tempted to get it if it actually did double as a mini fridge. A console that keeps my drink cold....... hell yeah.
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One_Day_Remains
06/20/20 1:15:36 AM
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Mezcla posted...

Bro what did I JUST say


"I'll never buy an Xbox"

That's what you just said. Certainly proved me wrong with that one
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Foppe
06/20/20 1:16:35 AM
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King Rial posted...
I was under the impression that the PS5 has worse specs than the XSX in practically every way.
Better hardware only counts when Sony got it.

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KStateKing17
06/20/20 1:18:27 AM
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BigG777 posted...
Id be tempted to get it if it actually did double as a mini fridge. A console that keeps my drink cold....... hell yeah.
Sounds like an electrical fire waiting to happen

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SoundNetwork
06/20/20 1:19:18 AM
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how does microsoft even make money off game pass tho

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Darmik
06/20/20 1:19:50 AM
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The PS5 SSD will probably make some parts of development easier for developers but I doubt the end result will be noticeable for gamers. Majority of games will look or perform slightly better on the XSX.

One_Day_Remains posted...
"I'll never buy an Xbox"

That's what you just said. Certainly proved me wrong with that one

You don't need to buy an Xbox to play Xbox games.

You won't need to buy a PS5 to play PS5 games either.

Welcome to the future.

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Tyranthraxus
06/20/20 1:19:59 AM
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SoundNetwork posted...
how does microsoft even make money off game pass tho

$20 a month. That's like asking how Netflix makes money.

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toadfan64
06/20/20 1:26:10 AM
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Nah, but I doubt they'll ever match Nintendo or Sony sales numbers ever again.

I go to Nintendo for their great 1st party exclusives and Sony for the multiplat games I want, plus an exclusive or two. What does Xbox even have anymore? I was a massive Gears fan years ago, but that franchise was run into the ground.

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DarthAragorn
06/20/20 1:27:58 AM
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the average person doesn't give a shit about exclusives
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Tyranthraxus
06/20/20 1:29:14 AM
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toadfan64 posted...
What does Xbox even have anymore?

Literally Game Pass Ultimate.

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ThunderTrain
06/20/20 1:30:16 AM
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Microsoft only cares about Gamepass now.

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One_Day_Remains
06/20/20 1:30:51 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
the average person doesn't give a shit about exclusives


The average person doesn't own all three consoles.
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DarthAragorn
06/20/20 1:31:43 AM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
The average person doesn't own all three consoles.
yes I realize that

that has no effect on what I said
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One_Day_Remains
06/20/20 1:34:10 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...

yes I realize that

that has no effect on what I said


Exclusives are partially the reason why they don't.

If there isn't much for one particular console to offer, there isn't a sense in buying it except for your friends also playing on it, or real specific reasons like playing Rock Band and carrying over the DLC you bought on its predecessor console
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Darmik
06/20/20 1:38:10 AM
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The average person doesn't have a super powerful gaming PC either. Which is why Sony also isn't bothering to pay for timed exclusives to stay off PC and porting games like Horizon and Predator to it.

Both PS5 and Xbox Series X will have a lot of games the other console won't have.

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Mezcla
06/20/20 1:49:13 AM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
"I'll never buy an Xbox"

That's what you just said. Certainly proved me wrong with that one
BRO

BRO

BRO

READ WHAT I SAID

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One_Day_Remains
06/20/20 1:53:50 AM
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First of all I'm not your bro, Vince Russo.

Second, how can you be an Xbox customer without buying the console nor having any plans to? You're reaping the Xbox's benefits without being a customer nor having any incentive to.
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Mezcla
06/20/20 1:55:23 AM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
First of all I'm not your bro, Vince Russo.

Second, how can you be an Xbox customer without buying the console nor having any plans to? You're reaping the Xbox's benefits without being a customer nor having any incentive to.
BRO

THINK OF WHERE MY MONEY IS GOING TO WHEN I PAY FOR GAME PASS FOR PC, BRO

BRO

WHOS GETTING PAID?

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One_Day_Remains
06/20/20 1:57:05 AM
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Yes, Microsoft is making money off of you. That doesn't make you an Xbox customer.

That's like saying anyone who buys Microsoft Office is an Xbox customer because after all, the company that made the console is getting the money.
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Tyranthraxus
06/20/20 1:57:18 AM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
First of all I'm not your bro, Vince Russo.

Second, how can you be an Xbox customer without buying the console nor having any plans to? You're reaping the Xbox's benefits without being a customer nor having any incentive to.

Xbox is literally just a Windows app now.

The OS of XSX is just windows core plus Xbox DE.

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Darmik
06/20/20 2:01:07 AM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
Yes, Microsoft is making money off of you. That doesn't make you an Xbox customer.

That's like saying anyone who buys Microsoft Office is an Xbox customer because after all, the company that made the console is getting the money.

There's literally an Xbox store and subscription on PC.

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Romulox28
06/20/20 2:02:09 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
It just seems like every year they say "oh we got new studios, just wait for the games"

and then the games never come, or the games that do come out with a trickle are either multiplat anyway, or just not good, like Bleeding Edge, No Man's Sea, and that Honey, I Shrunk the Kids game. And probably that sequel to whatever Ninja Theory's game was called.
this 100%, feels like every year they talk about how there is some new commitment to games but the games never materialize. The last really good big Xbox exclusive was Halo 3 imo and that was 13 years ago


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Mezcla
06/20/20 2:02:46 AM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
Yes, Microsoft is making money off of you. That doesn't make you an Xbox customer.

That's like saying anyone who buys Microsoft Office is an Xbox customer because after all, the company that made the console is getting the money.
BRO

READ YOUR POST

AND USE YOUR BRAIN BRO

BRO

THINK BRO, THINK.

BRO

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DarthAragorn
06/20/20 2:02:51 AM
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iirc they hadn't acquired another studio since mojang
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One_Day_Remains
06/20/20 2:03:05 AM
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Imma be completely honest, the only reason I kept arguing was because Bluemonk kept saying "BRO" and typing in all caps and it was cracking me up.
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