Current Events > Are Mario and Luigi racist Italian stereotypes?

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HylianFox 06/19/20 12:53:45 PM #1:	Although it's questionable as to whether Italy even exists in the Mario universe >_> --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:940919521] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Although it's questionable as to whether Italy even exists in the Mario universe >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 06/19/20 12:55:52 PM #2:	No? --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:940919642] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>No? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 06/19/20 12:56:00 PM #3:	Nah it's not like their greasy looking assholes. They're just portly plumbers who like Italian things. --- AirFresh - Voted the hottest content creator on The FAQs' #KeepItFresh <cite>AirFresh posted [p:940919648] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Nah it's not like their greasy looking assholes. They're just portly plumbers who like Italian things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 06/19/20 12:56:06 PM #4:	They kinda are but I don't personally care and don't think anyone in Italy cares either. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:940919654] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>They kinda are but I don't personally care and don't think anyone in Italy cares either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 06/19/20 1:03:27 PM #5:	Tyranthraxus posted... They kinda are but I don't personally care and don't think anyone in Italy cares either. --- If Corona is so bad why not just make it illegal? thinking emoji <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:940920071] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>They kinda are but I don't personally care and don't think anyone in Italy cares either.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 06/19/20 1:10:51 PM #6:	If Italian people told me they didn't like it, then I'd conclude that they are. If not, then no. They appear to be stereotypes, but not racist ones. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:940920432] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>If Italian people told me they didn't like it, then I'd conclude that they are. If not, then no. They appear to be stereotypes, but not racist ones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BreezyExcursion 06/19/20 1:15:58 PM #7:	"Itsa me, Mario!" --- gm <cite>BreezyExcursion posted [p:940920707] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>"Itsa me, Mario!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 06/19/20 1:29:32 PM #8:	Cancel them --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. <cite>Smackems posted [p:940921433] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Cancel them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/19/20 1:31:55 PM #9:	The official canon says hes from Brooklyn, New York. Thats actually Miyamotos own lore. That said, it doesnt explain his Italian accent. So clearly he came from Italy before then. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:940921571] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>The official canon says hes from Brooklyn, New York. Thats actually Miyamotos own lore. That said, it doesnt explain his Italian accent. So clearly he came from Italy before then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/19/20 1:36:10 PM #10:	Being Nintendo-published, canonical games, Marios Time Machine and Mario is Missing both directly state that Mario is from Brooklyn as well. Yoshis Island seemingly calls this into question - and Nintendo has never truly been clear about whether or not the Babies are actually legitimately Mario, Luigi, Peach, etc from the past or if theyre actually counterparts from another dimension (like Paper Mario is to Mario from M&L) --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:940921836] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Being Nintendo-published, canonical games, Marios Time Machine and Mario is Missing both directly state that Mario is from Brooklyn as well. Yoshis Island seemingly calls this into question - and Nintendo has never truly been clear about whether or not the Babies are actually legitimately Mario, Luigi, Peach, etc from the past or if theyre actually counterparts from another dimension (like Paper Mario is to Mario from M&L) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 06/19/20 1:36:27 PM #11:	the name for one of the more common enemies in the franchise is literally an anti-italian ethnic slur --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:940921859] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>the name for one of the more common enemies in the franchise is literally an anti-italian ethnic slur </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 06/19/20 2:00:50 PM #12:	DarkRoast posted... The official canon says hes from Brooklyn, New York. Thats actually Miyamotos own lore. DarkRoast posted... Being Nintendo-published, canonical games, Marios Time Machine and Mario is Missing both directly state that Mario is from Brooklyn as well. I'm pretty sure this has since been retconned, and that they are officially born and raised in the Mushroom Kingdom. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:940923222] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>The official canon says hes from Brooklyn, New York. Thats actually Miyamotos own lore.</quote> DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>Being Nintendo-published, canonical games, Marios Time Machine and Mario is Missing both directly state that Mario is from Brooklyn as well.</quote>I'm pretty sure this has since been retconned, and that they are officially born and raised in the Mushroom Kingdom. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skiggie 06/19/20 2:05:56 PM #13:	No. End of topic. Move on. --- Royale Wit' Cheese!! <cite>Skiggie posted [p:940923481] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>No. End of topic. Move on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoodOlJr 06/19/20 2:07:13 PM #14:	No, if you hear people from italy speaking italian they have a similar accent Its accent a very beautiful language --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 <cite>GoodOlJr posted [p:940923548] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>No, if you hear people from italy speaking italian they have a similar accent Its accent a very beautiful language</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeperMessiahXX 06/19/20 2:09:36 PM #15:	I'm from a large Italian family and Mario seems to be universally loved. I think Italians are actually fond of having an icon being modeled after them. --- Steve Rhoades >>> Jefferson D'Arcy Fight Me. <cite>LeperMessiahXX posted [p:940923693] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>I'm from a large Italian family and Mario seems to be universally loved. I think Italians are actually fond of having an icon being modeled after them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 06/19/20 2:12:39 PM #16:	maybe in the 80s when american media had them talking about pizza ravioli spaghetti mama mia at the time, but from the 90s onwards he is barely even recognizable as that character and is more like a short man who runs around yelling WAHOO WAHAAA --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:940923891] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>maybe in the 80s when american media had them talking about pizza ravioli spaghetti mama mia at the time, but from the 90s onwards he is barely even recognizable as that character and is more like a short man who runs around yelling WAHOO WAHAAA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 06/19/20 2:14:53 PM #17:	At this point, is there even anything besides the accents and mustaches that people would associate with them being Italian? --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:940924027] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>At this point, is there even anything besides the accents and mustaches that people would associate with them being Italian? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archedsoul 06/19/20 2:15:35 PM #18:	It's a the fucking me, the super fucking Mario!!! Seriously though, yeah it's racist. It's based off a real Italian guy. --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." <cite>archedsoul posted [p:940924069] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>It's a the fucking me, the super fucking Mario!!! Seriously though, yeah it's racist. It's based off a real Italian guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 06/19/20 2:15:50 PM #19:	Wasn't Mario originally a construction worker or some kind of carpenter but then he just fell into the plumber role? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:940924084] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't Mario originally a construction worker or some kind of carpenter but then he just fell into the plumber role? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RustyFerret 06/19/20 2:21:03 PM #20:	https://youtu.be/XfG0-iW5o0Y <cite>RustyFerret posted [p:940924384] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/XfG0-iW5o0Y </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/19/20 2:24:29 PM #21:	Solar_Crimson posted... I'm pretty sure this has since been retconned, and that they are officially born and raised in the Mushroom Kingdom. Thats basically contradicted by Yoshis Island, unless you go with the multiverse theory --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:940924574] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure this has since been retconned, and that they are officially born and raised in the Mushroom Kingdom.</quote> Thats basically contradicted by Yoshis Island, unless you go with the multiverse theory </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Politics 06/19/20 2:24:39 PM #22:	I'm pretty Italian and I love Mario and Luigi. Wario was the best by far though. --- (= <cite>Politics posted [p:940924585] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty Italian and I love Mario and Luigi. Wario was the best by far though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/19/20 2:25:36 PM #23:	Mario: Recquiescat en pace, Bowser --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:940924636] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Mario: Recquiescat en pace, Bowser </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 06/19/20 2:26:25 PM #24:	Mario is definitely racist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Wn48geCJ8 --- https://youtube.com/TheYoungTurks Bernie > Biden > poop > Trump https://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://youtube.com/ChadTheChud <cite>Notti posted [p:940924681] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Mario is definitely racist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Wn48geCJ8</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 06/19/20 2:28:24 PM #25:	They're upwardly mobile working class heroes of an entire nation that fuck princesses on the side. Every ethnicity wishes they had those kinds of role models. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:940924809] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>They're upwardly mobile working class heroes of an entire nation that fuck princesses on the side. Every ethnicity wishes they had those kinds of role models. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsteriskChamps 06/19/20 2:29:13 PM #26:	I mean they are racist stereotypes, just like Groundkeeper Willy is, but it doesnt matter if its a white culture being stereotyped, people are chill about it. Like, dont get me twisted, I know most are cool with like Apu but he did have a bunch of outrage around him that youd never get for white stereotypes <cite>AsteriskChamps posted [p:940924860] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>I mean they are racist stereotypes, just like Groundkeeper Willy is, but it doesnt matter if its a white culture being stereotyped, people are chill about it. Like, dont get me twisted, I know most are cool with like Apu but he did have a bunch of outrage around him that youd never get for white stereotypes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 06/19/20 2:30:19 PM #27:	Cancel Mario and burn down Nintendo --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. Vicious_Dios Original - https://tinyurl.com/y9fpdoll <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:940924916] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Cancel Mario and burn down Nintendo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 06/19/20 2:45:39 PM #28:	RustyFerret posted... https://youtu.be/XfG0-iW5o0Y If that stache is wrong I don't wanna be right. --- https://youtube.com/TheYoungTurks Bernie > Biden > poop > Trump https://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://youtube.com/ChadTheChud <cite>Notti posted [p:940925797] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote><cite>RustyFerret posted...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/XfG0-iW5o0Y </quote> If that stache is wrong I don't wanna be right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoke_break 06/19/20 2:47:37 PM #29:	Honestly, yeah. --- https://imgur.com/mOCFlRv <cite>smoke_break posted [p:940925898] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, yeah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wheelman1 06/19/20 2:55:16 PM #30:	Heck no. Cancel culture better not attack the Mario's. --- XBox Live GT: MastaMez PSN: KoolMez The Topic Killer \_0_/ <cite>The Wheelman1 posted [p:940926286] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Heck no. Cancel culture better not attack the Mario's. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GodIsImaginary 06/19/20 3:51:02 PM #31:	Isn't goomba also a slur? <cite>GodIsImaginary posted [p:940928972] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Isn't goomba also a slur? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Boombam99 06/19/20 3:59:10 PM #32:	As a person of Italian descent myself I can say that I dont care <cite>Boombam99 posted [p:940929402] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>As a person of Italian descent myself I can say that I dont care </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 06/19/20 4:02:08 PM #33:	A thank you so much for do for playing my game! :D --- 2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3, a fitting end for a monster like me. <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:940929567] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>A thank you so much for do for playing my game! :D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Northlane 06/19/20 4:07:48 PM #34:	https://youtu.be/D5xeylfWqOM --- An NFL Haiku Bosa dreams broken. Like records set by Mahomes. Gruden is a bust. <cite>Northlane posted [p:940929863] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/D5xeylfWqOM </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andri_g 06/19/20 4:10:35 PM #35:	DarkRoast posted... The official canon says hes from Brooklyn, New York. Thats actually Miyamotos own lore. That said, it doesnt explain his Italian accent. So clearly he came from Italy before then. Unless they [M&L] were born in Brooklyn to Italian immigrant parents. If so, their formative experiences with language would be Italian or English with a distinct Italian accent. --- '~' <cite>andri_g posted [p:940929995] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>The official canon says hes from Brooklyn, New York. Thats actually Miyamotos own lore. That said, it doesnt explain his Italian accent. So clearly he came from Italy before then.</quote>Unless they [M&L] were born in Brooklyn to Italian immigrant parents. If so, their formative experiences with language would be Italian or English with a distinct Italian accent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 06/19/20 4:12:48 PM #36:	I don't want to get into an intense debate over the deep and engaging lore of Mario canon here but I just want to point out babies in Mario-verse are delivered by Stork. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:940930120] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>I don't want to get into an intense debate over the deep and engaging lore of Mario canon here but I just want to point out babies in Mario-verse are delivered by Stork. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 06/19/20 4:15:10 PM #37:	Tyranthraxus posted... They kinda are but I don't personally care and don't think anyone in Italy cares either. There are more than 60 million people in Italy. At least one of them might care. --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:940930256] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>They kinda are but I don't personally care and don't think anyone in Italy cares either.</quote>There are more than 60 million people in Italy. At least one of them might care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 06/19/20 4:24:28 PM #38:	Nah, we need to get out of this mindset that making fun/stereotyping is inherently a bad thing. It's pretty damn easy to tell when something is disparaging a race and something is a simple caricature. That line can obviously get blurred, but it's a case by case thing. <cite>nemu posted [p:940930736] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Nah, we need to get out of this mindset that making fun/stereotyping is inherently a bad thing. It's pretty damn easy to tell when something is disparaging a race and something is a simple caricature. That line can obviously get blurred, but it's a case by case thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bloodyarts 06/19/20 4:26:33 PM #39:	AsteriskChamps posted... ...if its a white culture being stereotyped, people are chill about it. Shut up. No one complains when Simpsons, South Park and other animated shows stereotype Black culture, like the depictions of rappers, and parody Black dialect (voiced by white people, no less smh). "wHItE peepuL aRe opPRessEd!" Foh <cite>bloodyarts posted [p:940930854] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>AsteriskChamps posted... </cite> <quote>...if its a white culture being stereotyped, people are chill about it.</quote>Shut up. No one complains when Simpsons, South Park and other animated shows stereotype Black culture, like the depictions of rappers, and parody Black dialect (voiced by white people, no less smh). "wHItE peepuL aRe opPRessEd!" Foh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L0Z 06/19/20 4:29:10 PM #40:	Theyre Italian-American and live in Brooklyn in that show. So it stereotypes italian-Americans living in NYC not Italians. <cite>L0Z posted [p:940930990] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>Theyre Italian-American and live in Brooklyn in that show. So it stereotypes italian-Americans living in NYC not Italians. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 06/19/20 4:30:46 PM #41:	They were, which is why they changed the character. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:940931082] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>They were, which is why they changed the character. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 06/19/20 4:38:13 PM #42:	EndOfDiscOne posted... There are more than 60 million people in Italy. At least one of them might care. I am sure there's some deranged nationalist there who is offended not by Mario but by the fact that he's owned by a Japanese company but I don't really think it's worth bringing that up as if there was a cultural issue in Italy where Mario was considered problematic. While I haven't spent as much time in Italy as I'd have liked and the time I did spend is mostly with my relatives who still live there, the very notion that anyone would even ask "is this offensive?" Seems somewhat absurd and something I'd only hear from an American. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:940931416] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>EndOfDiscOne posted... </cite> <quote>There are more than 60 million people in Italy. At least one of them might care.</quote> I am sure there's some deranged nationalist there who is offended not by Mario but by the fact that he's owned by a Japanese company but I don't really think it's worth bringing that up as if there was a cultural issue in Italy where Mario was considered problematic. While I haven't spent as much time in Italy as I'd have liked and the time I did spend is mostly with my relatives who still live there, the very notion that anyone would even ask "is this offensive?" Seems somewhat absurd and something I'd only hear from an American. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 06/19/20 4:41:34 PM #43:	DarkRoast posted... Mario: Recquiescat en pace, Bowser https://youtu.be/RJcPc6OQ384 --- 2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3, a fitting end for a monster like me. <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:940931558] in Are Mario ... [t:78785015]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>Mario: Recquiescat en pace, Bowser</quote>https://youtu.be/RJcPc6OQ384 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Are Mario and Luigi racist Italian stereotypes?