Current Events > Taco Bell fired an employee for wearing BLM mask and Twitter is cancelling them

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Orlando_Jordan posted...

BLM is politics. We want change. You didn't think very deeply into this, did you?

This

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SiO4 posted...

Not true but whatever.
Female supervisors tend to nitpick the stupid shit, while male sups. tend to just focus on the shit that matters.

You know maybe, just maybe I am talking about the Supreviour mindset, as it pertains to gender.
Imagine that, Men and women often see things differently and deal with issues differently.
Imagine being that incorporated into the Human Race to understand that.

do you have any evidence backing this whatsoever? or purely anecdotal?

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Orlando_Jordan posted...

BLM is politics. We want change. You didn't think very deeply into this, did you?

no. it's not. it's standing up for human rights. yes, it's about change. but it's not "political"

conservatives think black people or gay people or anything like is political. it's stupid. BLM is about basic fucking human decency.

BudDupree48 posted...

Its a strong enough message to have people either flock to or boycott a fast food place like taco bell so the message can indeed be poltical

I doubt this is going to be Chick-fil-a all over again.

Questionmarktarius posted...

I doubt this is going to be Chick-fil-a all over again.

Have you seen the power of the burning pitchforks of the internet

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BLM is inherently political in a system where such a movement is necessary. Political does not refer only to American party politics. Also Orlando Jordan is a rightwing troll who does not support blm

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Obviously you can't have a pinned tweet on your official Twitter account supporting BLM and then have an employee fired for doing the same. That looks hypocritical.

That said it looks like this was a sole store manager doing her thing and Taco Bell has already come out and apologized, confirmed that wearing BLM-related messages is okay and is working with the unfairly terminated employee. So I'm not sure what there is to cancel here.

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ASithLord7 posted...

BLM is inherently political in a system where such a movement is necessary. Political does not refer only to American party politics. Also Orlando Jordan is a rightwing troll who does not support blm

I think calling it political is an attempt to delegitimize the movement. making it seem like it's something people can disagree with due to politics. and not be considered evil for doing so

"om not racist, I just have a different political opinion"

"about black people being shot by cops?"

"yes! quit bringing politics into it!"

J03can posted...

Sooo like all of these companies have rules that state clearly you cant make political statements on your uniform while at work.
And i was all ready to be like "well fair is fair"
But if these corporations are publiclly supporting political movements, their employees should be able to do this. ESPECIALLY IF IT IS THE SAME MESSAGE

This is just it. We've got rules in place stating that corporations are viewed as private citizens for the purpose of giving political donations. We've already got corporations bringing politics into work. Employees aren't allowed to? Fuck off with that.

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lmao CE just keeps getting shitter and dumber by the day I swear

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

BLM isn't political, you can support it whether Democrat or Republican

It doesn't have to be red team or blue team to be a political movement. Look up the word "political" lmao.

There are more than a dozen political parties in the United States alone.

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Zikten posted...

I think calling it political is an attempt to delegitimize the movement. making it seem like it's something people can disagree with due to politics. and not be considered evil for doing so

"om not racist, I just have a different political opinion"

"about black people being shot by cops?"

"yes! quit bringing politics into it!"

Yes, usage of politics/political in that way by the right is an attempt to delegitimize, but that doesnt change what the word actually means. Everything is political

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Zikten posted...

no. it's not. it's standing up for human rights. yes, it's about change. but it's not "political"

conservatives think black people or gay people or anything like is political. it's stupid. BLM is about basic fucking human decency.

Standing up for human rights is political. MLK and Gandhi were political. Get a clue.

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Zikten posted...

I think calling it political is an attempt to delegitimize the movement. making it seem like it's something people can disagree with due to politics. and not be considered evil for doing so

"om not racist, I just have a different political opinion"

"about black people being shot by cops?"

"yes! quit bringing politics into it!"

No. For change to be made it has to be brought up to the highest level and thats legislature and all those political bad boys

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I support BLM wholeheartedly, but it is unquestionably political and it seems a little silly to deny that

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kewldude475 posted...

No one is boycotting Taco Bell or flocking to it because of the guy wearing the BLM mask, or anything related to someone supporting BLM by itself, so your statement is fallacious.

A potential customer could see that and walk out. People go to Taco Bell to eat food, not debate issues with the cashier.

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Lorthremar posted...

do you have any evidence backing this whatsoever? or purely anecdotal?

Ya, it's called life experience.
20+ years of being in the workforce.

Oh, and BTW: Fuck off with saying I hate women.
Don't put words into my mouth because of your poor comprehension skills.
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Orlando_Jordan posted...

A potential customer could see that and walk out. People go to Taco Bell to eat food, not debate issues with the cashier.

This is right

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political
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ADJECTIVE

1. relating to the government or the public affairs of a country.

Totally didn't realize BLM had nothing to do with the government or public affairs of this country.

Now the bullshit with this is that if Taco Bell can publicly support BLM then why would it be an issue if one of their workers supported it?

Like it was said before this is a case of shitty management.

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kewldude475 posted...

The problem with that point of view here, the term "political" is being used in a term that denotes something detrimental or controversial. And it is rooted in racism since human rights shouldn't be a political issue for black people.

No one is boycotting Taco Bell or flocking to it because of the guy wearing the BLM mask, or anything related to someone supporting BLM by itself, so your statement is fallacious.

It shouldnt be a political issue, but it is. Pretending otherwise doesnt help that fact. But again, yes I realize the word political is often preferred by the right for trying to write off whatever they disagree with

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That's pretty fucked considering most Taco Bell employees are Black; at least in my area.

Ugh this is so stupid, it's a lose for everyone. You want to know how you avoid this? You don't wear BLM apparel to work. Problem solved. There is a strict uniform guideline at taco bell, just because you have to wear a mask now doesn't mean you can wear whatever mask you want to work.

This is so typical from a fast food employee. You give these people any kind of wiggle room when it comes to their uniform and they start trying to make statements and peacock with their new freedom.

Want to know how to figure out who is in the wrong? Have the taco bell provide the masks the employees can wear. I bet you this ignoramus might figure out that he's at work and not at home.

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kewldude475 posted...

No one is boycotting Taco Bell or flocking to it because of the guy wearing the BLM mask, or anything related to someone supporting BLM by itself, so your statement is fallacious.

Give it 24 hours to hit Fox News
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BLM involves itself in the political system. They are actively trying to influence politics. It is political

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BudDupree48 posted...

This is right

Given that the official Taco Bell Twitter has this pinned to the top of their Twitter, I'm not sure they are terribly worried about offending customers who would not eat at Taco Bell over BLM support.
https://twitter.com/tacobell/status/1267848537313693696


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kewldude475 posted...

So by that logic, who cares if it's political? It's not controversial. Also, businesses donate to political campaigns all the time, who cares if politics are involved.

You could say a lot of things are political. If someone says "I believe all people should be treated fairly" should they be allowed to be fired at work for being "political"? By your logic and the fact that you are arguing with me on this, they should be.

I feel like youre misinterpreting my post. Im not saying anyone should care or that anyone should be fire, and im not arguing with you lol. We agree on this issue. I was simply correcting ziktens post about the word. Again, the point is, everything is political. And yeah, honestly, everyone should be treated fairly is too. Thats far from universal or the reality across most of the world.

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ghettoraider81 posted...

They cant let him wear a mask like that. If they allow it then they have to allow other political statements. Let him wear the BLM mask then you cant stop the next employee from wearing a MAGA one.

Yeah, and while I may agree with the BLM and shrug off a MAGA one because people can support whatever they want, if I'm in charge of a business I realize that a *LOT* of people are supercharged one way or the other on these things. Some customers are going to flip out at one or the other. I don't want to deal with that as a manager--so no statement of any kind on a mask seems like a good rule.

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kewldude475 posted...

Walk out because... why? You'd have to be pretty dumb to walk out because of something like that.

Do you want me to cook up scenarios? Maybe an old white couple is afraid of the recent riots and uncomfortable dining there. Maybe a police officer is afraid the cashier will spit in his food.

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The Top Crusader posted...

Yeah, and while I may agree with the BLM and shrug off a MAGA one because people can support whatever they want, if I'm in charge of a business I realize that a *LOT* of people are supercharged one way or the other on these things. Some customers are going to flip out at one or the other. I don't want to deal with that as a manager--so no statement of any kind on a mask seems like a good rule.

EXACTLY

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Orlando_Jordan posted...

A potential customer could see that and walk out. People go to Taco Bell to eat food, not debate issues with the cashier.

Racists are severely outnumbered so supporting BLM is more likely to not piss off people.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

Racists are severely outnumbered so supporting BLM is more likely to not piss off people.

Look man. The BLM movement is tainted because of all these riots. I genuinely think they are trying to do good and I support that but to others and the uneducated they believe they are the ones burning businesses to the fucking ground and maybe they are.

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The Top Crusader posted...

Yeah, and while I may agree with the BLM and shrug off a MAGA one because people can support whatever they want, if I'm in charge of a business I realize that a *LOT* of people are supercharged one way or the other on these things. Some customers are going to flip out at one or the other. I don't want to deal with that as a manager--so no statement of any kind on a mask seems like a good rule.

I think they should at least provide masks for those employees though. A lot of us probably wouldn't bat an eye over varying 'obscene' content on masks getting someone fired, but uniform masks given out by the company gets rid of a lot of those issues.

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kewldude475 posted...

Re-read your statement. If this news story hits Fox News, Taco Bell will probably see a surge in sales because of Fox News-watchers who support this firing.

Check the OP again, they apologized for the firing, which is what would cause the right to seeth
https://www.newsweek.com/rip-taco-bell-blm-mask-fired-1511862
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Now I want Taco Bell
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Zikten posted...

MAGA is political. BLM is not. anyone who considers BLM to be "politics" is a fucking racist

What a new and innovative debate tactic that you surely havent used every time you post.

Zikten posted...

ALM and BLM are hate speech so no

Lmao what a terrible time to decide to abbreviate.

kewldude475 posted...

Them let em walk out who cares, most people won't care, particularly in today's social climate

There's a reason you aren't a businessman.

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Yeah it's 100% false equivalence to compare a BLM mask to a MAGA one, fuck off with that stupid shit. BLM may be a "controversial" statement for some people, but MAGA is literally a campaign slogan for an actual political candidate. BLM is not associated with any particular political candidate or party, so wearing a mask with that slogan cannot be construed as a political endorsement.

As a side note, that manager sounds an awful lot like Joan Cusack. Has her career really fallen that far?

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Artemis86 posted...

What a new and innovative debate tactic that you surely havent used every time you post.

Lmao what a terrible time to decide to abbreviate.

I love how you pretend to not be racist. Fuck off

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Orlando_Jordan posted...

There's a reason you aren't a businessman.

Explain this then:
https://twitter.com/tacobell/status/1267848537313693696

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kewldude475 posted...

Human rights. Not really a political affiliation/denotation there, or at least there shouldn't be.

Do there have to be parties involved to be political?

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BudDupree48 posted...

Look man. The BLM movement is tainted because of all these riots. I genuinely think they are trying to do good and I support that but to others and the uneducated they believe they are the ones burning businesses to the fucking ground and maybe they are.

Like I said racists are severely outnumbered.
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SiO4 posted...

Good, fuck them.
~Fuck all corporate board room decisions.

That's generally a bunch old highly paid sheltered white dudes, and their daddy issues blond white woman, making decisions about a perfect world that only exists in their head.

Fuck those people.

Ah, another good example.

Point out that any given group of people are black and youre a racist. Point out a group of people is white, throw in a fuck those people and no one bats an eye. Its clear where were headed.