Current Events > For all its problems, TROS bringing back Palpatine makes sense

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Josiah_Is_Back
06/13/20 9:49:37 PM
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Everyone saying "how the Hell did he survive Return of the Jedi?!" and saying it's silly... do they not remember Episode III and the story of Darth Plagueis and the powers of the Dark Side?

"The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural" (a line even repeated by Sidious in TROS)

and

"Ironic... he could save others from dying... but not himself."

The latter line referring to Plagueis, and it's heavily implied Sidious was his apprentice. So the Emperor coming back in TROS brings all this full circle, and even implies that perhaps he already knew how to bring himself back from the dead way back in Ep III, and possibly knew how to save Padme's life, but purposely kept that knowledge hidden from Anakin.
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UnfairRepresent
06/13/20 9:51:01 PM
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Nice spoilers dude
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Zero_Destroyer
06/13/20 9:51:03 PM
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no

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Jabodie
06/13/20 9:51:29 PM
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It was an ass pull based on one line in episode 3.

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Josiah_Is_Back
06/13/20 9:52:13 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Nice spoilers dude

His reveal is literally in the teaser trailer.
Try harder.
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Jabodie
06/13/20 9:52:32 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Nice spoilers dude
Is it spoilers? He lives! is in the title crawl. His first lines are in like the first 5 minutes.

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Zikten
06/13/20 9:52:59 PM
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To be fair he's right. The trailers didn't hide he was in the movie

If its in the trailer I dont consider it spoilers
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sabin017
06/13/20 9:53:05 PM
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All the complaining is stupid because for decades the Extended Universe had Palpatine alive after ROTJ.

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Josiah_Is_Back
06/13/20 9:53:10 PM
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Jabodie posted...
It was an ass pull based on one line in episode 3.

Maybe, but at least it's consistent
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UnfairRepresent
06/13/20 9:54:07 PM
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Well I never saw the teaser trailer and it's the 3rd movie in a trilogy.

Now you've spoiled for me that he's the dude behind everything.

Just put *spoilers* in the topic title and blank out the name, it's not hard.
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Swagger_Dagger
06/13/20 9:57:22 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Well I never saw the teaser trailer and it's the 3rd movie in a trilogy.

Now you've spoiled for me that he's the dude behind everything.

Just put *spoilers* in the topic title and blank out the name, it's not hard.
Mods clarified this, if it's in the trailers it's not spoilers. Your problem.

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Kisai
06/13/20 9:57:33 PM
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Zikten posted...
The trailers didn't hide he was in the movie
It was obvious to anyone with a brain that the laughing was Palpatine, but there were so many people in denial who thought it was Luke.

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Josiah_Is_Back
06/13/20 10:02:17 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Well I never saw the teaser trailer and it's the 3rd movie in a trilogy.

Now you've spoiled for me that he's the dude behind everything.

Just put *spoilers* in the topic title and blank out the name, it's not hard.

Don't worry, the movie will literally spoil it for you in the opening crawl. It's not a spoiler in the sense you think.
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Cheese_Crackers
06/13/20 10:03:37 PM
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"Makes sense" is stretching it. But maybe people would have liked it more if his return speech to the galaxy wasn't given in fucking Fortnite.

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PokemonYoutube
06/13/20 10:06:58 PM
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It's still a bullshit excuse because Plagueis's power doesn't work like that. Clearly he could use it to prevent people from dying of old age or natural causes, but not from getting killed. If he could have used it to resurrect himself after Palpatine killed him, he would have. So Palpatine shouldn't be able to use that power to resurrect himself after Vader killed him. And especially not given how he died. Thrown into the reactor of the Death Star, which then exploded. Even if he survived the explosion somehow, he'd be stranded in the vacuum of space.
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UnfairRepresent
06/13/20 10:07:54 PM
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Swagger_Dagger posted...

Mods clarified this, if it's in the trailers it's not spoilers. Your problem.

That makes no sense. Things in trailers spoil stuff all the time

The trailer for MCU Endgame spoils

MCU Spoilers

What happens in Iron Man, Thor, Captain America and Infinity War.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcMBFSGVi1c


You can talk about like the characters outfits and stuff but plot spoilers that spoil the movie for people who haven't seen it are spoiling.
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Josiah_Is_Back
06/13/20 10:10:59 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
That makes no sense. Things in trailers spoil stuff all the time

If you're watching Endgame, it's fair on the producers' part to assume you're familiar with the movies that led up to it.

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UnfairRepresent
06/13/20 10:12:17 PM
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Josiah_Is_Back posted...


If you're watching Endgame, it's fair on the producers' part to assume you're familiar with the movies that led up to it.


On the producers part sure

But you're talking about topic titles on a general message board.

In the TOU you have a duty to try not to spoil things for other users and it's not hard to do. Say spoilers and blank out the spoiler in the topic title. It take 0.5 seconds.

Just think of one single person on Earth who isn't you for a moment.
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Josiah_Is_Back
06/13/20 10:14:27 PM
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Cry me a river, bro.
I already told you the movie fucking spells it out in the opening crawl. It's not a goddamn spoiler. Get over yourself.
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Bananana
06/13/20 10:16:01 PM
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protip: dont reply to unfairrepresent seriously

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Prismsblade
06/13/20 10:16:53 PM
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Josiah_Is_Back posted...
Don't worry, the movie will literally spoil it for you in the opening crawl. It's not a spoiler in the sense you think.
Didnt they spoiler it even earlier then that in a fortnite event?

The nonsense of his resurrection aside this completely destroyed the chosen one prophesy, and undermined Anakin's sacrifice completely. And dont bother bringing up his resurrection in legends continuity, it was dumb there and its dumb here.

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Webmaster4531
06/13/20 10:18:36 PM
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Josiah_Is_Back posted...
For all its problems, TROS bringing back Palpatine makes sense
Whatever you're smoking. Stop.

sabin017 posted...
All the complaining is stupid because for decades the Extended Universe
Only thing Disney did right was make EU non-canon.
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hockeybub89
06/13/20 10:19:51 PM
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JuanCarlos1
06/13/20 10:20:16 PM
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Being alive I can believe. But the timing? The relation to rey***** and the huge fleet of star destroyers were overkill on probability. So damn lazy.

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Jiek_Fafn
06/13/20 10:20:21 PM
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I wouldve much preferred it being hinted at or explained in the context of one of the films instead of just the opening crawl. The idea of him coming back i was fine with. It was just terribly executed.

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PepsiWithCoke
06/13/20 10:23:24 PM
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Josiah_Is_Back
06/13/20 10:23:58 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
I wouldve much preferred it being hinted at or explained in the context of one of the films instead of just the opening crawl. The idea of him coming back i was fine with. It was just terribly executed.

I read a YouTube comment that had a brilliant suggestion. Imagine if The Last Jedi ended with the Fortnite broadcast from Palpatine. Cue the shocked expressions of everyone, even Hux and Kylo, then cut to credits.

Hell with all the revised and edited shit Lucas has done, I'd be okay with Disney doing that.
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Zack_Attackv1
06/13/20 10:24:06 PM
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It was the only thing they could do to bring people back to the cinemas.

Fucking Disney.
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