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XboxLegendary
05/14/20 4:04:20 PM
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What's your endgame? Be honest. Do you think we should the shutter the economy the rest of the year?

Keep it closed all of next year?

Keep it closed until there's a vaccine?

Everyday I go on twitter and see liberals booing and hissing any county or state that lifts stay-at-home orders. I get their mentality (however unfeasible it is) that saving lives is more important than saving the economy. But...they know that's just not possible, right? I would hope they know that the vast majority of America isn't willing to stay at home indefinitely. It's only been 2 months and people are already protesting. Do you think those people are just going to capitulate and stay home for 2 years or longer?

It's not going to happen. So I ask again, where is the realistic goal post? What response do you want to see? Or are you just going to crucify every individual who doesn't share your pro-socialist ideology?
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MC_BatCommander
05/14/20 4:05:21 PM
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this seems like a legit post to stir honest disc-

XboxLegendary posted...
Or are you just going to crucify every individual who doesn't share your pro-socialist ideology?

womp womp

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DeathDeathSong
05/14/20 4:06:06 PM
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KiwiTerraRizing
05/14/20 4:06:56 PM
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I want whatever upsets you personally.

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Squall28
05/14/20 4:07:20 PM
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I think we should quarantine better. We fucking sucked these last two months. People still went out and spread this shit.

I want to get to zero new cases, and have testing readily available in drive-thrus.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/14/20 4:07:37 PM
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Anyplace that is talking about opening up needs to see a decline in numbers and the medical field in that area needs to agree they can handle the inevitable increase in numbers that will happen.

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IMNOTRAGED
05/14/20 4:08:04 PM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
I want whatever upsets you personally.


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bluezero
05/14/20 4:08:45 PM
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My endgame is living. The number of cases and deaths keep rising, no one can get a test, so why is this a great time to reopen? Because you're bored? Your freedoms?

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uwa ej
05/14/20 4:13:42 PM
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Decline in cases and no increases for two weeks minimum
Available testing
Contact tracing
A plan to reopen in stages, no more than 25% capacity for all businesses
A specific plan to re-shutdown pending well defined metrics

This is a bare minimum. Its not unrealistic by any means.
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XboxLegendary
05/14/20 4:14:51 PM
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bluezero posted...
My endgame is living. The number of cases and deaths keep rising, no one can get a test, so why is this a great time to reopen? Because you're bored? Your freedoms?
The WHO says it's unlikely the virus is going to disappear. Ever. Yeah, it sucks, but we're stuck with it. We need to learn to live with it. Not hide in our houses for years.
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inTaCtfuL
05/14/20 4:14:53 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
I would hope they know that the vast majority of America isn't willing to stay at home indefinitely.
don't most Americans agree with the stay home orders and think that states are opening way too quickly though? lol

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bluezero
05/14/20 4:16:58 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
The WHO says it's unlikely the virus is going to disappear. Ever. Yeah, it sucks, but we're stuck with it. We need to learn to live with it. Not hide in our houses for years.
Who is saying years, besides you and every other red hat trying desperately to win an argument?

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bigtiggie23
05/14/20 4:17:43 PM
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inTaCtfuL posted...

don't most Americans agree with the stay home orders and think that states are opening way too quickly though? lol

They agree the rest of the country should stay shut down but where they live is ready to go.
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Antifar
05/14/20 4:18:28 PM
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inTaCtfuL posted...

don't most Americans agree with the stay home orders and think that states are opening way too quickly though? lol

That's correct. TC's statement is based on nothing.
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XboxLegendary
05/14/20 4:20:46 PM
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Antifar posted...
That's correct. TC's statement is based on nothing.
Depends on where you live. My county is conservative to the bone.
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IMNOTRAGED
05/14/20 4:21:52 PM
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If only viruses respected county lines

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Antifar
05/14/20 4:22:35 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...

Depends on where you live. My county is conservative to the bone.

Here's a poll from Texas
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/04/26/texas-reopening-coronavirus-poll/
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Kolibri X
05/14/20 4:22:55 PM
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You're asking questions to people who don't think, only do as they're told.

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MC_BatCommander
05/14/20 4:24:44 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
You're asking questions to people who don't think, only do as they're told.

enlighten us senpai, enlighten us!!!

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XboxLegendary
05/14/20 4:25:08 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
You're asking questions to people who don't think, only do as they're told.
Don't I know it. Can't wait until the government tells them they can no longer suck a the teat and get back to work.
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Kolibri X
05/14/20 4:26:15 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
enlighten us senpai, enlighten us!!!

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

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Smashingpmkns
05/14/20 4:27:44 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
Be honest.


Lmao stfu
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Intro2Logic
05/14/20 4:29:46 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
Don't I know it. Can't wait until the government tells them they can no longer suck a the teat and get back to work.
You fucking love doing what you're told - that's why you're so eager to risk your health for your boss's bottom line.

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Musourenka
05/14/20 4:30:54 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
You fucking love doing what you're told - why else would you be so eager to go back to making your boss money?


Remember, obeying the government is slavery, but obeying your boss is freedom!

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MabusIncarnate
05/14/20 4:31:17 PM
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If you're on the same wavelength as Duncanwii you're gonna have a bad time

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XboxLegendary
05/14/20 4:31:40 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
You fucking love doing what you're told - that's why you're so eager to risk your health for your boss's bottom line.
I'm an essential worker. I've been working since day 1 of the shutdown supporting your lazy hide.
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Tmaster148
05/14/20 4:31:40 PM
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It only makes sense to re-open up places where the virus has been contained. But since we are not mass testing to figure out how widespread the virus is, it makes no sense to reopen the anywhere in the US.

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The23rdMagus
05/14/20 4:32:53 PM
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My "endgame" involves continuing to be alive and breathing. I'm in an at-risk group and have been away from home three times in the past six weeks - and even that felt excessive.

The more reckless behavior we see out there, the longer it's going to take until we can actually live our lives.

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Odoylerules
05/14/20 4:35:04 PM
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I hope the country falls apart so trump loses.
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XboxLegendary
05/14/20 4:35:43 PM
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Odoylerules posted...
I hope the country falls apart so trump loses.
^basically the Democrats' mentality towards this virus in a nutshell.
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Kolibri X
05/14/20 4:36:19 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...
^basically the Democrats' mentality towards this virus in a nutshell.
At least they're starting to admit it.

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The23rdMagus
05/14/20 5:01:11 PM
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Odoylerules posted...
I hope the country falls apart so trump loses.
I hope Trump gets his shit together and acts responsibly so that the country doesn't fall apart. So far, I'm not seeing any evidence of that.

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sktgamer_13dude
05/14/20 5:05:21 PM
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The bare, bare minimum would have to be widespread testing and the US doesnt have that.

Thats before thinking about business capacities and other obvious things.

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Odoylerules
05/14/20 5:07:18 PM
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XboxLegendary posted...

^basically the Democrats' mentality towards this virus in a nutshell.

Wow you really bit

Are you touching yourself now that you got to hear what you wanted to hear so badly?
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thronedfire2
05/14/20 5:07:40 PM
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Maybe we should actually test everyone for the virus before we open back up?

like maybe all the people who have still been working for the last three months should have been tested already??

maybe do that instead of wasting tests on Trump and his staff every day just so they dont have to wear masks???

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PsychicHippo
05/14/20 5:12:11 PM
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Do I have a plan myself? Not really. But I will tell you one thing - I can hardly take seriously the "wearing a mask is fear mongering" bit from the same people who insist on carrying a gun to the grocery store. I thought they were all about "protection"?

I'm fairly apolitical and tend to avoid these kinds of conversations, but it's disheartening how crazily people are reacting to fairly simple directives. Open, don't open, I don't care. It costs nothing to be cautious and considerate.

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Duncanwii
05/14/20 5:13:58 PM
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The23rdMagus posted...
My "endgame" involves continuing to be alive and breathing. I'm in an at-risk group and have been away from home three times in the past six weeks - and even that felt excessive.
Please tell me you're joking.

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MC_BatCommander
05/14/20 5:14:36 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Please tell me you're joking.

weren't you leaving CE for a week

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ZannoL
05/14/20 5:15:30 PM
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Fail topic
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TheGoldenEel
05/14/20 5:15:48 PM
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Fact of the matter is people were quarantining and business were shutting down over this before the state governments stepped in and made it official

the reason for making it official should have been to officially support individuals and businesses negatively affected by this

reopening will change very little. Except that some businesses will open. Some stupid people will get sick and spread the sickness.

the vast majority of businesses will still stay closed or very limited. The vast majority of people will still stay at home like they were doing before stay at home orders were put in place. Except now there will be more stupid people spreading it when they do have to leave quarantine (to buy groceries for example)

the republican response of allowing things to reopen is just so they can say not my problem when businesses start going under because of significantly lessened customer base

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ultimate reaver
05/14/20 5:17:25 PM
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march into the meat grinder idiots, everything is normal now

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The23rdMagus
05/14/20 5:31:09 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Please tell me you're joking.
What reason do I have to joke about this, Duncan? How many good jokes have you heard lately that have pneumonia as a punchline?

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XboxLegendary
05/14/20 5:40:08 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
march into the meat grinder idiots, everything is normal now
Did your wife's boyfriend tell you to write that?
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hockeybub89
05/14/20 5:41:32 PM
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How ever long annoys you, plus one day

If we weren't going to wait for things to get better, then we should have completely ignored the pandemic from day 1. No sense in half-assing it, getting annoyed, and trying to go back to normal while projecting deaths are going to get even worse. We're in such a rush to recover that we're going to slow recovery down.

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KillingMachine
05/14/20 5:42:52 PM
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Now is the time to fast-track automation. Things were heading in that direction anyway, the pandemic is good reason to accelerate it.
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SodomInsane
05/14/20 5:44:14 PM
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People be so doom and gloom. What happens if the red states end up not having bad outbreaks and it just the blue states like NY, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and California that get the worst of it. The places where the liberals are most vocal about the US being shut down.

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hockeybub89
05/14/20 5:46:51 PM
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SodomInsane posted...
People be so doom and gloom. What happens if the red states end up not having bad outbreaks and it just the blue states like NY, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and California that get the worst of it. The places where the liberals are most vocal about the US being shut down.
"We need to open up America, but fuck important parts of it because they're liberal. We can survive without them."

We really just need to get it over with and abolish the country. Let 50+ countries operate on their own.

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SodomInsane
05/14/20 5:52:30 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"We need to open up America, but fuck important parts of it because they're liberal. We can survive without them."

We really just need to get it over with and abolish the country. Let 50+ countries operate on their own.

Yeah pretty much. Best to reopen. The governement isn't paying or feeding people weekly to stay home they got bills to pay. Let them work to earn and living and survive rather than let the bills pile up and end up owing 2+ month bill.

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thronedfire2
05/14/20 5:54:13 PM
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SodomInsane posted...
People be so doom and gloom. What happens if the red states end up not having bad outbreaks and it just the blue states like NY, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and California that get the worst of it. The places where the liberals are most vocal about the US being shut down.

The only way the red states arent having bad outbreaks is because theyve already given up on mass testing

cant test positive if you dont get tested!

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The23rdMagus
05/14/20 5:57:29 PM
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SodomInsane posted...
Yeah pretty much. Best to reopen. The governement isn't paying or feeding people weekly to stay home they got bills to pay. Let them work to earn and living and survive rather than let the bills pile up and end up owing 2+ month bill.
You were so close to identifying a temporary solution to the problem, then you decided the best course of action was sending everyone back into hazardous conditions.

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