Current Events > why do people pretend john mccain was a good man?

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ayane225
05/14/20 2:03:24 AM
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he was terrible.

honorable? lol
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LightningAce11
05/14/20 2:03:43 AM
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Because he died.

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Philoktetes
05/14/20 2:03:47 AM
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he fought for our freedoms in vietnam
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au_gold
05/14/20 2:04:09 AM
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He was a POW.

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fhqwhgads
05/14/20 2:04:26 AM
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He's gone bro move on

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Elmer_Glue
05/14/20 2:04:35 AM
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Compared to the current GOP, he was.
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MabusIncarnate
05/14/20 2:05:13 AM
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He's no Donald J Trump, that's for sure

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ayane225
05/14/20 2:06:32 AM
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Elmer_Glue posted...
Compared to the current GOP, he was.
thats like saying. the kkk is better than the confederacy

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Zikten
05/14/20 2:06:49 AM
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He was one of the last of the old guard of GOP before everyone got brainwashed by Trump
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ayane225
05/14/20 2:11:22 AM
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Zikten posted...
He was one of the last of the old guard of GOP before everyone got brainwashed by Trump
they werent brainwashed. its called southern. strategy.
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Pseudomenon
05/14/20 2:11:41 AM
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Elmer_Glue posted...
Compared to the current GOP, he was.

Don't let the current shitshow make the past something it wasn't.

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pegusus123456
05/14/20 2:13:16 AM
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Pseudomenon posted...
Don't let the current shitshow make the past something it wasn't.
I mean, a shit on my floor beats one in my mouth.

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Smashingpmkns
05/14/20 2:15:22 AM
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At the time of his passing it seemed like a front just so people can point out how shitty Trump is for being a piece of shit to McCain. But they both are/were shit.
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Pseudomenon
05/14/20 2:15:50 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I mean, a shit on my floor beats one in my mouth.
They've only been shitting in mouths.

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Kastrada
05/14/20 2:25:03 AM
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Why was he a bad person though? In all honesty? Everything I have known about the man was he was someone who had policies I agreed with and policies I disagreed with.

Even before his Trump feud and before his death, he seemed to me as an honest and hard-working man who wanted what was best for the country. And even though he was set in his ways about certain things, like we all are, he was willing to compromise with people.

I kinda feel the U.S. would have been better if we just had him and Obama as each other's President/Vice President. Then have had them flip positions after the first term. >_>

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CW_McGraw
05/14/20 2:55:06 AM
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I liked how he supported stricter campaign finance laws. The current system of legalized bribery is obviously bad and will inevitably undermine democracy.

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R1masher
05/14/20 3:03:39 AM
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Why do people do anything?

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Kaiganeer
05/14/20 3:04:54 AM
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cuz he's dead, it's why MJ is still revered despite being a pedophile
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JTilly
05/14/20 3:34:03 AM
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he was a piece of shit

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Vicious_Dios
05/14/20 3:40:25 AM
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Pseudomenon posted...
They've only been shitting in mouths.

You need to get yourself a better circle of friends if that's been your case.

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Garioshi
05/14/20 3:41:50 AM
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John McCain was only ever correct on torture. He was in lock step with the GOP on everything else.

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Kolibri X
05/14/20 3:46:37 AM
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Kastrada posted...
Why was he a bad person though? In all honesty?

He cheated on his wife who was wheelchair bound from a car accident while she waited years for him when he was a POW. He needed a hotter, younger wife so he could hobnob with the Reagans.

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ayane225
05/14/20 3:51:47 AM
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he even called his trophy wife a c*** in public lol
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JTilly
05/14/20 4:01:02 AM
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ayane225 posted...
he even called his trophy wife a c*** in public lol
Yes, McCain was human scum, but isnt every single one of them?

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yemmy
05/14/20 4:07:19 AM
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His daughter can't have a political discussion without bringing up her dad was John McCain and it is funny as shit.


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Southernfatman
05/14/20 5:15:59 AM
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The "reevaluation" of certain Republicans by liberals/Democrats kind of makes me sick. The bar has been set so low now that people try to make McCain, Romney, and even W. Bush to be decent people. People have lost their standards.

I think a lot of it is that some people think it only got bad because of Trump and that everything was nice, civil,and on the level before him. Certain types watched too much of The West Wing and think that was how reality was.

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Omasitor Hain
05/14/20 5:21:18 AM
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Because any one in politics will tell you, as bad as your yard is, the neighbor's is worse. So, vote...YOUR yard even if YOUR yard murderderd puppies and beat their wives. Truth.
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Mr_Rian
05/14/20 5:23:28 AM
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Omasitor Hain posted...
Because any one in politics will tell you, as bad as your yard is, the neighbor's is worse. So, vote...YOUR yard even if YOUR yard murderderd puppies and beat their wives. Truth.

That makes absolutely no sense in this topic. McCain was a Republican. Democrats weren't voting for him. But are now acting like he was a good man.
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Keith_Valentine
05/14/20 5:33:50 AM
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Hes idolized as a war hero because he got shot down as a fighter jet pilot. On the crash he broke a leg and both arms. He barely escaped from his plane as it sunk in the ocean and activated his life preserver with his teeth.

Vietnamese captured him and bayoneted and beat the shit out of him regularly. They used him as a bargaining chip because his dad was high ranking Navy. Claim to fame is they offered to release him earlier and he stayed until all his fellow men got released as well. Almost 6 years he was captive.

Then he came back to US and cheated on his parapalegic wife and divorced her. Like those other pieces of shit John Edwards and Newt Gingrich. Cant take dudes seriously when they preach about morals but jump to new pussy when they get in a position of power. McCain sold his soul.
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Kastrada
05/14/20 5:40:25 AM
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https://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/mccains-first-marriage/

I don't know. A man calling himself out for what he did, saying he was wrong for it? And the ex-wife forgiving him and still having a good relationship with him?

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Keith_Valentine
05/14/20 6:08:38 AM
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Kastrada posted...
https://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/mccains-first-marriage/

I don't know. A man calling himself out for what he did, saying he was wrong for it? And the ex-wife forgiving him and still having a good relationship with him?

I dont say his sold his soul over infidelity, i think the DC power got him. But its hard to sympathize with a man who left his loyal wife, even though she didnt bad mouth him after because she still loved him. Good woman. I get it but it is still sad all around. Maybe I am being hard on him, but when a woman is loyal to you for over a decade and you cheat on her then dump her because she cant feel below her waist. I am cold
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Turbam
05/14/20 6:10:39 AM
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He dabbed hard on his conservative buddies, and then passed away.
May he rest in peace

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lilJoe457
05/14/20 6:16:29 AM
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Yo we are actually pretending that John McCain wasn't horrible? If you seriously think Trump is worse than extreme neocon John McCain who did all he could to make sure America was in wars then you're out of your fucking mind.

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NinjaBreakfast
05/14/20 6:21:17 AM
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codey
05/14/20 6:26:24 AM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
I dont say his sold his soul over infidelity, i think the DC power got him. But its hard to sympathize with a man who left his loyal wife, even though she didnt bad mouth him after because she still loved him. Good woman. I get it but it is still sad all around. Maybe I am being hard on him, but when a woman is loyal to you for over a decade and you cheat on her then dump her because she cant feel below her waist. I am cold

Even if what you're saying, that he dumped her because she couldn't feel below the waist, I can't say I'd hold that against him. Marriages are built on more than just liking someone as a person, there's a romantic element as well. If that's gone, then what makes that person any different than close friend?

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FursonaNonGrata
05/14/20 6:30:56 AM
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He literally did bombing runs on factories for fun while in Vietnam.

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Omasitor Hain
05/14/20 6:36:13 AM
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Mr_Rian posted...


That makes absolutely no sense in this topic. McCain was a Republican. Democrats weren't voting for him. But are now acting like he was a good man.

Keep acting like that makes sense. Hahaha.
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TheHoldSteady
05/14/20 6:42:03 AM
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If it wasn't for John McCain I wouldn't have healthcare.

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Parappa09
05/14/20 6:44:00 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
https://twitter.com/immolations/status/1260595739778060290

@Parappa09
lol wtf, i don't get why there's so much love for mccain. i feel like it's only happened when he attacked trump

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Keith_Valentine
05/14/20 6:47:04 AM
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codey posted...
Even if what you're saying, that he dumped her because she couldn't feel below the waist, I can't say I'd hold that against him. Marriages are built on more than just liking someone as a person, there's a romantic element as well. If that's gone, then what makes that person any different than close friend?

He cheated on her, multiple times with multiple women, and admitted it. And she took it because she loved him. Then he kicked her ass to the curb for a much younger woman. You bring up the romantic element but in this case it is not romance, its sexual.

She gave him romance, love, passion, a child, and loyalty while before he was a prisoner and beyond. He just wanted new pussy. Tell it like it is.

** even if he fell "out of love" with her (bullshit) he could have handled it with respect your childs mother deserves. He treated her like a bitch to get his nut off
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Keith_Valentine
05/14/20 6:49:30 AM
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FursonaNonGrata posted...
He literally did bombing runs on factories for fun while in Vietnam.

For fun? He's a fucking fighter jetpilot. That was his job. He hit designated targets.
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NinjaBreakfast
05/14/20 6:50:04 AM
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Parappa09 posted...
lol wtf, i don't get why there's so much love for mccain. i feel like it's only happened when he attacked trump
i can tell you that the person who made that is 100% being ironic

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NinjaBreakfast
05/14/20 6:50:22 AM
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Keith_Valentine posted...
That was his job
clearly wasn't very good at it

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Kastrada
05/14/20 6:53:55 AM
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codey posted...
Even if what you're saying, that he dumped her because she couldn't feel below the waist, I can't say I'd hold that against him. Marriages are built on more than just liking someone as a person, there's a romantic element as well. If that's gone, then what makes that person any different than close friend?

This and also they were both going through physical therapy at the same time. Neither one could be the rock for the other. It was tough on both of them and he majorly fucked up. Both parties accept it, he himself says it's the worst thing he's done morally.

Parappa09 posted...
lol wtf, i don't get why there's so much love for mccain. i feel like it's only happened when he attacked trump

I've liked McCain since he began appearing on The Daily Show back when I was in like middle school or high school. He just always came across as an honest and open-minded person willing to have discourse with someone with opposing views.

Then again, I'm not a Democratic or Republican or affiliated with any party. And there was also things I strongly disagreed with him about. And things I strongly agreed with him about. Which is how politics should be.

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Keith_Valentine
05/14/20 6:59:39 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
clearly wasn't very good at it

Ok Trump.

Lets see you get bayoneted in the gut and beat unconscious weekly for years. Tortured. They literally broke his shoulders so bad he couldnt lift his arms above his head. Youd break in about .. 2 hours, first day. So shut the fuck up, Ninja Breakfast. They offered to let him go early multiple times and he stayed like a man till everyone got to go. He refused to participate in Vietnamese anti war propoganda and got beat half to death for it. If only in that moment, he was a hero, regardless of the drone he became.
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NinjaBreakfast
05/14/20 7:02:47 AM
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anti war propaganda...truly the worst of all

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Omasitor Hain
05/14/20 7:06:43 AM
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Tribulations alone shouldn't dictate a candidate's worth as a leader. Their current policies should, or am I fucking insane?
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Gen5_AppleJack
05/14/20 7:22:42 AM
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Why do some consider him to not be a good man?

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Keith_Valentine
05/14/20 7:23:52 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
anti war propaganda...truly the worst of all

From a nation you are at war with? To be used by an enemy country that is killing your countrymen and trying to use your status to create discord? He chose to be tortured instead. This aint fucking Jane Fonda. McCain didnt start that war, he served in it and paid the blood price.

I get it, youd sing like a bird and break, Ninja. I dont expect you to understand that level of patriotism or honor.

Omasitor Hain posted...
Tribulations alone shouldn't dictate a candidate's worth as a leader. Their current policies should, or am I fucking insane?

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Ryven
05/14/20 7:24:37 AM
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I skimmed the topic title too quickly and thought it said John McClane.

I was about to post, uh hello, Nakatomi? >_>

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