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Shablagoo
05/07/20 3:54:04 AM
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WEDNESDAY, May 6 After a hoard of armed and angry protesters swarmed Lansing last week, State Rep. Sarah Anthony brought some extra protection on her way to the State Capitol today.

At least three African Americans carrying large rifles escorted Anthony across Capitol Avenue earlier this morning so she could safely attend committee meetings without fear of intimidation. She said she didnt necessarily request the help, but welcomed the extra security nonetheless.

We were all just appalled by the lack of support and lack of security that I had, that other legislators had, and the fact that a lot of the demonstrators last week were adorning many racist, anti-Semitic signage. I think it just triggered a lot of folks, especially African Americans.

Anthony and other lawmakers met this morning for an appropriations committee meeting. The scene was quiet. Anthonys cadre of Second Amendment advocates had no trouble entering the building. They left to quietly stand on the front steps after Anthony made it inside an elevator.

We want to change the narrative, first of all. We want people to understand that people of color can come out here with guns just the same as anybody else can, said Michael Lynn Jr., a black Lansing firefighter and community activist who helped organize Anthonys security detail.

Lynn watched a video that Anthony posted to Facebook as the protest formed last week. In it, she looked on from her office across the street as protestors slowly crowded the Capitol Lawn carrying Confederate flags, Nazi symbolism, nooses and other blatantly racist forms of imagery.

After some demonstrators eventually made it inside the building last week, one maskless and gun-toting protester got so close to Anthonys face that she could smell his breath. And lawmakers shouldnt be scared to come into work because of armed intimidation, she said.

The majority of the protesters were white, Anthony said. Im still not exactly sure on the connection between confederate flags and Nazi symbolism. They just had no connection to the stay-at-home orders. The fact they were carrying guns openly while we voted was unnerving.

Anthonys concerns are largely based on a complete failure of the Michigan State Police to maintain adequate security, she explained. She didnt find out until this week that police could have escorted her to her car after she left the Capitol. No other security measures were mentioned.

It was just unnerving to me as a woman and as a person, Anthony said, noting that Capitol sergeants otherwise do an adequate job keeping lawmakers inside safe. These community volunteers today wont be needed all the time, but they wanted to have a presence today.

Because Lynn is black, he suspects that cops wouldve been a bit more cautious and perhaps violent had his group been as boisterous as some of the crowds last week. He wanted to prove a point that Second Amendment rights arent limited on the basis of race.

I could hear the fear in her voice during that protest, Lynn explained. It was the visual of her being that scared to go to work. It meant we had to do something. We came out here today to make sure we could provide some protection, even if its only just to make her feel better.

Meanwhile, the Michigan Capitol Commission is exploring whether guns should be banned inside the Capitol, according to the Detroit Free Press. The long-standing practice of allowing open carry inside the building came under national scrutiny after last weeks demonstrations.

Some lawmakers wore bulletproof vests as protesters eventually made their way inside the gallery. Even some Republican lawmakers like Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey chided the protesters. Shirkey said a few acted like jackasses last Thursday afternoon.

Its still unclear whether the commission has the authority to restrict firearms inside the building or whether that would mandate an adjustment to state law. Regardless, the issue is an electric one. The Second Amendment cant be easily infringed without the possibility of violent backlash.

And despite the contradictory nature of todays armed escort, both Anthony and Lynn are vehemently opposed to allowing open carry inside the Capitol. Theyre just exercising their rights as they stand and ensuring an even playing field for everyone to get involved, they said.

There are certain things that are just inappropriate, Lynn added. We dont take guns in the courthouse. We dont take guns into city hall. Why would we take guns of this caliber into the Capitol? I have 150 rounds on me right now. I could make terror. This could wreak havoc.

Lynn said hed have no qualms should rules or laws eventually prohibit guns inside the Capitol. Until then, its his right. Anthony supports a complete ban on firearms inside the Capitol outside of law enforcement. At the very least, only concealed carry should be allowable, she explained.

I will be advocating for a change, at the very least, to ban open carry inside the building. For one, its more intimidating. Obviously, we have a right to bear arms, but concealed would be easier. I dont think we need to be intimidated with large firearms while were doing our jobs.



https://www.lansingcitypulse.com/stories/armed-citizens-escort-lawmaker-into-michigan-state-capitol,14339


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CobraGT
05/07/20 4:09:28 AM
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I do not believe in answering violence with violence but

They pulled it off
They showed those demonstrators something
The State Senator felt less intimidated.

This said Anthony and Lynn failed to take the moral high ground.

If it was I doing it I would have gotten advice from someone who could tell me a better way of accomplishing above. I cannot think of a better way but I know people who could.

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DarthAragorn
05/07/20 4:10:40 AM
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CobraGT posted...
I do not believe in answering violence with violence but

They pulled it off
They showed those demonstrators something
The State senator felt less intimidated.

This said Anthony and Lynn failed to take the moral high ground.

If it was I doing it I would have gotten advice from someone who could tell me a better way of accomplishing above. I cannot think of a better way but I know people who could.

That's bullshit because they're not overtly racist shitbags so they automatically have the moral high ground here
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CobraGT
05/07/20 4:21:27 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
That's bullshit because they're not overtly racist shitbags so they automatically have the moral high ground here

No the only thing automatic is your refusal to accept what I pointed out.

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Blue_Dream87
05/07/20 4:23:33 AM
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Fuck yeah. Minorities need to be armed and fuck anyone who tells them they can't defend themselves

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bknight
05/07/20 4:26:10 AM
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Well, I'm off to DC to provide a private escort for AOC, notice me senpai.
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Shablagoo
05/07/20 4:32:29 AM
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bknight posted...
Well, I'm off to DC to provide a private escort for AOC, notice me senpai.



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SiO4
05/07/20 4:38:01 AM
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This reminds me so much of Norman Rockwell, painting, The Problem We All Live With.

I'll post a wiki link, mods have mercy, it is a historical painting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Problem_We_All_Live_With
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Tactical_Spork
05/07/20 4:59:13 AM
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CobraGT posted...
I do not believe in answering violence with violence but

They pulled it off
They showed those demonstrators something
The State Senator felt less intimidated.

This said Anthony and Lynn failed to take the moral high ground.

If it was I doing it I would have gotten advice from someone who could tell me a better way of accomplishing above. I cannot think of a better way but I know people who could.
lol fuck off

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Blue_Dream87
05/07/20 5:13:00 AM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
lol fuck off

For real. What the fuck are you gonna do to a bunch of armed white people threatening you? Hold out an olive branch? Worked for the natives

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Shablagoo
05/07/20 5:20:05 AM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
For real. What the fuck are you gonna do to a bunch of armed white people threatening you? Hold out an olive branch? Worked for the natives

His post is especially absurd right now with this story front-and-center in the news cycle:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/black-man-shot-dead-while-jogging-southeast-georgia-two-months-n1196621

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Iodine
05/07/20 5:27:46 AM
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Yeah there needs to be more of this.

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CobraGT
05/07/20 3:58:58 PM
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Tactical_Spork posted...
lol fuck off

lol You see enemies all over the place. lol

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The_Bitcoin
05/07/20 4:28:03 PM
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Black vs white people, both with guns.

this is how civil wars begin. MAGA is destroying our nation
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FursonaNonGrata
05/07/20 4:30:28 PM
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Time for people to start saying insanely stupid shit like "Wow this is morally wrong to meet violence with violence" and "they should have taken the high road" while also pretending they aren't racist at all

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The23rdMagus
05/07/20 4:32:17 PM
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I'm conflicted. Yes, turnabout is fair play, and the reasoning's definitely sound, but I don't think anyone should be armed inside a government building. I don't think armed protest is inherently a peaceable assembly at this point. The guns are there to send a message.

And yeah, I know that the escort isn't a protest. Ultimately, I approve, but I worry.

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Antifar
05/07/20 4:33:51 PM
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God bless
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Musourenka
05/07/20 4:36:36 PM
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Excellent.

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Funbazooka
05/07/20 4:38:02 PM
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Was there anyone even protesting there yesterday?

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Duncanwii
05/07/20 4:38:26 PM
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Violence is never ok for any reason

But they still need to reopen the country.

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The_Bitcoin
05/07/20 4:39:47 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Violence is never ok for any reason

But they still need to reopen the country.

@Duncanwii could you explain us the legal, health and economical consequences of opening up and not opening up?
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Duncanwii
05/07/20 4:52:44 PM
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The_Bitcoin posted...
@Duncanwii could you explain us the legal, health and economical consequences of opening up and not opening up?
Economical is easy. Since keeping closed is destroying the economy and threatening a second great depression, it's in everyone's best interests we do not let that happen.

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ghettoraider81
05/07/20 4:55:44 PM
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Conservative shitbags will show their true coward colors once they realize liberals, and minorities have guns too.

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E32005
05/07/20 4:56:53 PM
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CobraGT posted...
I cannot think of a better way but I know people who could.
what kinda soft ass shit is this?


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ScazarMeltex
05/07/20 4:58:16 PM
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The_Bitcoin posted...
Black vs white people, both with guns.

this is how civil wars begin. MAGA is destroying our nation
Better than one side being armed and the other not. That's how genocides happen. And yes MAGA is destroying this country.

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Duncanwii
05/07/20 4:59:09 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
So what happens if we open everything back up and a second wave of infections hit, thus resulting in shutdowns and further straining Healthcare systems?
That one is also easy. We just dont shut down again since the first time was such a strain on resources.

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deupd_u
05/07/20 4:59:15 PM
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Wow, look at how """large""" those rifles are!

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The23rdMagus
05/07/20 4:59:57 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
That one is also easy. We just dont shut down again since the first time was such a strain on resources.
Dude. The implied mentality of "letting the weak die off" generally has another term: eugenics. Careful with that.

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OmegaShinkai
05/07/20 5:00:36 PM
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Just think, if resources are strained any further, Duncan's local Subway might close!
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HBKick18
05/07/20 5:02:03 PM
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now we just wait for the security to be labeled as terrorists or thugs

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DevsBro
05/07/20 5:04:38 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
She said she didnt necessarily request the help
The hell is this supposed to even mean

Journalism talk I swear

You say not necessarily when you're pointing out a fringe possibility, not when you freaking already know

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Duncanwii
05/07/20 5:06:55 PM
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The23rdMagus posted...
Dude. The implied mentality of "letting the weak die off" generally has another term: eugenics. Careful with that.
Nah, not Eugenics. We can figure out ways to protect the weak without inconveniencing the rest of the population.

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berlyman101
05/07/20 5:07:12 PM
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DevsBro posted...
The hell is this supposed to even mean

Journalism talk I swear

You say not necessarily when you're pointing out a fringe possibility, not when you freaking already know

they reported what she said, which is what they're supposed to do. regular people hedge and obfuscate all the time.

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DevsBro
05/07/20 5:09:19 PM
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berlyman101 posted...
they reported what she said, which is what they're supposed to do. regular people hedge and obfuscate all the time.
The word "necessarily" doesn't appear in any direct quote. You don't know whose word it is, and regardless it isn't appropriate.

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Funbazooka
05/07/20 5:10:56 PM
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It's absolutely fine for them to escort her. I just don't see the necessity when you consider the massive protests happened a week ago. I guess it's more of a symbolic gesture than anything. And it does make for a great photo op.

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The23rdMagus
05/07/20 5:15:04 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Nah, not Eugenics. We can figure out ways to protect the weak without inconveniencing the rest of the population.
If we could, I have a feeling we would've by now.

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FigureOfSpeech
05/07/20 5:15:09 PM
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Duncanwii posted...

Nah, not Eugenics. We can figure out ways to protect the weak without inconveniencing the rest of the population.


Is this based on actual ideas you have for how that might be done realistically and feasibly, which could be reasonably implemented? Or is it just an idealized Duncan fantasy that you are just stating you wish to become a reality? I'm just curious because you seem to be presenting it as a certainty rather than a hypothetical...
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Gen5_AppleJack
05/07/20 5:27:41 PM
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Good on them, our government officials are just as entitled to the 2nd Amendment.

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