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Time_Rider posted...

Moving the goalposts? Lol ok.

I'm pointing out you're wrong about the game being easy because you are still on level one. Why don't you understand why that is ignorant?

Who should TC listen to? Me, experienced, at endgame who is saying the game is difficult for people not familiar, or you, a person who is on level one saying it is easy?

But sure, give TC more incorrect opinions, that's useful

I literally finished the game that TC is talking about and played some more with the extra Lunastra free DLC, but youre going off on endgame? You gonna tell TC he should stay away from DOTA 2 because hell never make it to the pro league?

TC, try out all the weapons for a bit, to see which ones you like best. Stick to a couple and learn them inside and out. Dont forget to upgrade your armor and pay attention to the resistances. When youre tracking monsters, youll learn what resistances to protect against and which ones they are vulnerable to. Barring little details like cooking, you should be fine.

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Gheb posted...

SnS is a great weapon. It provides great mobility and safety allowing you to be constantly on the offensive. You might not get the giant damage numbers from a Great Sword or Hammer and you won't have the DPS that the gunner weapons give*, but it is super fun.

*Perfect Rush combo turns SnS into a monster weapon, but I can't remember if that addition is Iceborne only or if it also got added to the base game.

He's also ignoring the fact that you can heal quickly due to not having to sheathe your weapon to pop an item. SNS is an excellent beginning weapon.

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Playing multiplayer is a ton of fun but I would fight the temptation to do every quest multiplayer. Learning to hunt solo is important and hunting solo is considerably more lucrative from a money perspective.

I played through the entire game solo. A bunch of my friends picked it up a few months later and basically did the whole thing multiplayer and were constantly complaining that they lacked the cash to upgrade things, a problem I never had because I wasn't splitting the prize money 4 ways every quest.

Eventually you'll get to a point where money is completely meaningless because you'll have 20 million zenny, but it can be a struggle in the beginning if you multiplayer a bunch.

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Time_Rider posted...

He's also ignoring the fact that you can heal quickly due to not having to sheathe your weapon to pop an item.

Or he forgot. Jesus chill

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Hexenherz posted...

I was really expecting a more open world experience, was kind of disappointed that it feels based off of instanced grinding right off the bat. Lost interest after that :\ Also the combat felt kind of clunky.

Same. Returned it after about an hour.

Dark Souls > Scum Hunter.

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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

I literally finished the game that TC is talking about and played some more with the extra Lunastra free DLC, but youre going off on endgame? You gonna tell TC he should stay away from DOTA 2 because hell never make it to the pro league?

TC, try out all the weapons for a bit, to see which ones you like best. Stick to a couple and learn them inside and out. Dont forget to upgrade your armor and pay attention to the resistances. When youre tracking monsters, youll learn what resistances to protect against and which ones they are vulnerable to. Barring little details like cooking, you should be fine.

Again, ignore this person's opinion about the game being easy.

Lorenzo, go turn on the game right now and tell me how long it takes you to beat AT Nergigante. It is available at your level.

I'm just kidding because I don't think you can beat it at all. Go ahead, go try it. You'll cart every time in and fail within five minutes

Don't say shit is easy when you are at the beginning and can't even finish that content.


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The bow is the easiest weapon class. Does great dps, has great mobility and you don't have to sharpen it LMAO

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ApherosyLove posted...

Or he forgot. Jesus chill

If he forgot the major mechanic of a weapon then he shouldn't be giving advice about it. Do you agree?

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Time_Rider posted...

If he forgot the major mechanic of a weapon then he shouldn't be giving advice about it. Do you agree?

Dude I'm ass at the game but I can at least give a few pointers

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Time_Rider posted...

Again, ignore this person's opinion about the game being easy.

Lorenzo, go turn on the game right now and tell me how long it takes you to beat AT Nergigante. It is available at your level.

I'm just kidding because I don't think you can beat it at all. Go ahead, go try it. You'll cart every time in and fail within five minutes

Don't say shit is easy when you are at the beginning and can't even finish that content.

Again, that doesnt matter at all to what TC is talking about. Hes not even going to face Nergigante until the end, which by then he will understand the mechanics better. Youre just mad because youre at endgame and thats different from TC needs to know to play where hes at.

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can you two put aside your stupid little argument, my god this shit is silly

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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Again, that doesnt matter at all to what TC is talking about. Hes not even going to face Nergigante until the end, which by then he will understand the mechanics better. Youre just mad because youre at endgame and thats different from TC needs to know to play where hes at.

Why do you think I'm mad? Oh yeah, "why u mad" is a go-to when people got nothing. I almost forgot.

The point is your are incorrect and can't even finish content you are declaring easy. Stay in your lane is appropriate here.

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MC_BatCommander posted...

can you two put aside your stupid little argument, my god this shit is silly

Nope, not going to let bad advice about this game go unchecked.

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May I suggest the greatsword?
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spanky1 posted...

May I suggest the greatsword?

It does wonderful things against the horns in the brand new MR Kulve hunt.

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Holy shit lmao this is the most inane argument ever

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ApherosyLove posted...

Holy shit lmao this is the most inane argument ever

Do you think people should call shit they can't do "easy"?

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Do you have Iceborne or no, TC? My favorite MH weapon by far are Hunting Horns, they were kind of weak in the base game but got a huge upgrade in Iceborne making them much better off when it comes to doing damage solo.

Dont be afraid to look up weapon tutorials to figure out how to use weapons. They may have certain mechanics that arent obvious from just using them in the training room.

If youre undecided, try gunlance. It takes very few weapon skills to do optimal damage, so you can pile on a bunch of defensive skills so you dont die as easily. You also have the second best shield in the game, and using evade extender to dodge and move around can teach you about good positioning thatll be relevant to other weapon play styles too.

MorganTJ posted...

Dont be afraid to look up weapon tutorials to figure out how to use weapons. They may have certain mechanics that arent obvious from just using them in the training room.

If youre undecided, try gunlance. It takes very few weapon skills to do optimal damage, so you can pile on a bunch of defensive skills so you dont die as easily. You also have the second best shield in the game, and using evade extender to dodge and move around can teach you about good positioning thatll be relevant to other weapon play styles too.

And, importantly, blowing shit up is fun.

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Gunlance is my favorite weapon but imo it can be hard to start with because you'll be limited to like level 2 or 3 shelling and although few skills are needed, you likely won't have easy access to the few mandatory ones like Artillery 3 or Capacity Up.
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A little advice about the SnS. The basic attacks are very quick and low-commitment, and sheathing is blindingly fast to make it easy to get out of there quickly when you need to. With just basic pokes, however, you'll probably be doing less damage than with basically any other weapon. The key to unlocking your damage potential is with the backstep combo. I'm not sure of the commands on PC but it can be done after most actions (including a quick guard tap), and comboing it into Falling Bash or Perfect Rush (I'm also not sure whether this is available in base MHW or is Iceborne only) will do you a nice chunk of damage quickly. These moves are both fairly difficult to perform and require some practice.

I have a few other basic suggestions. You'll probably want to use the canteen before every quest to pump up your health for the mission. This gives you a fair amount of extra leeway in your fights. On that note I also wouldn't worry a great deal about the skills on armor until you're deeper into the game, but one skill to really keep an eye on is Health Boost. You can stack up to 3 levels of it, and it will probably give you the most bang for the buck of any skill in the game as you're starting out. Stacking canteen health with Health Boost health will give you a better chance to hang in there and trade blows with monsters you don't know. Also because it may not be intuitive, a monster's body is made up of several different hitzones. A key to doing more damage is to focus your attacks on a particular hitzone rather than swinging wildly. For something like sword and shield you want to make as many of your attacks count as you can, so try to be mindful of the damage numbers and concentrate your attacks on the areas you're doing more damage to.

NotYou posted...

On that note I also wouldn't worry a great deal about the skills on armor until you're deeper into the game, but one skill to really keep an eye on is Health Boost. You can stack up to 3 levels of it, and it will probably give you the most bang for the buck of any skill in the game as you're starting out.

Divine Blessing can also be so helpful for learning things in early game. I ended up making a set with both HB and DB way back in early MHW times to use for monster pattern learning. Not trying to kill them, just going into a mission and watching and dodging and learning patterns until I'd been carted twice and then abandoning.

ETA: As another tip for the TC that this just made me think about, using the arena missions to learn monster patterns is waaaaaaaaaaay more convenient than doing it in normal missions.

Pinky if you take one piece of advice from me for this entire topic

use the weapon you want to use and dont let any CEmen, youtuber or even your grandma tell ya different

Dont shy away from a weapon because it might seem complicated at first. Youre learning everything from the ground up anyway, it might just take you a little longer to learn that weapon over another.

there are enough guides on YouTube you can follow if you wanna learn the more complicated mechanics.

Practice, take down low level monsters and work your way up.

The thing that all weapons have in common though is that the combat revolves around finding your openings to attack the monster. Because every weapon is different, and some are faster than others. Learn the monsters patterns first then as you become more familiar wi Th The weapons youll recognize where your attacks can fit in.

The thing about Monster Hunter is you can ply it anyway you want. You dont have to min/max your damage and Armor skills. Especially in early game, all that stuff youll learn along the way you can start building towards certain playstyles

But some people play this game in a fashionsouls sense and could give a shit about maximizing their damage or defence. That works too.

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Time_Rider posted...

No, he's right, your advice is bad. Experiment with weapons, don't stick with just one till endgame lol. That could literally be hundreds of hours away.

Theres plenty of time to experiment with new weapons post game so why waste time doing it during the main game? During which you're also missing out on a vast majoirty of the games real content, especially the timed events.

And who's taking hundreds of hours to beat the main story? You are aware that you arent making any real progress in regards to optimization right? Which is the entire point of the the game and its replayability.

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Prismsblade posted...

Theres plenty of time to experiment with new weapons post game so why waste time doing it during the main game? During which you're also missing out on a vast majoirty of the games real content, especially the timed events.

And who's taking hundreds of hours to beat the main story? You are aware that you arent making any real progress in regards to optimization right? Which is the entire point of the the game and its replayability.

No matter how you spin it, it's bad advice to tell people to stick with one weapon until they reach endgame in this massive game that has 14 different styles. And yes, it can easily take hundreds of hours going through the main story, most people don't rush and actually farm shit. You are not missing out on anything in taking all the time you want to progress, nor are you missing any events, that's not true at all.

It's just a bad take, and your explanation doesn't help it any.

Don't listen to this guy and experiment with weapons at your own pace and leisure.

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Time_Rider posted...

No matter how you spin it, it's bad advice to tell people to stick with one weapon until they reach endgame in this massive game that has 14 different styles. And yes, it can easily take hundreds of hours going through the main story, most people don't rush and actually farm shit. You are not missing out on anything in taking all the time you want to progress, nor are you missing any events, that's not true at all.

It's just a bad take, and your explanation doesn't help it any.

Don't listen to this guy and experiment with weapons at your own pace and leisure.

Except that's what the vast majority of players do, they generally experiment initially, find their favorite weapon and stick with it for the vast majority until post game when they finally feel comfortable and start(maybe) branching out.

And farming what exactly? This games main source of fun and replayability is farming and optimization. The best of which are locked behind endgame/post game. So you gain NOTHING for dicking around the main game for hundreds of hours.

MH is kinda like pokemon where the real game and fun doeasnt start until post game and everything prior is kind of just a obstacle until then.


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I went into it completely blind, I hardly knew anything about the series. It was initially intimidating, but it didn't matter because I never played anything like it, and went into it with 2 other friends co-op that never played it either. We played for 5+ hours a night, and eventually it turned into about 500 hours of gameplay. One of my favorite gaming experiences ever. I loved every minute of it. They just released an expansion that I haven't even touched and just typing this makes me want to go back.

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Dudes.

I will NEVER endorse the arguments that people have to rush to endgame and that those early game hours are essentially pointless.

This is literally one of the worst takes in gaming, its toxic as fuck and so many gamers are guilty of pushing this agenda on so many different games.

What youre essentially saying is

Stick with one weapon whether you like it or not until it becomes a chore. None of that matters. You need to get to the part of the game where youve seen and accomplished most things, then, and only then, when the main thing left to do is grind, then you have time to experiment.

Dude I straight PITY you if thats your outlook on games. I really fuckin do. Theres nothing sadder to me than not appreciating hours, possibly hundreds of hours of story and content, because of some arbitrary race to endgame. Because as if the tier of weapons and amor you have access to is YOUR ONLY BASELINE OF FUN.

Yall really need to take a step back and possibly re-examine how you approach video games.

There is no rush, no timeline to be at endgame oh he might miss some event thats happening right now? Well hes missed how many events since the game released? Who fuckin cares. I mean Im not saying there isnt value to endgame. What I am saying is if you cant stop and appreciate the road to get there...Huge yikes from me I might as well hire a sky writer to paint it over your house.

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Anyone who tells beginners the "correct" way to play is talking out their ass.

The nice thing about MH is it's at your pace. Grab a weapon, try to kill something. If it died you did good. If not, try something else.

All there is to it. In a way, it's very forgiving as long as you are down to experiment.

SwayM posted...

What youre essentially saying is

Stick with one weapon whether you like it or not until it becomes a chore.

I never said that so gtfo with this shit. Experimenting until you find your favorite vs sticking with a random wep until endgame are two completely different statements.

SwayM posted...

Dude I straight PITY you if thats your outlook on games. I really f***in do. Theres nothing sadder to me than not appreciating hours, possibly hundreds of hours of story and content, because of some arbitrary race to endgame. Because as if the tier of weapons and amor you have access to is YOUR ONLY BASELINE OF FUN.

And why dont I appreciate it? Maybe because its garbage. MH similar to pokemon are just the type of the fanchise where the story and main game are largely irrelevant, same as your pathetic attempts to mock and shame me. I still had a blast minus having to waste 100s of hours on irrelevant shit.

SwayM posted...

There is no rush, no timeline to be at endgame oh he might miss some event thats happening right now? Well hes missed how many events since the game released? Who f***in cares. I mean Im not saying there isnt value to endgame. What I am saying is if you cant stop and appreciate the road to get there...Huge yikes from me I might as well hire a sky writer to paint it over your house.

Except that's where the bulk of the player base and fun is at. Becuase this fanchise is all about farming and optimization. And you can always return to the main game to complete its content whenever with better weapons, gear and skills. That's what I did and it didnt diminish my experience in the slightest. Hell most of those monsters you want me to waste hundreds of hours on arent even worth farming by then, lmao.


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Don't listen to this dude TC, lol. His take is clearly very unpopular.

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Prismsblade posted...

Becuase this fanchise is all about farming and optimization.

Well this is exactly what this boils down to.

See the funny thing is the franchise gives away exactly what its about right in the title. Monster Hunting. Thats what youre doing. Taking down some kaiju with some comically large anime weapons.

Thats literally it my friends. Anything more than that is what you take away from the series and what you enjoy doing.

To dismiss the early game entirely and tell a new player to not give a shit about it is just sad man.

Ive put like 800 hours into MHW. No amount of hours on top of that 800 will recreate the feelings I had learning the controls and the weapons, exploring the world and having the combat and everything click into place like it did for me in the beginning.

Im not writing any praise for the story and its definitely not winning awards from me but again, Im never going to tell a new player to dismiss it either. I hope that every new player in any game can take their time to appreciate the content the creators made, not just the endgame shit.

Do you remember creating your first word in Minecraft? Thats what its like. When youre discovering a game from the inside out should be an exciting feeling and should be appreciated because you will never get that back.

And to come in with this endgame mentality and say hey look forward to grinding because thats what you need to race to is a dreadful, sad outlook on this hobby bro.

Did you know theyre making a movie?



Now, regardless of how good this movie ends up being, what do you think its going to be about ?

Hunting monsters with stupid large weapons, as this poster implies? Or 2 hours and 47 minutes of Milla Jovovich cutting pelts off of Pukei-Pukei?

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SwayM posted...

Or 2 hours and 47 minutes of Milla Jovovich cutting pelts off of Pukei-Pukei?

MH fans would still watch it

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ApherosyLove posted...

MH fans would still watch it

They would. And be praying for a rare drop the entire time.

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SwayM posted...

They would. And be praying for a rare drop the entire time.

Haha touche

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