Current Events > 5G leading to coronavirus pandemic?

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No.
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Nah, there's probably something bad about 5G but it ain't that.

Like does Italy even have 5G?

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V-E-G-Y- posted...

No.

You... actually fooled me with one.

Well played, Vegy.

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KillerSlaw posted...

Nah, there's probably something bad about 5G but it ain't that.

Like does Italy even have 5G?

Probably not, and the conspiracy people will come up with another crazy thing to explain the inconsistency

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KillerSlaw posted...

Nah, there's probably something bad about 5G but it ain't that.

Like does Italy even have 5G?

Or China?

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The fact that YouTube is taking down videos on the topic is incredibly suspicious.
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PickleRick2017 posted...

The fact that YouTube is taking down videos on the topic is incredibly suspicious.

Because it has sparked idiots in England to start attacking the polls. It's blatant misinformation, and only exists to cause rifts. It's probably another theory that's being pushed by Russian bots

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PickleRick2017 posted...

The fact that YouTube is taking down videos on the topic is incredibly suspicious.

Taking down obvious misinformation is suspicious to no one but the most incredibly gullible and paranoid.

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Of course not.

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the only seemingly legitimate thing I've seen against 5G is that it might interfere with weather satellites because of the frequencies they use

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averagejoel posted...

the only seemingly legitimate thing I've seen against 5G is that it might interfere with weather satellites because of the frequencies they use

Even that doesn't seem to be a legitimate concern, imo. The complaint I've read about that is that the frequency is near the frequency that water vapor vibrates at, but... being near the frequency means it won't interfere. It would actually have to overlap.

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PickleRick2017 posted...

The fact that YouTube is taking down videos on the topic is incredibly suspicious.

They've been taking down all videos related to Coronavirus IIRC

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no thats stupid

but 5g waves are making the frogs gay.

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My friend told me 5G would turn reality into a controlled simulation.

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PickleRick2017 posted...

The fact that YouTube is taking down videos on the topic is incredibly suspicious.

You should be far more suspicious of YouTube than to believing 5g has anything to do with this virus.

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I don't think it's accurate but I also don't think the government and companies like YouTube should be taking down videos. Let people watch the videos and decide for themselves. If the info is wrong, then convince the people through words why it's wrong rather than censoring the source. We are so laaaaAZZZZY these days we don't even want to properly dismantle arguments we just want to the quickest solution.

YellowMustard69 posted...

I don't think it's accurate but I also don't think the government and companies like YouTube should be taking down videos. Let people watch the videos and decide for themselves. If the info is wrong, then convince the people through words why it's wrong rather than censoring the source. We are so laaaaAZZZZY these days we don't even want to properly dismantle arguments we just want to the quickest solution.

Heres the issue with that. Information can be manipulated and warped, which is essentially propaganda at that point. Content created specifically to sway people to believe something thats unequivocally FALSE.

I think its far more dangerous to allow that crap, than it is to suppress it.

Are either scenarios ideal? Hell no.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Heres the issue with that. Information can be manipulated and warped, which is essentially propaganda at that point. Content created specifically to sway people to believe something thats unequivocally FALSE.

I think its far more dangerous to allow that crap, than it is to suppress it.

Are either scenarios ideal? Hell no.

But how are people supposed to know that what is being censored is wrong without just automatically trusting those that censor it?

GrandConjuraton posted...

Taking down obvious misinformation is suspicious to no one but the most incredibly gullible and paranoid.

Exactly. We don't have time for bullshit.

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Talk2DaHand posted...

Exactly. We don't have time for bullshit.

It's not about suspicion. It's about letting ideas exist and letting them be crushed or propped up as necessary by the people.

Virus related? Unlikely.

5G being a problem? More than likely. Frequencies, even the ones we can't detect, can have some serious effects on living things. The universe all stems from vibrations and movement of energy in ways we don't understand.

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YellowMustard69 posted...

But how are people supposed to know that what is being censored is wrong without just automatically trusting those that censor it?

I dont have an answer for you there. Thats the Catch-22. Thats the issue when technology evolves to where it is now.

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Maybe this is the 5g companies pushing this conspiracy out with tons of bots to discredit anyone who talks about 5g as a conspiracy of any kind

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KillerSlaw posted...

Like does Italy even have 5G?

Yes, actually. Testing began last year as early as July. Vodafone is providing and is working on 50 towers. Telecom Italia aims to have 150 up before the end of the year. Dunno where Iliad or Wind Tre is at, but yeah, Italy hopped on this train pretty early.

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Lunar_Savage posted...

Virus related? Unlikely.

5G being a problem? More than likely. Frequencies, even the ones we can't detect, can have some serious effects on living things. The universe all stems from vibrations and movement of energy in ways we don't understand.

We do understand that the frequency that 5G uses doesn't have enough energy to ionize molecules. Ionizing radiation is what causes health problems.

My problem with 5G is that it can't penetrate walls whatsoever

Rexdragon125 posted...

We do understand that the frequency that 5G uses doesn't have enough energy to ionize molecules. Ionizing radiation is what causes health problems.

My problem with 5G is that it can't penetrate walls whatsoever

Yeah, I remember reading about the wall thing, but my understanding was to get around this they pushed for more locations/devices to be present throughout buildings. That seems like a costly undertaking that I don't fully understand the push for.

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Rexdragon125 posted...

We do understand that the frequency that 5G uses doesn't have enough energy to ionize molecules. Ionizing radiation is what causes health problems.

My problem with 5G is that it can't penetrate walls whatsoever

Given how 5G waves are absorbed by water, I'm gonna need studies to prove it's not harmless before I can be confident in its safety. I've already heard talks about how you shouldn't sleep with your phone in the same room as you and 5G obviously operates on a stronger wavelength.

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Sad_Face posted...

Given how 5G waves are absorbed by water, I'm gonna need studies to prove it's not harmless before I can be confident in its safety. I've already heard talks about how you shouldn't sleep with your phone in the same room as you and 5G obviously operates on a stronger wavelength.

It will warm you up by an imperceptible amount? It's just physics, it would work like a microwave. You might even feel slightly warmer if you were standing right in front of a tower's transmitter.

Rexdragon125 posted...

It will warm you up by an imperceptible amount? It's just physics, it would work like a microwave. You might even feel slightly warmer if you were standing right in front of a tower's transmitter.

So we're cooking from the inside...yeah, that would explain cancer pockets near cell towers and perhaps strange blemishes to the body...possibly boils too or all kinds of other nasty things to the internal bits of your body.

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Lunar_Savage posted...

So we're cooking from the inside...yeah, that would explain cancer pockets near cell towers and perhaps strange blemishes to the body...possibly boils too or all kinds of other nasty things to the internal bits of your body.

That's not how any of this works

http://www.ncradiation.net/NonIonizing/Images/EM-spectrum.png

Ionizing radiation causes cancer from breaking down DNA molecules. Non-ionizing radiation doesn't have enough energy to break down molecules.

5G was developed by a PETA & Vegan Association collaboration with the goal of showing the world how it feels to be an animal in our society

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people want answers and they fill in the blanks about the coronavirus. so some observed changes because of stability - it didnt happen before this and that becomes the possible reason why.

it may sound too far to consider but this is how some process the data. the time and place of the event is too close together so its concluded thats the reason. such a change in life can only be explained by following major changes to find the reasoning they know too little about, this coronavirus and the 5G network

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Rexdragon125 posted...

That's not how any of this works

http://www.ncradiation.net/NonIonizing/Images/EM-spectrum.png

Ionizing radiation causes cancer from breaking down DNA molecules. Non-ionizing radiation doesn't have enough energy to break down molecules.

I understand all that. But I believe you're operating on the idea they're telling the truth. I was coming from a standpoint of them lying to us about the waves.

I always would like to believe they're telling the truth and that you're right that 5G is harmless and people are freaking out over nothing.

But, hope for the best and plan for the worst seems wiser, I think. Also, I find it hard and somewhat foolish to just summarily dismiss all the concerns as fear of change.

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Lunar_Savage posted...

I understand all that. But I believe you're operating on the idea they're telling the truth. I was coming from a standpoint of them lying to us about the waves.

I always would like to believe they're telling the truth and that you're right that 5G is harmless and people are freaking out over nothing.

But, hope for the best and plan for the worst seems wiser, I think. Also, I find it hard and somewhat foolish to just summarily dismiss all the concerns as fear of change.

... It's well established science. You know, the knowledge that lets us build cell phones and stuff in the first place lol

Rexdragon125 posted...

... It's well established science. You know, the knowledge that lets us build cell phones and stuff in the first place lol

I'm not arguing what's been proven. I'm arguing what's yet to be proven, and can you say you really know exactly what the devices are outputting at all times and that there have been no modifications whether with the physical hardware or a change in frequency (if the devices are capable of that?).

I remember when the virus thing hit, cell companies started activating empty unused satellite hardware to expand the reach of cell signals and keep speeds running efficiently for the increased activity from everyone staying home all day. I certainly wasn't aware they had it, I doubt many others were either.

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Lunar_Savage posted...

I'm not arguing what's been proven. I'm arguing what's yet to be proven, and can you say you really know exactly what the devices are outputting at all times and that there have been no modifications whether with the physical hardware or a change in frequency (if the devices are capable of that?).

You'd need fundamentally different hardware to emit radically different bands of radio waves. It's the difference between radio transmitters, light bulbs, and x-ray machines. If radio transmitters changed frequency randomly then radio communication wouldn't work.

Rexdragon125 posted...

You'd need fundamentally different hardware to emit radically different bands of radio waves. It's the difference between radio transmitters, light bulbs, and x-ray machines. If radio transmitters changed frequency randomly then radio communication wouldn't work.

So, back to my hardware point then...

What's really being installed? I made a point earlier that there's a huge push to get around the weakness of the signal pushing through walls that doesn't make sense as the proposal of heavily equipping buildings everywhere can't even remotely be feasible (even if you get companies to pay for the building installations out of their own pocket). While it's obviously a profit thing, it would also make sense that to avoid future costs, they start installing devices to help future improvements to be possible on the cheap.

Unless you want to get really crazy and convoluted and say its a mass evil conspiracy to have us all self-install and pay for equipment that will kill/control us. You wanna talk deep end? That's deep end, and even I'm not ready to pull that trigger.

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Lunar_Savage posted...

What's really being installed? I made a point earlier that there's a huge push to get around the weakness of the signal pushing through walls that doesn't make sense as the proposal of heavily equipping buildings everywhere can't even remotely be feasible (even if you get companies to pay for the building installations out of their own pocket). While it's obviously a profit thing, it would also make sense that to avoid future costs, they start installing devices to help future improvements to be possible on the cheap.

Probably 5G repeaters which just take an antenna on the roof and retransmit indoors at Wifi-like signal strength

Rexdragon125 posted...

Probably 5G repeaters which just take an antenna on the roof and retransmit indoors at Wifi-like signal strength

"Probably"

...that's a whole lotta trust you're putting out there to the private corporations who infinitely sell our personal info and try to manipulate us so that we give them money.

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Lunar_Savage posted...

"Probably"

...that's a whole lotta trust you're putting out there to the private corporations who infinitely sell our personal info and try to manipulate us so that we give them money.

They could also work with 4G

You're gonna have to fill me in on how radio waves will control us

Rexdragon125 posted...

They could also work with 4G

You're gonna have to fill me in on how radio waves will control us

The control would technically be in place if you think phones are evil.

Otherwise, they're just installing more than you credit them for. Nikola Tesla death beam type stuff (dunh dunh dunh!).

lmfao

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Lunar_Savage posted...

The control would technically be in place if you think phones are evil.

Otherwise, they're just installing more than you credit them for. Nikola Tesla death beam type stuff (dunh dunh dunh!).

lmfao

Tesla couldn't get his death beam to stay coherent in the atmopshere. It was found to work in a vacuum and was later used to make images in CRT TVs

herp derp

Rexdragon125 posted...

Tesla couldn't get his death beam to stay coherent in the atmopshere. It was found to work in a vacuum and was later used to make images in CRT TVs

herp derp

I believe he was also the one that discovered the frequency all life operates on, no? If we're being serious I do remember something about that but don't remember exactly if it was him or not. Something about him being terrified of it since it even killed plant life which he didn't expect. Or was that all the same beam?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVJgKeKwEc8
can we stop giving right wing nonsense attention please? this is how it spreads and have people believe it.

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Lunar_Savage posted...

I believe he was also the one that discovered the frequency all life operates on, no? If we're being serious I do remember something about that but don't remember exactly if it was him or not. Something about him being terrified of it since it even killed plant life which he didn't expect. Or was that all the same beam?

Nikola Tesla was a genius but he also did a lot of weird shit. He also said he could find the earth's resonant frequency and destroy it with vibrations.

Rexdragon125 posted...

Nikola Tesla was a genius but he also did a lot of weird shit. He also said he could find the earth's resonant frequency and destroy it with vibrations.

Well, the man knocked out an electric generator from miles and miles away. He also caused an Earthquake by doing that vibration center of gravity experiment on a building and also did it again on a bridge and damn near made it collapse.

Researching Nikola Tesla and his experiments is one giant series of "what in the actual fuck."

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why da fuck does dis topic have 50 posts
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