Current Events > Trump and Pence basically lied to our faces yesterday and today

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kayoticdreamz posted...

based on the replies I'm going to guess you guys think democrats never lie.

I'm not even arguing if Trump lied or not, I'm arguing why are you mad at Trump for what you perceive to be a lie, but never actually get on your own party about their lies? Acting like Democrats are the beacon of honesty and morality is hilarious and that is what I am getting on you guys about.

You expect republicans to eat their own when they screw up, but it never works the other way, which is my point. You're acting like Trump is the only liar in politics, well I Challenge you to find an honest politician.

if we're going to bring up Obama, the famous "You can keep your healthcare/doctor" line and the broken as fuck obamacare sign up website. or the fact he didn't lower healthcare costs as promised.

Or we have the Clintons

AOC never seems to know what she's talking about.

Biden.

So Obama was in office for 8 years, obstructed by Republicans for many of those years, and those are the only lies you can come up with? "He promised I could keep my own doctor" and "he promised to lower healthcare costs"....a fight that he started and admitted that it would be a long term fight and he was just starting it.

kayoticdreamz posted...

based on the replies I'm going to guess you guys think democrats never lie.

I'm not even arguing if Trump lied or not, I'm arguing why are you mad at Trump for what you perceive to be a lie, but never actually get on your own party about their lies? Acting like Democrats are the beacon of honesty and morality is hilarious and that is what I am getting on you guys about.

You expect republicans to eat their own when they screw up, but it never works the other way, which is my point. You're acting like Trump is the only liar in politics, well I Challenge you to find an honest politician.

if we're going to bring up Obama, the famous "You can keep your healthcare/doctor" line and the broken as fuck obamacare sign up website. or the fact he didn't lower healthcare costs as promised.

Or we have the Clintons

AOC never seems to know what she's talking about.

Biden.

Ok so a few (well many) points:
1) Did someone, anyone, in this topic say "Democrats never lie"? If not you just created a strawman to argue against and derail the topic..
2) Are you stating that if person A did something, we can't be upset if person B also does it?
3) Where in this topic (or others) did people claim the Democratic party was the "beacon of honesty and morality"? So far is seems that you are again creating statements nobody said ..
4) Again, who or where was it stated "Democrats don't have to eat their crow/mistakes"?
5) You need to reread my question - I asked "With the frequency that Trump has lied". You said the website was broken - is that a lie? Because now it seems like you want to expand the scope to "All politicians politicians promise things that don't happen". Are you saying all politicians have as many broken promises as much as Trump?
6) Let's take AOC - "Not knowing what she's talking about" is a lie?

Are you guys gonna ever get exhausted of shitting on Trump over 8 years?

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On_The_Edge posted...

Are you guys gonna ever get exhausted of shitting on Trump over 8 years?

After the godawful job he's done with this pandemic, I don't think he'll be reelected

On_The_Edge posted...

Are you guys gonna ever get exhausted of shitting on Trump over 8 years?

I was exhausted week 1, but he's still a dogshit president.
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On_The_Edge posted...

Are you guys gonna ever get exhausted of shitting on Trump over 8 years?

He lies daily so we shit on him daily. U have a problem with that

Oh yah 100% I just saw today a ton of people on Facebook and Twitter saying that they do not trust Trump

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kayoticdreamz posted...

if we're going to bring up Obama, the famous "You can keep your healthcare/doctor" line and the broken as fuck obamacare sign up website. or the fact he didn't lower healthcare costs as promised.

The Republicans are the reason Obamacare was gutted so.

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Right wing arguments are straight up trash. Haven't heard a single intelligent thing from a Trumper during this whole crisis.

DanHaren2019 posted...

Right wing arguments are straight up trash. Haven't heard a single intelligent thing from a Trumper during this whole crisis.

Speak for youself, I haven't heard anything intelligent from a liberal.

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Waluigi7 posted...

Speak for youself, I haven't heard anything intelligent from a liberal.

So every single thing any liberal has said is "not intelligent"? Or just the things you've taken time to listen to?

Ruvan22 posted...

So every single thing any liberal has said is "not intelligent"? Or just the things you've taken time to listen to?

They have done nothing but point fingers and blame Trump for the entire thing.

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Deflect deflect deflect.

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Waluigi7 posted...

They have done nothing but point fingers and blame Trump for the entire thing.

Are you talking about the current CVOID issue? Because your original statement encompassed anything/everything liberals have said...

A politics lied? Oh no!!!!!

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Waluigi7 posted...

Speak for youself, I haven't heard anything intelligent from a liberal.

January 22: We have it totally under control. Its one person coming in from China. Its going to be just fine.

February 2: Well, we pretty much shut it down coming in from China. We cant have thousands of people coming in who may have this problem, the coronavirus. So were gonna see what happens, but we did shut it down, yes.

February 14: We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. Its like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So were in very good shape.

February 24: The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA Stock Market starting to look very good to me!

February 25: CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.

February 25: I think that's a problem thats going to go away They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, were very close to a vaccine.

February 26: The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.

February 26: We're going very substantially down, not up.

February 27: One day its like a miracle, it will disappear.

February 28: We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.

February 28: Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, you know that, right? Coronavirus, theyre politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, Hows President Trump doing? They go, Oh, not good, not good. They have no clue. They dont have any clue. They cant even count their votes in Iowa. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. Theyd been doing it since you got in. Its all turning. They lost. Its all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax.

March 2: You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?

March 2: A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and theyre happening very rapidly.

March 4: If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work some of them go to work, but they get better.

March 5: I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.

March 5: The United States has, as of now, only 129 cases and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!

March 6: I think were doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down a tremendous job at keeping it down.

March 6: Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. Theyre there. And the tests are beautiful. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.

March 6: "You know, my uncle was a great person. He was at MIT. He taught at MIT for, I think, like a record number of years. He was a great super genius. Dr. John Trump. I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this? ' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president."

March 6: I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.

March 8: We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.

March 9: This blindsided the world.

March 9: "The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation, far beyond what the facts would warrant.

March 9: So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!

March 10: "It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away."

March 13: National Emergency Declaration

March 13: I don't take responsibility at all

March 13: "For decades the @CDCgov looked at, and studied, its testing system, but did nothing about it. It would always be inadequate and slow for a large scale pandemic, but a pandemic would never happen, they hoped. President Obama made changes that only complicated things further"

March 14: "SOCIAL DISTANCING!"

March 15: "TODAY IS A NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER. GOD BLESS EVERYONE!"

March 15: This is a very contagious virus. Its incredible. But its something that we have tremendous control over.

March 16: If youre talking about the virus, no, thats not under control for any place in the world. ... I was talking about what were doing is under control, but Im not talking about the virus."

March 16: "I'd rate it a 10" (in response to how he rate his handling of the situation)

Resaix posted...

Not unless Trump and McConnell allow the Democrats to work with them on it. McConnells proposal right now is a no go because he didn't allow any Democrat input

The Democrats don't need any input. This is a crisis bill, we need to get it out as soon as possible.

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Waluigi7 posted...

The Democrats don't need any input. This is a crisis bill, we need to get it out as soon as possible.

Still needs to be a fair compromise. McConnell wants to bail out corporations with the actual people as afterthoughts. Democrats have a package which actually helps Americans.

Resaix posted...

Democrats have a package which actually helps Americans.

The irony is delicious. If Trump supporters want their free Playstations, they're gonna have to support Democrats.

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008Zulu posted...

The irony is delicious. If Trump supporters want their free Playstations, they're gonna have to support Democrats.

I have no interest in a free handout. Try again.

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Waluigi7 posted...

I have no interest in a free handout. Try again.

No offense friend, but you are not the entirety of America.

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008Zulu posted...

No offense friend, but you are not the entirety of America.

Most Trump supporters don't either.

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twitterfriends posted...

Oh yah 100% I just saw today a ton of people on Facebook and Twitter saying that they do not trust Trump

Good. No American should trust any president.

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onedarksoul posted...

Good. No American should trust any president.

Any self-respecting Patriot should.

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chrono625 posted...

Cant get masks for construction work either and we are advised and trained for silica and other safety hazards.

so now what should we do? Work without basic PPE? According to NYS Cuomo said we are essential personnel. So sites are not closing down.

i dont see how building out a law firm space is essential personnel.

You wouldn't catch me within 100 feet of silica without a mask regardless of what my job was. There's literally nothing that can make that kind of risk worth it.

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Waluigi7 posted...

Any self-respecting Patriot should.

Nope, just the dumb ones blindly trust their leaders

DanHaren2019 posted...

Nope, just the dumb ones blindly trust their leaders

I don't blindly trust leaders.

Bush can't be trusted, Obama can't be trusted...

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Waluigi7 posted...

I don't blindly trust leaders.

Bush can't be trusted, Obama can't be trusted...

Oh ok so ur just a trumpet

DanHaren2019 posted...

Oh ok so ur just a trumpet

I don't trust war criminals.

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Oh ok so ur just a bad poster

Waluigi7 posted...

I don't trust war criminals.

You don't trust Donald Trump then