Current Events > Bernie: Let's tax the rich more and leave the middle and poor as is.

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SquantoZ
03/10/20 10:32:49 AM
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Trump middle and poor class supporters: STOP TRYING TO TAKE ALL MY FUCKING MONEY AND ALL MY FUCKING GUNS!

all of my what...

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The Trent
03/10/20 10:33:20 AM
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Math ain't in berndogs favor

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Bananana
03/10/20 10:33:39 AM
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Conservatives are dumb and defensive, more at 11

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The Trent
03/10/20 10:34:21 AM
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Liberals: selfless geniuses

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malenz
03/10/20 10:35:09 AM
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pearls before swine. you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

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TheHoldSteady
03/10/20 10:35:12 AM
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BENGHAZl
03/10/20 10:36:11 AM
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Why dont we just make everything free then no one will be poor
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Resaix
03/10/20 10:37:09 AM
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TheHoldSteady posted...
Lmao! Pretty damn accurate
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Maze_
03/10/20 10:38:46 AM
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A lot of people don't seem to know what Tax Brackets are

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s0nicfan
03/10/20 10:39:25 AM
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"Leave the middle and poor as is"
Oh you poor sweet summer child....

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/analysis-raises-questions-about-sanders-proposals-pay-ambitious-plans-n1150771
But a budget estimate by a nonpartisan think tank provided to NBC News suggests that despite new proposals on how he would pay for them, his plans would still result in a $20 trillion budget shortfall over 10 years.

Based on the calculations provided NBC News, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget found it would take an additional across-the-board 15 percent to 20 percent tax on wages or income to fully fund Sanders' proposals over 10 years.

This is on top of the 10 percent increase already baked into Sanders proposals.


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SquantoZ
03/10/20 10:40:20 AM
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TheHoldSteady posted...

Basically...

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AlephZero
03/10/20 10:46:31 AM
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SquantoZ posted...
Bernie: leave the middle and poor as is.

This is what bernie bros unironically believe

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Number090684
03/10/20 10:48:28 AM
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TheHoldSteady posted...

Truth

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MeltyAlert
03/10/20 10:49:25 AM
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Democrats are the ones who are voting for Biden instead...

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Resaix
03/10/20 10:52:17 AM
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MeltyAlert posted...
Democrats are the ones who are voting for Biden instead...
Bernie and Biden both >>>>>>>> Trump

However, Biden is the only one who will match Trump's turnout, the fear of socialism will turn moderates away from Bernie
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SquantoZ
03/10/20 11:04:43 AM
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AlephZero posted...
Bernie: leave the middle and poor as is.

This is what bernie bros unironically believe

The increase in taxes will be offset by savings in other aspects of life such as healthcare costs.

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Squall28
03/10/20 11:07:36 AM
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Democrats: Let's pay for trillions of dollars with billions of dollars in taxes.
Republicans: Let's cut taxes but keep spending the same or higher
Enlightened Centrists: Let's have a balanced budget.

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s0nicfan
03/10/20 11:10:38 AM
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SquantoZ posted...
The increase in taxes will be offset by savings in other aspects of life such as healthcare costs.

The increase in taxes is also about $20T short of what is needed to actually pay for his plans, even assuming M4A only costs $17T as stated in his plan even though only a few weeks ago he was saying it would cost $30T.

Every single analysis of his proposed tax policy is that it's grossly unrealistic.

And as for savings, currently companies cover on average 80% of the cost of healthcare plans as part of subsidized employee healthcare. When that entire tax burden shifts to individuals, they're going to go from covering 20% to 100% of the cost through taxes, so unless those healthcare costs drop by 80% (which is hilarious if anyone thinks that), the increase won't in fact be offset by savings.

Bernie HIMSELF said people would have to pay more. His argument has always been the value of the goods and services being offered is higher than the actual increase people will have to pay in taxes. This shouldn't even be up for debate. Every analysis. Every explanation. Bernie HIMSELF: people will pay more.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/06/12/bernie_sanders_on_socialism_people_would_be_delighted_to_pay_more_in_taxes.html
SANDERS: Yeah, but I suspect that a lot of people in the country would be delighted to pay more in taxes if they had comprehensive health care as a human right. I live 50 miles away from the Canadian border. You go to the doctor any time you want. You don't take ought your wallet. You have heart surgery, you have a heart transplant and you come out of the hospital and it costs you nothing. Your kids in many countries around the world can go to the public colleges and universities tuition-free, wages in many cases are higher. So there is a tradeoff, but at the end of the day, I think, that most people will believe they will be better off when their kids have educational opportunities without out-of-pocket expenses and when they have healthcare as a human right and they have affordable housing, when they have decent retirement security, I think most Americans will understand that is a good deal.

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shnangyboos
03/10/20 11:11:54 AM
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The Robin Hood Complex.

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Antifar
03/10/20 11:13:09 AM
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Spooking posted...
*wants to steal from a group of people*

Repub: Na, let's not.

Socialists: LOL - this guy doesn't want to steal from others!

It's got nothing to do with theft, which Trump loves
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-repeals-regulation-wage-theft_n_58d9408ee4b03692bea814c9
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SquantoZ
03/10/20 12:12:27 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
The increase in taxes is also about $20T short of what is needed to actually pay for his plans, even assuming M4A only costs $17T as stated in his plan even though only a few weeks ago he was saying it would cost $30T.

Every single analysis of his proposed tax policy is that it's grossly unrealistic.

And as for savings, currently companies cover on average 80% of the cost of healthcare plans as part of subsidized employee healthcare. When that entire tax burden shifts to individuals, they're going to go from covering 20% to 100% of the cost through taxes, so unless those healthcare costs drop by 80% (which is hilarious if anyone thinks that), the increase won't in fact be offset by savings.

Bernie HIMSELF said people would have to pay more. His argument has always been the value of the goods and services being offered is higher than the actual increase people will have to pay in taxes. This shouldn't even be up for debate. Every analysis. Every explanation. Bernie HIMSELF: people will pay more.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/06/12/bernie_sanders_on_socialism_people_would_be_delighted_to_pay_more_in_taxes.html

Thanks for the this. I'm still all for this tradeoff.

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sylverlolol
03/10/20 12:17:02 PM
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TheHoldSteady posted...
lmao

Posted this on in the political section of a discord I'm on that is filled with republicans...don't think I've seen that much salt in one place before LOL

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Kitt
03/10/20 12:19:59 PM
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TheHoldSteady posted...


Lmao
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ChrisTaka
03/10/20 12:25:19 PM
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TheHoldSteady posted...

Ok I'm stealing this

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