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solosnake
01/19/20 3:38:14 PM
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Do you think robot cops with AI would be better than human cops?


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UnholyMudcrab
01/19/20 3:43:21 PM
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Antifar
01/19/20 3:43:35 PM
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Who programs them?
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SH_expert44
01/19/20 3:44:11 PM
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Antifar posted...
Who programs them?
Joe

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King Rial
01/19/20 3:44:31 PM
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That would likely be worse. Police can show compassion and use some common sense, even when they technically should arrest or ticket someone under the letter of the law. Robots can be easily outsmarted. Programming can be defeated.

And then there is the problem of bias not going away. Because who programs the AI has an impact on how it acts.
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solosnake
01/19/20 3:45:21 PM
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Antifar posted...
Who programs them?
Someone who wouldnt be evil obviously :)

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fohstick
01/19/20 3:45:36 PM
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ideally yes, but you can only go so far with today's deep learning method
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Evening_Dragon
01/19/20 3:46:57 PM
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King Rial posted...
That would likely be worse. Police can show compassion and use some common sense, even when they technically should arrest or ticket someone under the letter of the law. Robots can be easily outsmarted. Programming can be defeated.

And then there is the problem of bias not going away. Because who programs the AI has an impact on how it acts.

We get to the point where have actual fuckin' robot cops, and you think the programming won't be sophisticated enough?

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Duncanwii
01/19/20 3:47:03 PM
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No. Part of being a coo requires the ability to survey a situation and make a decision based on a case by case basis. You need discretion. Something a robot is unable to comprehend.

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solosnake
01/19/20 3:48:15 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
No. Part of being a coo requires the ability to survey a situation and make a decision based on a case by case basis. You need discretion. Something a robot is unable to comprehend.
What about all the bad and corrupt police in the world though? You could eliminate that with robot cops

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King Rial
01/19/20 3:49:40 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
We get to the point where have actual fuckin' robot cops, and you think the programming won't be sophisticated enough?

Maybe remove the word "easily", but yes, robots will be able to be outsmarted and programming will be able to be defeated.
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Intro2Logic
01/19/20 3:51:11 PM
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solosnake posted...
What about all the bad and corrupt police in the world though? You could eliminate that with robot cops
You're just shifting that weight to the algorithm that guides these robots.

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Evening_Dragon
01/19/20 3:51:40 PM
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King Rial posted...
Maybe remove the word "easily", but yes, robots will be able to be outsmarted and programming will be able to be defeated.

There's nothing inherent to programming or robots that makes them incapable of being as smart and functional as a typical cop, at least within the realm of theory. And we're talking about robot cops, so we're well within that realm.

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King Rial
01/19/20 4:14:45 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
There's nothing inherent to programming or robots that makes them incapable of being as smart and functional as a typical cop, at least within the realm of theory. And we're talking about robot cops, so we're well within that realm.

Maybe I'm out of my depth, but I can't think of any technology we've ever made that hasn't been defeated.
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Evening_Dragon
01/19/20 4:22:39 PM
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King Rial posted...
Maybe I'm out of my depth, but I can't think of any technology we've ever made that hasn't been defeated.

Defeated in what sense?

I'm not saying they're impossible to trick, just that there's no reason they couldn't be as functional as a human cop, who can also be tricked or defeated.

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Questionmarktarius
01/19/20 4:23:33 PM
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Robot cops would be optimal if the laws weren't terrible.
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DevsBro
01/19/20 4:24:08 PM
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King Rial posted...
Police can show compassion and use some common sense
Not according to CE

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Yadoken
01/19/20 4:24:18 PM
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Didn't Kamala Harris expose the racism inherent in AI? Anyway, according to her, its all the same. Human cops or AI cops will both be racist cops.

Edit, oh right it was AOC. Sorry Kamala, my bad.

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Evening_Dragon
01/19/20 4:26:05 PM
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Yadoken posted...
Didn't Kamala Harris expose the racism inherent in AI? Anyway, according to her, its all the same. Human cops or AI cops will both be racist cops.

fuck you on about, Harris some kind of GiTS hero?

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Questionmarktarius
01/19/20 4:27:13 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
fuck you on about, Harris some kind of GiTS hero?
AI shares the bias of who makes the AI.
This is already a known factor.
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Feetish
01/19/20 4:27:23 PM
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Robocop, yes.

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Evening_Dragon
01/19/20 4:33:08 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
AI shares the bias of who makes the AI.
This is already a known factor.

This is an incredibly vague concept. I'm not saying it's wrong, it definitely has merit. The thing is, ff you're talking about the facial recognition AI, that was based on the pictures it was fed. Most of them were white just based on pictures available and the proportion of white people in the population. That's a thing to consider and weigh priority for, yet not necessarily a bias from the maker.

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Questionmarktarius
01/19/20 4:34:49 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
The thing is, ff you're talking about the facial recognition AI, that was based on the pictures it was fed.
That's an aspect of "who makes the AI", though.
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KillerSlaw
01/19/20 4:36:33 PM
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They're going to be ED 209's far more often than they would be Robocop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFvqDaFpXeM

Also reminder to Kojima fanboys that Kojima literally ripped this off for Metal Gear

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Evening_Dragon
01/19/20 4:37:46 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
That's an aspect of "who makes the AI", though.

It could be, but as I stated, it doesn't have to be. They could've just fed it from Google images without any weights for any race at all.

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