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Josiah_Is_Back 12/30/19 9:00:05 PM #1:	Darth Sidious is back and we're only given ambiguous proposals as to how he's back. Dark Sith magic, cloning, etc. But no discernible reason; in fact his line from Episode III ("The Dark Side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural") feels like it was included not so much as an homage but as a way to get critically-minded fans to just accept his return. Fine. He's back. Now that Rey has killed him, how do we know he can't just come back again? I mean, if the "Sith magic" that was used to resurrect him is only a one-off deal and can never be done again, that was never explicitly stated in the film. So there's no reason to assume he's actually definitively dead. Problem. <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:932259668] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>Darth Sidious is back and we're only given ambiguous proposals as to how he's back. Dark Sith magic, cloning, etc. But no discernible reason; in fact his line from Episode III ("The Dark Side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural") feels like it was included not so much as an homage but as a way to get critically-minded fans to just accept his return. Fine. He's back. Now that Rey has killed him, how do we know he can't just come back again? I mean, if the "Sith magic" that was used to resurrect him is only a one-off deal and can never be done again, that was never explicitly stated in the film. So there's no reason to assume he's actually definitively dead. Problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AFrench2 12/30/19 9:06:14 PM #2:	Actually, after that conversation in Revenge of the Sith, you kinda have to look at Return of the Jedi a different way. --- Ohh boy <cite>AFrench2 posted [p:932259902] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>Actually, after that conversation in Revenge of the Sith, you kinda have to look at Return of the Jedi a different way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 12/30/19 9:10:40 PM #3:	AFrench2 posted... Actually, after that conversation in Revenge of the Sith, you kinda have to look at Return of the Jedi a different way. What do you mean? <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:932260076] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>AFrench2 posted... </cite> <quote>Actually, after that conversation in Revenge of the Sith, you kinda have to look at Return of the Jedi a different way.</quote> What do you mean? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
au_gold 12/30/19 9:19:37 PM #4:	Its dumb, but there are plenty more glaring problems with the movie. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. <cite>au_gold posted [p:932260444] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>Its dumb, but there are plenty more glaring problems with the movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 12/30/19 9:37:34 PM #5:	They straight up dump him into the title crawl acting like he never died...as if nobody would have any questions. His death before seemed pretty definitive, so if they are willing to just control-z that then I don't see what stops them from undoing this death as well... --- Touch fuzzy get dizzy. <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:932261184] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>They straight up dump him into the title crawl acting like he never died...as if nobody would have any questions. His death before seemed pretty definitive, so if they are willing to just control-z that then I don't see what stops them from undoing this death as well... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AFrench2 12/30/19 9:41:08 PM #6:	Josiah_Is_Back posted... What do you mean? I mean, after Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith saying whatever about Plagueis and the Dark Side being a path to many abilities that some consider unnatural, etc etc etc...it makes you view the OT in a new light. Because although that movie came out in 2004 - it happened chronologically before Return of the Jedi - so you gotta be like "Oh yeah, well he did mention he could potentially cheat death in that movie that came out 20 years after he died already" --- Ohh boy <cite>AFrench2 posted [p:932261323] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>Josiah_Is_Back posted... </cite> <quote>What do you mean?</quote>I mean, after Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith saying whatever about Plagueis and the Dark Side being a path to many abilities that some consider unnatural, etc etc etc...it makes you view the OT in a new light. Because although that movie came out in 2004 - it happened chronologically before Return of the Jedi - so you gotta be like "Oh yeah, well he did mention he could potentially cheat death in that movie that came out 20 years after he died already" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 12/30/19 9:41:12 PM #7:	Wetterdew posted... They straight up dump him into the title crawl acting like he never died...as if nobody would have any questions. His death before seemed pretty definitive, so if they are willing to just control-z that then I don't see what stops them from undoing this death as well... You'd understand if you played Fortnite --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:932261326] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted...</cite> <quote>They straight up dump him into the title crawl acting like he never died...as if nobody would have any questions. His death before seemed pretty definitive, so if they are willing to just control-z that then I don't see what stops them from undoing this death as well... </quote> You'd understand if you played Fortnite</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 12/31/19 10:58:24 AM #8:	When in the history of fuck has ANY villain ever died from being thrown down a shaft? I mean, you fellas can see how thats nowhere near as "definitive" as being goddamn disintegrated, right? --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:932279675] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>When in the history of fuck has ANY villain ever died from being thrown down a shaft? I mean, you fellas can see how thats nowhere near as "definitive" as being goddamn disintegrated, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeIon Bread 12/31/19 11:00:24 AM #9:	Yeah, the disintegration thing made it pretty final, IMHO. But, having said that, fuck TROS. --- Sunhawk's main alternate account. I'm just a little bit caught in the middle, life is a maze and love is a riddle. <cite>MeIon Bread posted [p:932279741] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, the disintegration thing made it pretty final, IMHO. But, having said that, fuck TROS. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CountDog 12/31/19 11:03:56 AM #11:	Stars wars is becoming a manga. --- http://kinomania.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/gran-torino-clint-eastwood.jpg <cite>CountDog posted [p:932279863] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>Stars wars is becoming a manga. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 12/31/19 11:05:16 AM #12:	I think the ancient dagger with blades that outline the modern day wreckage of the Death Star is a bigger plot hole. If its ancient that is....I need to rewatch it. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:932279921] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>I think the ancient dagger with blades that outline the modern day wreckage of the Death Star is a bigger plot hole. If its ancient that is....I need to rewatch it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 12/31/19 11:14:56 AM #13:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... When in the history of fuck has ANY villain ever died from being thrown down a shaft? I mean, you fellas can see how thats nowhere near as "definitive" as being goddamn disintegrated, right? He fell down a shaft, causing a minor reactor explosion in the process, and subsequently the entire Death Star was blown to smithereens. Is that not disintegration? <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:932280261] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite> <quote>When in the history of fuck has ANY villain ever died from being thrown down a shaft? I mean, you fellas can see how thats nowhere near as "definitive" as being goddamn disintegrated, right?</quote> He fell down a shaft, causing a minor reactor explosion in the process, and subsequently the entire Death Star was blown to smithereens. Is that not disintegration? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
au_gold 12/31/19 11:18:14 AM #14:	iPhone_7 posted... I think the ancient dagger with blades that outline the modern day wreckage of the Death Star is a bigger plot hole. If its ancient that is....I need to rewatch it. Its definitely a plot hole and a really fucking stupid one. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. <cite>au_gold posted [p:932280395] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted... </cite> <quote>I think the ancient dagger with blades that outline the modern day wreckage of the Death Star is a bigger plot hole. If its ancient that is....I need to rewatch it.</quote>Its definitely a plot hole and a really fucking stupid one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeIon Bread 12/31/19 11:20:32 AM #15:	I don't think the dagger was meant to be "ancient", just old...and, of course, the Death Star had been destroyed for 30 years. EVERYTHING IS FINE FRIENDS --- Sunhawk's main alternate account. I'm just a little bit caught in the middle, life is a maze and love is a riddle. <cite>MeIon Bread posted [p:932280465] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>I don't think the dagger was meant to be "ancient", just old...and, of course, the Death Star had been destroyed for 30 years. EVERYTHING IS FINE FRIENDS </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
au_gold 12/31/19 11:27:13 AM #16:	Weren't there ancient Sith runes carved into it? And that little part that came out to point to where the MacGuffin is, Jesus Christ. Quality writing, right there. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. <cite>au_gold posted [p:932280730] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>Weren't there ancient Sith runes carved into it? And that little part that came out to point to where the MacGuffin is, Jesus Christ. Quality writing, right there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AFrench2 12/31/19 11:30:05 AM #17:	au_gold posted... Weren't there ancient Sith runes carved into it? And that little part that came out to point to where the MacGuffin is, Jesus Christ. Quality writing, right there. Yeah, how did she just know to look on a fallen Death Star that was in the ocean? wtf? Oh, right, The Force was guiding her. --- Ohh boy <cite>AFrench2 posted [p:932280836] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>au_gold posted... </cite> <quote>Weren't there ancient Sith runes carved into it? And that little part that came out to point to where the MacGuffin is, Jesus Christ. Quality writing, right there.</quote>Yeah, how did she just know to look on a fallen Death Star that was in the ocean? wtf? Oh, right, The Force was guiding her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Silver Bearings 12/31/19 11:33:29 AM #18:	Josiah_Is_Back posted... the entire Death Star was blown to smithereens Nope. It is still in tact on the planet surface. --- Silver Bearings 2020: Clear Vision for America <cite>Silver Bearings posted [p:932280937] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>Josiah_Is_Back posted... </cite> <quote>the entire Death Star was blown to smithereens</quote>Nope. It is still in tact on the planet surface. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 12/31/19 12:32:42 PM #19:	au_gold posted... Its definitely a plot hole and a really fucking stupid one. Oh yes, a group of sorcerers who can see the future designing a dagger that will only be helpful in the future. How fucking stupid --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:932283283] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>au_gold posted... </cite> <quote>Its definitely a plot hole and a really fucking stupid one.</quote>Oh yes, a group of sorcerers who can see the future designing a dagger that will only be helpful in the future. How fucking stupid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
au_gold 12/31/19 12:40:17 PM #20:	I know, right? Like theyd know the exact angle Rey would have to be standing in order for the dagger to line up perfectly with the Death Star wreckage. And theyd know the artifact would still be in the same exact place on the Death Star after it was completely obliterated. Very fucking stupid indeed. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. <cite>au_gold posted [p:932283591] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>I know, right? Like theyd know the exact angle Rey would have to be standing in order for the dagger to line up perfectly with the Death Star wreckage. And theyd know the artifact would still be in the same exact place on the Death Star after it was completely obliterated. Very fucking stupid indeed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__aCEr__ 12/31/19 12:51:11 PM #21:	Josiah_Is_Back posted... When in the history of fuck has ANY villain ever died from being thrown down a shaft? Most Disney villains die by falling off cliffs. --- See you next Wednesday. <cite>__aCEr__ posted [p:932284051] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>Josiah_Is_Back posted... </cite> <quote>When in the history of fuck has ANY villain ever died from being thrown down a shaft?</quote> Most Disney villains die by falling off cliffs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 12/31/19 1:05:49 PM #22:	__aCEr__ posted... Most Disney villains die by falling off cliffs. Or DO they??????? --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:932284634] in The most g... [t:78294089]...</cite> <quote>__aCEr__ posted... </cite> <quote>Most Disney villains die by falling off cliffs.</quote>Or DO they??????? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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