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dameon_reaper posted...

I assumed he was talking about the Japanese during WWII but he did say Asian American lol...

Also, a few people sold out one of their own and now all Jews killed Jesus? What kind of shit is this?

It wasnt just a few people. They voted to kill him.
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JKRowling posted...

Or like Asian-Americans in America.

are you a troll account?

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JKRowling posted...

It wasnt just a few people. They voted to kill him.

Its also not something that Jews tend to do. "They vote to kill people, that's why I hate them." Using race or a group of people that way is pretty wrong. That's like saying that Catholics all rape kids just because there have been priests who do.

https://youtu.be/hxCcvCZkaJc
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BilalPowell posted...

There was once a time all monotheistic people were Jewish.

zoroastrianism predates judaism

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The real non "they hate Jews just because they hate Jews" reason is. There is a disproportionate amount of Jews in areas of commerce or recently lawyers. Is it a coincidence or do they network themselves into those positions and "control" everything? I'd say it's more of a coincidence as father's will train their sons to do what they do. But the argument from those who hate Jews is they will network and only hire other Jews because according to old Jewish laws it's ok to deceive non Jews and the idea is to advance the Jewish state. Whether that be Israel or just Jewish people. Whether all a coincidence or on purpose all through history they see it as the latter.

Again I'm not saying any of the hate is right. I'm just giving the reasons I've seen and studied throughout history. It's not just "oh they're Jews so we irrationally hate them". They have their reasons. The people who were in banking or money positions just happened to be Jewish so like with most irrational stereotypes that shaped a lot of people's views.

I'll probably get modded for this. Whatever lol.

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JKRowling posted...

Before God sent Jesus to Earth.

Judaism was not the first monotheistic religion. Zoroastrianism was the first.

Not 100%

Judaism was unique in that their god was the only one that "actually existed"

Zoroastrianism does not have anything in it that says "any god other than Ahura Mazda is a false idol"

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Not 100%

Judaism was unique in that their god was the only one that "actually existed"

Zoroastrianism does not have anything in it that says "any god other than Ahura Mazda is a false idol"

zoroastrianism is monotheistic, they believe all the other "gods" are just angels
this is like saying christianity is not monotheistic because it has angels

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Ryuko_Chan posted...

zoroastrianism is monotheistic, they believe all the other "gods" are just angels
this is like saying christianity is not monotheistic because it has angels

No. That's not the same at all. If I told a Zoroastrian guy about Horus he'd say "that's a cool deity you have there but he's not as cool as Ahura Mazda."

If you do the same thing to a Jewish person they tell you "There is no such thing as Horus. He doesn't exist"

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Tightwads.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

No. That's not the same at all. If I told a Zoroastrian guy about Horus he'd say "that's a cool deity you have there but he's not as cool as Ahura Mazda."

If you do the same thing to a Jewish person they tell you "There is no such thing as Horus. He doesn't exist"

Zoroastrians dont believe Horus exists either and they never did, you have no clue what youre talking about

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@marshawnlynch

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coolcono posted...

yikes


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Oh, I do hate that we give about $3 billion to Israel every year. If anything, Israel should be paying America $3 billion per year instead.
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Ingroup preference
Deicide
Awkward tendency/pattern to be involved in movements that become deeply unpopular/subvert existing structures then complain when this is noticed
The never ending whining
Zionism
The ADL being a bunch of fucks

They're damned if they do, damned if they don't essentially.

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^"Anti-zionism isn't antisemitism"
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Damn_Underscore posted...

^"Anti-zionism isn't antisemitism"

And not all Semites are Jews. If they called it what it is "Judenhass" instead of trying to clumsily redefine Semite that'd be a start.

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I don't really know, but like some others have mentioned, it could just be because they are a very noticeable minority and since so many of them are in positions of power, they're an easy scapegoat.

I frequent another discussion board, and it's mostly populated by anti-semites, and their line of reasoning tends to follow the "Jews control everything, Jews are secretly running America, Jews stole Palestine so Israel is an illegitimate country (let's ignore the fact that America, Canada, and Mexico, to name a few, were also founded on 'stolen land'), or every Jew is an evil control freak, just waiting to sell you out for a few shekels".

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Also, I think if America is going to be in any more wars in the Middle East, Israelis should be on the front lines of the war.
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Jews have always been an outgroup. Their homeland was tiny and insignificant and thus inevitably ended up under the thumb of whichever regional power was ascendant at the time. Judea was basically an eternal backwater and the Persians were the only overlords the Israelites could mostly put up with.
The Romans naturally got sick of their trouble-making and deported a ton of them, but they didn't deport everyone. Christians blamed them for murdering Jesus and persecuted them brutally, and the Jews returned the favor however and whenever they could(for two examples, they opened the gates of Jerusalem to the Sassanid Persians, followed by an orgy of anti-Christian violence, only for the Romans to come back and persecute them some more, so they opened the gates to the Arabs when they came knocking too.) As with all areas under Islamic rule, the region Arabified(mostly this came from the fact that Islam is in Arabic and you needed to be Muslim to get out of the jizya and to work in government and what not. There were never actually very many people from the Arabian peninsula, but I digress).
So the Jews wound up as a bunch of minority communities floating around the world(some Jews even made it as far away as China). Islamic law restricted some of their activities, but was generally nicer to them than the Christian world(it generally still wasn't very nice). In Europe, they were barred from most professions, so they naturally turned to jobs like money-lending and tax-collecting that were looked down on by or forbidden to Christians/Muslims. These jobs happened to be lucrative, which was great, because both Christian and Muslims rulers got into the habit of shaking down the weak, helpless Jews for money on the regular(they would generally get expelled, expropriated and/or pogromed if they didn't pay). Of course, you might also realize that people hate money-lenders and tax collectors, and they hate them even more when they're "different". The Jews were also generally not allowed to live in normal areas and were typically subject to restrictions as to where they could live, even though they were not always confined to explicit ghettos.
Throw in the fact that the vast majority people in the Middle Ages were wildly uneducated and terrible things happened to the Jews all the time. The rise of phrenology and eugenics in the Victorian era just gave the old anti-Semitic tropes a thin veneer of being "scientific"(there are not quotation marks big enough).

There's a lot of reasons, though the one I hear most commonly is that Jewish practices just so happened to coincide with more hygienic acts, which led to Jews having lower rates for sickness & disease. This led to resentment & paranoia such as Jews poisoning wells.

Another issue is that Christians & Muslims had elements that interfered with the practice of banking, which meant that a lot of it fell to Jews. This led to the Jews becoming particularly wealthy from the banking & loan industries. The wealth put Jews in positions of being the ones often responsible for repossession & foreclose, which is probably why the "Jews as wealthy & greedy" stereotype exists.

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darkbuster posted...

Jewish practices just so happened to coincide with more hygienic acts

Didnt Einstein marry his first cousin or something?
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ElatedVenusaur posted...

Jews have always been an outgroup. Their homeland was tiny and insignificant and thus inevitably ended up under the thumb of whichever regional power was ascendant at the time. Judea was basically an eternal backwater and the Persians were the only overlords the Israelites could mostly put up with.
The Romans naturally got sick of their trouble-making and deported a ton of them, but they didn't deport everyone. Christians blamed them for murdering Jesus and persecuted them brutally, and the Jews returned the favor however and whenever they could(for two examples, they opened the gates of Jerusalem to the Sassanid Persians, followed by an orgy of anti-Christian violence, only for the Romans to come back and persecute them some more, so they opened the gates to the Arabs when they came knocking too.) As with all areas under Islamic rule, the region Arabified(mostly this came from the fact that Islam is in Arabic and you needed to be Muslim to get out of the jizya and to work in government and what not. There were never actually very many people from the Arabian peninsula, but I digress).
So the Jews wound up as a bunch of minority communities floating around the world(some Jews even made it as far away as China). Islamic law restricted some of their activities, but was generally nicer to them than the Christian world(it generally still wasn't very nice). In Europe, they were barred from most professions, so they naturally turned to jobs like money-lending and tax-collecting that were looked down on by or forbidden to Christians/Muslims. These jobs happened to be lucrative, which was great, because both Christian and Muslims rulers got into the habit of shaking down the weak, helpless Jews for money on the regular(they would generally get expelled, expropriated and/or pogromed if they didn't pay). Of course, you might also realize that people hate money-lenders and tax collectors, and they hate them even more when they're "different". The Jews were also generally not allowed to live in normal areas and were typically subject to restrictions as to where they could live, even though they were not always confined to explicit ghettos.
Throw in the fact that the vast majority people in the Middle Ages were wildly uneducated and terrible things happened to the Jews all the time. The rise of phrenology and eugenics in the Victorian era just gave the old anti-Semitic tropes a thin veneer of being "scientific"(there are not quotation marks big enough).

Good post

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ThyCorndog posted...

Good post

Not really. Using shit that happened thousands of years ago to excuse shit behavior today doesnt make sense.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

^"Anti-zionism isn't antisemitism"

But anti-zionism often turns into antisemitism, which is a problem.

A thousand mass expulsions throughout history across the globe...at what point does it become their fault? What would cause so many cultures to find them abhorrent?

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Why even ask such a question if any possible answer anyone will give will be modded?

Not something that can be discussed is it?

JKRowling posted...

Not really. Using shit that happened thousands of years ago to excuse shit behavior today doesnt make sense.

is that what he did?

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toyota posted...

Why even ask such a question if any possible answer anyone will give will be modded?

Not something that can be discussed is it?

YlKES

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JKRowling posted...

Not really. Using shit that happened thousands of years ago to excuse shit behavior today doesnt make sense.

History of antisemitism isn't an excuse for antisemitism.

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toyota posted...

Why even ask such a question if any possible answer anyone will give will be modded?

Not something that can be discussed is it?

Plenty of people have given answers ITT without being modded.
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A group that for the longest time was deliberately excluded, then was distrusted for failing to assimilate, and then was regarded with suspicion for assimilating.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

History of antisemitism isn't an excuse for antisemitism.

Im not allowed to respond to that on gamefaqs.gamespot.com.
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JKRowling posted...

Im not allowed to respond to that on gamefaqs.gamespot.com.

What is your contention, anyway? Because certainly the Jews did not choose to be oppressed minorities: they had no choice in the matter, and Jewish communities sought to survive where and how they could, as anyone would.
And being/having been oppressed is never an excuse to be an oppresser.

Edit: https://twitter.com/TheRaDR/status/1057333224538624001
Let me cite this Twitter thread, which is great.

45% of billionaires are Jewish.

Also, see the Sackler family (who are Jewish) and the opioid crisis.

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"'Our father is Abraham!' they declared.

'No,' Jesus replied, 'for if you were really the children of Abraham, you would follow his example."

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https://youtu.be/GtMjhNekiFk
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Hotel_Security posted...

snip

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Most people aren't anti-Jew, they're anti-Israel. Myself included.

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https://youtu.be/EbOzfXAJm4I
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it's weird how you post these dumb movie clips as a way of criticizing Jewish people, tbh.

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https://youtu.be/HMkKuL12FCA
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For all the talk about diversity, you don't see any real conversation about how Jews are overrepresented in positions of power. From Congress positions, to big name companies from practically all the big name Mainstream Media outlets, big name tech companies like Oracle and Facebook, Jews comprise a large number of seats on each of the companies' boards. This is no coincidence. Learn about the ebb and flow of money and you'll come to understand that people (groups, countries, entities) just don't want you in their club. It's not evil or anything, it's how wealth creation and transfer works.

That being said, I gotta respect them. They take care of their own first and foremost, they have a strong family presence, and they make sure their younger generation knows their history to the point where kids would go to congregate to learn their history after school hours. When I look at the problems we have in the black community, literally all the issues we have, from poor family structures, to not being supportive of each other, to not knowing our history, the Jews prioritize in their community.

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SauI_Goodman posted...

They did kill the lord and savior though.

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^Im not sure Im allowed to respond to that on gamefaqs.gamespot.com.
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https://youtu.be/36Oxbur_OAY
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https://youtu.be/sWg4hjOjhlE
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Its due to reinforcement of propanganda from the 20th century and even to modern day via internet conspiracies.

Youtube itself was a big problem as well for spreading lies for years.

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https://youtu.be/H7us-KpqUE4
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https://youtu.be/IAcOsK9gRLk
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