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21WIVES_CHILL
12/22/19 6:33:12 PM
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Or putting in more than the minimum amount each month?

This is complete. Horse. Shit.
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Esrac
12/22/19 6:34:05 PM
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How do they penalize you?
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vigorm0rtis
12/22/19 6:37:40 PM
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Mine don't.

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REMercsChamp
12/22/19 6:38:35 PM
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And THIS is why you don't go to school

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21WIVES_CHILL
12/22/19 6:38:55 PM
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Esrac posted...
How do they penalize you?

Prepayment penalty
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Bass_X0
12/22/19 6:40:11 PM
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21WIVES_CHILL posted...
Prepayment penalty

Why is that a thing?

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vigorm0rtis
12/22/19 6:42:12 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Why is that a thing?

It's not unless you consolidate with a shitty bank.

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PIITB415
12/22/19 6:42:42 PM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
It's not unless you consolidate with a shitty bank.


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nemu
12/22/19 6:45:26 PM
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It's a thing for scam institutions that depend solely on people paying interest in order to make a profit, so obviously paying it off early takes away their profit.
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cmiller4642
12/22/19 6:45:56 PM
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College is a complete scam

Fuck America
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uwnim
12/22/19 6:47:45 PM
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Early payment penalties should be illegal, tbh.

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Esrac
12/22/19 6:52:30 PM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
It's not unless you consolidate with a shitty bank.

Maybe that's why I'd never heard of such a thing.
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Zanzenburger
12/22/19 7:06:53 PM
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Esrac posted...
Maybe that's why I'd never heard of such a thing.
This. This is not the norm. Most banks (and federal providers) do not charge early payment fees. Any banks that do are scamming you.

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SauI_Goodman
12/22/19 7:08:01 PM
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Their way of penalizing you for avoiding the interest. They get you either way.
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TheVipaGTS
12/22/19 7:08:35 PM
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Its in the contract you sign to get the loan. You paying it off quicker makes them less money. its pretty simple.

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Sexypwnstar
12/22/19 7:10:27 PM
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This is why you read the shit before you sign.

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TheVipaGTS
12/22/19 7:13:18 PM
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Sexypwnstar posted...
This is why you read the shit before you sign.
well there is no one (except for a private transaction with a friend or family member) who is going to give you a loan without a stipulation like that. they make their money off interest. more money due = more interest.

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vigorm0rtis
12/22/19 7:15:13 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
well there is no one (except for a private transaction with a friend or family member) who is going to give you a loan without a stipulation like that. they make their money off interest. more money due = more interest.

No.

I consolidated fresh out of college with no such stipulation.

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Mizznox
12/22/19 7:16:51 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...

well there is no one (except for a private transaction with a friend or family member) who is going to give you a loan without a stipulation like that. they make their money off interest. more money due = more interest.

"no one"? Every single car loan (using like ~10 different lenders regularly) that gets signed where I work has no such penalties.
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nemu
12/22/19 7:22:04 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
well there is no one (except for a private transaction with a friend or family member) who is going to give you a loan without a stipulation like that. they make their money off interest. more money due = more interest.
Most decent institutions will just count on the human condition paying things back over a long period of time vs rushing to pay it off.
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TheVipaGTS
12/22/19 7:23:20 PM
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Interesting...

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Esrac
12/22/19 7:47:57 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Interesting...

Yeah. I've had several loans from different financial institutions. Not once have I ever had an early payment penalty.

The closest thing is a stipulation that any extra payments aren't applied to the amount due on the next month.
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linid0t
12/22/19 7:50:24 PM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
It's not unless you consolidate with a shitty bank.

So then its OP who is at fault. Sorry op
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emblem boy
12/22/19 7:53:45 PM
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I've heard early payment fees can be a thing for like car leases, but ya. I've never heard of it being a thing for most college loans. Hell, doesn't great lakes give you like a 0.25% interest deduction just for setting up auto pay
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Sad_Face
12/22/19 7:55:14 PM
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While I'm still not cool with my parents making me go to college, I'm glad my parents were able to pay my way through school. I'm not detailed oriented enough to pay attention to the fine print at these things and would get caught in all these tricks should I be forced to take out a loan.
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Sexypwnstar
12/22/19 8:29:22 PM
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Sad_Face posted...
While I'm still not cool with my parents making me go to college, I'm glad my parents were able to pay my way through school. I'm not detailed oriented enough to pay attention to the fine print at these things and would get caught in all these tricks should I be forced to take out a loan.

@Sad_Face

Aren't you the crypto guy? What's GOOD on the crypto market for a newbie?

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brandunh11
12/22/19 10:06:43 PM
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Esrac posted...
Yeah. I've had several loans from different financial institutions. Not once have I ever had an early payment penalty.

The closest thing is a stipulation that any extra payments aren't applied to the amount due on the next month.

This. Every time Ive gotten any type of loan, I specifically ask if theres a pre-payment penalty. In my case, the answer has always been no.

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TheMikh
12/22/19 10:11:07 PM
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banks make money off of interest, so they're presumably price gouging the people that are paying ahead of time to recoup their losses

disgusting really

imo all forms of usury should be banned

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Flockaveli
12/22/19 10:15:14 PM
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Good thing this is a joke account and nothing you post is true.

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Fenrimis
12/22/19 10:22:16 PM
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I paid my student loans off before repayment and they didnt have any Prepayment Penalty, but from googling sounds like can happen with some mortgage loans that come attached with lower rates.


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Ethosian
12/22/19 10:24:27 PM
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Prepayment penalty for student loans? Wtf? Never heard of that nonsense
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Sad_Face
12/23/19 8:51:00 AM
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Sexypwnstar posted...
Aren't you the crypto guy? What's GOOD on the crypto market for a newbie?
@Sexypwnstar
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Blockchain tech in general
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl8OlkkwRpc

The potential of smartcontracts
https://blog.chain.link/44-ways-to-enhance-your-smart-contract-with-chainlink/

Chainlink's comparison to HTTP
https://blog.chain.link/interoperability-and-connectivity-unlocking-smart-contracts-3-0-2/

Chainlink community growth comparison to the WWW
https://enclaveresearch.com/comments-on-the-chainlink-white-paper-parallels-to-early-web/

Other miscellaneous info
chainlinkhub.com

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Sexypwnstar
12/23/19 5:14:09 PM
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Nice I'm at work atm but I'll look that over when I get home

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