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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 9:58:35 AM #1: |
Hes gonna get impeached but he aint getting removed so it makes the whole thing pointless. It gives Trump what he wants. He gets to play the victim card again so he can bitch & moan about how hes treated unfairly
Also polling with independents for impeachment aint looking so hot right now. The left doesnt understand that they need independents in swing states to beat Trump. Impeachment might play well to the far left base but no so much for independents --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 12/18/19 9:59:49 AM #2: |
It must be fascinating to live in your world.
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Iran 12/18/19 10:00:31 AM #3: |
No. Most Americans want impeachment.
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NinjaWarrior455 12/18/19 10:00:31 AM #4: |
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Tmaster148 12/18/19 10:01:05 AM #5: |
So you are saying that putting the president on trial for crimes is a bad thing.
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vigorm0rtis 12/18/19 10:02:24 AM #6: |
Possibly, but not as much as Trump's dipshit trade war will harm him.
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:02:33 AM #7: |
Tmaster148 posted...
So you are saying that putting the president on trial for crimes is a bad thing. Its pointless when the demon turtle made it clear that Trump is above the law and he will make the trial into a dog & pony show --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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John_Galt 12/18/19 10:02:45 AM #8: |
Yes
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Pogo_Marimo 12/18/19 10:02:48 AM #9: |
The problem is that independents by and large, and anyone who doesn't think Trump has abused the power of his office regarding Ukraine, are idiots.
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Tmaster148 12/18/19 10:03:37 AM #10: |
Bluebomber182 posted...
Its pointless when the demon turtle made it clear that Trump is above the law and he will make the trial into a dog & pony show So you want to live in a world where the president is free to commit crimes and not be held accountable for them. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:04:15 AM #11: |
Iran posted...
No. Most Americans want impeachment. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/public_approval_of_the_impeachment_and_removal_of_president_trump-6957.html --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:05:19 AM #12: |
Tmaster148 posted...
I want accountability but it aint happening with Mitch in power. Democrats need to learn to pick their battles instead of going balls deep on a lost cause --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Link43130 12/18/19 10:06:36 AM #13: |
Bluebomber182 posted...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/public_approval_of_the_impeachment_and_removal_of_president_trump-6957.htmllike the polls that said trump had no way of winning in 2016 right? --- Steam/XBL/PSN: Link43130 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 12/18/19 10:06:38 AM #14: |
Independents aren't going to randomly "feel bad" for Trump being justifiably impeached. As for "playing victim", he's been doing that since 2016.
Not Impeaching is what would kill Democrats, as that would basically be saying "Everything Trump did was fine". Staying silent is little different from approval. Trump isn't getting removed because the GOP doesn't have the stones, but at the very least it will go down in the history books who defended Trump. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeoShadowhen 12/18/19 10:06:45 AM #15: |
Iran posted...
No. Most Americans want impeachment. That used to be the case. Now its debatable. The RCP average shows that more people do not favor impeachment/removal, and if you want to argue against that, you need to resort to the whole use this survey but not that survey. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 12/18/19 10:07:15 AM #16: |
Bluebomber182 posted...
I want accountability but it aint happening with Mitch in power. Democrats need to learn to pick their battles instead of going balls deep on a lost cause But you are pushing for lack of accountability. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:08:26 AM #17: |
Link43130 posted...
Most of these polls say that people are souring on impeachment --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 12/18/19 10:08:27 AM #18: |
May I point out that you made a topic just yesterday about how the Politics board didn't agree with you on this subject and you came here and whined, calling them "an echo chamber for the left"?
With that out of the way, we don't impeach presidents as a move for political gain. We impeach presidents because we believe and would like the opportunity to establish that they are unfit for office. So, we have a moral and legal imperative to impeach. Not impeaching shows that the entire government truly is completely useless at the job it has set out to do. Impeachment in this case will more than likely show that one very specific aspect of our government, the Republican bloc of the Senate, is the real issue of uselessness. Who among voters will look at the situation of a president being impeached and being acquitted by a clearly biased Republican bloc of Senate and say "well, I didn't vote for Trump before, but I guess I gotta vote for him now"? --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HydraSlayer82 12/18/19 10:09:15 AM #19: |
That poll is impeach and remove vs. no. IIRC 54% support just impeach.
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:09:55 AM #20: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Focus on getting Mitch out first. Hes why there will never be accountability --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 12/18/19 10:10:47 AM #21: |
Probably. It worked for Clinton when he got impeached, but that was a way different accusation
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NeoShadowhen 12/18/19 10:11:44 AM #22: |
HydraSlayer82 posted...
That poll is impeach and remove vs. no. IIRC 54% support just impeach. Which would mean there is a percentage of respondents who want him to be impeached but not removed. Those are probably the people that think it will be good for him. but unless you have a source, theres no point in discussing it further. Was it just one poll? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 12/18/19 10:12:46 AM #23: |
Bluebomber182 posted...
Focus on getting Mitch out first. Hes why there will never be accountabilityAnd when is it possible to remove Moscow Mitch? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 12/18/19 10:13:41 AM #24: |
TC really wants Trump to get away without any accountability if he's pushing this hard to ignore impeachment.
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HydraSlayer82 12/18/19 10:14:18 AM #25: |
NeoShadowhen posted...
Which would mean there is a percentage of respondents who want him to be impeached but not removed. Those are probably the people that think it will be good for him.It was a Fox News poll posted on here. So there you go. --- Sigless user ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jumi 12/18/19 10:15:52 AM #26: |
_Rinku_ posted...
And when is it possible to remove Moscow Mitch? Election day 2020. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:16:19 AM #27: |
_Rinku_ posted...
Mitch is even hatred by republicans in his own state. Get a good candidate to run against him and go all in on that race --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 12/18/19 10:17:48 AM #28: |
Bluebomber182 posted...
Mitch is even hatred by republicans in his own state. Get a good candidate to run against him and go all in on that raceI like how you didn't answer my question. You just want to keep pushing it off while you pretend it's a solution. Typical. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:18:44 AM #29: |
Tmaster148 posted...
TC really wants Trump to get away without any accountability if he's pushing this hard to ignore impeachment. I fucking hate Trump and if I thought there was a chance at removing the asshole Id support impeachment. But Mitch puts party over country and doesnt give a shit about accountability --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 12/18/19 10:19:40 AM #30: |
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Umbreon 12/18/19 10:20:56 AM #31: |
Bluebomber, answer me this.
Are you secretly a Trump supporter, or just a coward? Here's the thing. Your argument seems to be "Don't do the right thing, because it may not be immediately beneficial". You're saying not only that there is "no point" in Impeaching Trump because Mitch will bail him our, but also trying to say that "Independents will feel bad and vote for him in 2020" despite that? What do you think would happen if we just ignored all the things Trump has done, and waited until 2020 to try to kick Mitch out? In the best light, you are suggesting to ignore an evil because of political inconvenience. That is how evil continues on. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:21:17 AM #32: |
_Rinku_ posted...
Mitch is up for reelection next year. McGrath is a good candidate to run against him --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HydraSlayer82 12/18/19 10:22:14 AM #33: |
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-trump-job-approval-ticks-up-views-on-impeachment-steady.amp
Correction: 54% support at least impeachment. --- Sigless user ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 12/18/19 10:22:33 AM #34: |
Bluebomber182 posted...
Mitch is up for reelection next year. McGrath is a good candidate to run against himAnd you want us to just ignore all the problems with Trump til then... conveniently when he'll be up for re-election as well. You know that everyone can see through what you're doing, right? It's not subtle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 12/18/19 10:22:39 AM #35: |
What's stopping us from doing both?
Impeaching Trump and kicking Mitch out? --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 12/18/19 10:23:46 AM #36: |
Umbreon posted...
Are you secretly a Trump supporter, or just a coward? If it helps, he was posting just yesterday about how the politics board is a leftist echo chamber. So I think the answer is pretty obvious. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:26:38 AM #37: |
Again I fucking hate Trump. I would rather die than support him
I can just see the forest through the trees. Trump has gotten away with too much already because the gop lets him get off scot free. Trump is a symptom and Mitch is the virus I have no faith in the voter base after 2016. Call me a cynic or a pessimist but I dont believe most voters give a shit about his crimes. They only care about what affects their wallet --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 12/18/19 10:27:15 AM #38: |
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creativerealms 12/18/19 10:27:29 AM #39: |
In a rational world the actions of the republicans and their clear refusial to follow the rules should back fire on them.
Sadly we don't live in a rational world. So yeah this will somehow hurt the democrats more. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:28:30 AM #40: |
Tmaster148 posted...
I was a republican turned democrat. That board literally thinks anyone who is or ever voted republican is evil --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 12/18/19 10:29:00 AM #41: |
Tmaster148 posted...
I get it, you really want your man Trump to not be held accountable.Just shut the fuck up. Some of you people are just as bad as the Republicans you complain about. --- I presume my time here in my darkblack dragondark steel-obliterating solitude has come to its end as well. http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 12/18/19 10:29:57 AM #42: |
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Just shut the fuck up. Some of you people are just as bad as the Republicans you complain about. You poor thing. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 12/18/19 10:30:12 AM #43: |
Bluebomber182 posted...
I can just see the forest through the trees.Was the point of this topic for you to just let everyone know that you're smarter than them? --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 12/18/19 10:30:55 AM #44: |
Tmaster148 posted...
You poor thing.I don't scour the internet trying to make enemies with everyone who doesn't share my exact opinions. It is not I who deserves pity. --- I presume my time here in my darkblack dragondark steel-obliterating solitude has come to its end as well. http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:31:18 AM #45: |
Tmaster148 posted...
I get it, you really want your man Trump to not be held accountable. Good to know that you cant read --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 12/18/19 10:32:31 AM #46: |
Pogo_Marimo posted...
I don't scour the internet trying to make enemies with everyone who doesn't share my exact opinions. It is not I who deserves pity. Yet you got aggressive at me for no reason. Really coming from someone not trying to make enemies with others. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:33:59 AM #47: |
CyricZ posted...
No I answered the guys question. Hasnt the last 4 years taught the left that the normal rules and logic dont apply to Trump? Its unbelievable what hes able to get away with because Mitch and other hacks in the gop let him slide --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 12/18/19 10:34:34 AM #48: |
Bluebomber182 posted...
No I answered the guys question. Hasnt the last 4 years taught the left that the normal rules and logic dont apply to Trump? Its unbelievable what hes able to get away with because Mitch and other hacks in the gop let him slide It's because people like you let him get away with stuff and refuse to let anyone hold him accountable. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 12/18/19 10:34:52 AM #49: |
Itt: it is impossible to walk and chew gum at the same time
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Bluebomber182 12/18/19 10:36:23 AM #50: |
Tmaster148 posted...
I dont have any power dude. Again what part of me saying Mitch is the problem do you not get. But it aint just him its Nunes Jordan Gaetz and his other flunkies too --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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