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jumi
12/13/19 11:53:32 AM
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RE_expert44 posted...
punished by who?

ICE.

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Antifar
12/13/19 12:01:26 PM
#52:


Rebel_Patriot posted...
Its not racist, proponents of illegal immigration (which is dangerous)

What makes it dangerous?
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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 12:04:05 PM
#53:


BadderHare posted...
Because there's no logical argument against immigration.

Here in America there is statistical evidence that Mexicans do not assimilate well into American society and culture.

My sociology textbook even says so as well.

I personally think its questionable but if its true, it could be why we've been seeing such a psh to build a wall to prevent anymore crossing the border from there.

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BadderHare
12/13/19 12:07:18 PM
#54:


KINDERFELD posted...
Here in America there is statistical evidence that Mexicans do not assimilate well into American society and culture.

sure thing buddy
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TheMikh
12/13/19 12:07:36 PM
#55:


Antifar posted...
What makes it dangerous?

the ethnic cleansing and terrorizing of black neighborhoods by gangs of illegal immigrants in southern california is well documented

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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 12:09:47 PM
#56:


BadderHare posted...
sure thing buddy

If I didn't have to start getting ready for work, I'd actually go find and post the research.

But yeah, educational institutions are teaching this based off countless studies that show this.

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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 12:13:28 PM
#57:


BadderHare posted...
sure thing buddy

https://www.nber.org/chapters/c0099.pdf

https://www.nap.edu/read/4942/chapter/5#33

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BadderHare
12/13/19 12:15:24 PM
#58:


KINDERFELD posted...
If I didn't have to start getting ready for work, I'd actually go find and post the research.

Oh man, what bad luck! I was so eager to read all that data that definitely exist, oh well!

Anti-Mexican sentiment is the exact same kind of brainless demagoguery that has been aimed at every immigrant group to ever exist in the US. Dumb people assured us that the Italians, Germans and Irish weren't assimilating either.
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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 12:15:28 PM
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https://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1068&context=blrlj

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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 12:16:38 PM
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BadderHare posted...
Oh man, what bad luck! I was so eager to read all that data that definitely exist, oh well!

Anti-Mexican sentiment is the exact same kind of brainless demagoguery that has been aimed at every immigrant group to ever exist in the US. Dumb people assured us that the Italians, Germans and Irish weren't assimilating either.

Dude don't attack the messenger.
I even said I found these stats questionable but I'm being honest when I tell you that colleges are teaching this stuff based on many many studies that show this evidence.

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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 12:20:54 PM
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@BadderHare where did you go?

????


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SocksForWok999
12/13/19 12:21:19 PM
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Its not racist but some people will say otherwise...

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BadderHare
12/13/19 12:30:53 PM
#63:


KINDERFELD posted...
@BadderHare where did you go?

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Reading your 20 year old data that doesn't back up anything you said.

Stop taking a snapshot of first generation immigrants when you want to actually look at something like assimilation that takes place over time.
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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 12:38:43 PM
#64:


BadderHare posted...
Reading your 20 year old data that doesn't back up anything you said.

Stop taking a snapshot of first generation immigrants when you want to actually look at something like assimilation that takes place over time.

Hence why its 20 years of research my friend. THINK!!
Again, you attacking me does not change the fact that this is what is being taught in colleges throughout America.

Instead of attacking me, why not try and read up on some of these studies.
Instead you choose to attack me because your feelings got hurt.

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BadderHare
12/13/19 12:47:02 PM
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I didn't say 20 years worth of data, I said 20 year old data as your studies are literally from 1997. But yeah I'm the one who isn't thinking here.

Instead of making a fool of yourself, why not try and read up on up to date studies that actually measure data over time? No wait then you would realize English proficiency and educational attainment have dramatically risen among Hispanic Americans in the last view decades.
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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 1:04:42 PM
#66:


BadderHare posted...
I didn't say 20 years worth of data, I said 20 year old data as your studies are literally from 1997. But yeah I'm the one who isn't thinking here.

Instead of making a fool of yourself, why not try and read up on up to date studies that actually measure data over time? No wait then you would realize English proficiency and educational attainment have dramatically risen among Hispanic Americans in the last view decades.

Again, attacking the messenger and moving the goalposts.
First you claim there was no evidence now its too old for you.

Buddy I have given you multiple sources of evidence to backup the fact that educational institutions are teaching that Mexicans do not assimilate well into American culture.

Sorry this hurts you on a personal level but that's what's happening in America and could be why we've been seeing so much emphasis being placed on limiting them from crossing the border illegally.

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MudKip_Master
12/13/19 1:05:49 PM
#67:


BadderHare posted...
Because there's no logical argument against immigration.

The argument isn't against legal immigration.
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BadderHare
12/13/19 1:09:17 PM
#68:


KINDERFELD posted...
Again, attacking the messenger.

Calling you out on posting decades old studies that you didn't even read is not "attacking the messenger".

I've said from the start that anti-immigrant sentiment is based on misinformation and you've proven that, thanks.
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Rebel_Patriot
12/13/19 1:10:28 PM
#69:


jumi posted...
ICE.
you mean Congress. ICE enforces laws put forth by congress. A Congress currently controlled by Dems BTW. Theyre preoccupied with making sure bad orange man gets another glorious term.

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Rebel_Patriot
12/13/19 1:13:41 PM
#70:


MudKip_Master posted...
The argument isn't against legal immigration.
Yeah but if they concede that, theyll lose all ground to stand on. They have to pretend that being against unchecked and unregulated people and things to coming into our country is just people being mean and racist.

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BadderHare
12/13/19 1:15:34 PM
#71:


Rebel_Patriot posted...
Yeah but if they concede that, theyll lose all ground to stand on. They have to pretend that being against unchecked and unregulated people and things to coming into our country is just people being mean and racist.


MudKip_Master posted...
The argument isn't against legal immigration.

Pretending modern right-wing movements aren't trying to prevent legal immigration was the only way to make this topic dumber, but you did it.
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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 1:16:56 PM
#72:


BadderHare posted...
Calling you out on posting decades old studies that you didn't even read is not "attacking the messenger".

I've said from the start that anti-immigrant sentiment is based on misinformation and you've proven that, thanks.

Wait wait wait, does that change the fact that this is what is being taught in colleges throughout America?

Attacking me does not change that fact.

Maybe you should take your personal feelings out of this and then you'll see things clearly.

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BadderHare
12/13/19 1:19:23 PM
#73:


KINDERFELD posted...
Wait wait wait, does that change the fact that this is what is being taught in colleges throughout America?

no one cares about this claim dude

you originally said there is statistical evidence that Mexican Americans aren't assimilating, don't move the goalpost
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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 1:23:59 PM
#74:


BadderHare posted...
no one cares about this claim dude

you originally said there is statistical evidence that Mexican Americans aren't assimilating, don't move the goalpost

"Dude" this is what college students are learning.

You may not care because you are trying your best to make it appear like its my personal view and like I made up the evidences that I've posted.

Understand that when this is what is being taught in colleges in America, these students see what is happening at the boarders as legitimate.

Again, try and take your personal feelings out of this and quit attacking the messenger because you disagree with the content of the message.

Smh.

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Antifar
12/13/19 1:24:00 PM
#75:


Rebel_Patriot posted...
A Congress currently controlled by Dems BTW.

This is not true; Republicans control the Senate
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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 1:24:24 PM
#76:


BadderHare posted...
no one cares about this claim dude

you originally said there is statistical evidence that Mexican Americans aren't assimilating, don't move the goalpost

There is statistical evidence of this dude. I posted multiple sources and you said they didn't count because they were too old.



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BadderHare
12/13/19 1:28:44 PM
#77:


KINDERFELD posted...
"Dude" this is what college students are learning.
I would love to see proof that outdated studies on Mexican Americans are part of every schools curriculum for some reason but something tells me you're as wrong about that as you were about your last claim.

People who are the messenger don't get this invested when they find out it's wrong. Stop digging and move on.
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hockeybub89
12/13/19 1:29:53 PM
#78:


Today's immigrants are tomorrow's natives bitching about immigrants

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BadderHare
12/13/19 1:30:48 PM
#79:


KINDERFELD posted...
There is statistical evidence of this dude. I posted multiple sources and you said they didn't count because they were too old.

Oh so now you're not just the messenger you actually believe in this again, based on studies you didn't read.

No, snapshots of first generation immigrants from 20 years ago do not give us an accurate picture of assimilation. You've already been told so.

PLEASE go to that job you supposedly had to be at an hour ago, you're having a nightmare of a topic.
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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 1:32:08 PM
#80:


BadderHare posted...
I would love to see proof that outdated studies on Mexican Americans are part of every schools curriculum for some reason but something tells me you're as wrong about that as you were about your last claim.

People who are the messenger don't get this invested when they find out it's wrong. Stop digging and move on.

I'll pick this up a little later. I have work to do.
But yeah, I personally had issue learning this stuff(current grad student) but I can assure you this is what is being taught in psychology and sociology classes.
I myself was in one of those classes a few semesters ago so I'm telling you facts.

You spewing the evidences I posted as irrelevant because of the reasons you deem personally, does not alter this fact.

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OctilIery
12/13/19 1:38:49 PM
#81:


Supporting immigration isn't racist if it's based on actual facts and figures, but it never is. Immigration helps every aspect of our country and should be supported. There is not a single viable argument for restricting immigration, because all the arguments involve falsehoods, cherrypicking, or missing key details.
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BadderHare
12/13/19 1:40:15 PM
#82:


Of all your dumb claims, I think I like "hatred of immigrants comes from college students" the most.

And no, I didn't casually dismiss your "evidence". I actually took the time to read it (you didn't) and pointed out why it didn't even address assimilation. There is zero statistical evidence showing Mexican Americans don't assimilate, you would have saved yourself a ton of time admitting you were wrong in the first place.
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BadderHare
12/13/19 1:42:04 PM
#83:


anyway this topic sucks and is now about how comically wrong kinder is


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BadderHare
12/13/19 1:42:35 PM
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BadderHare
12/13/19 1:44:37 PM
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BadderHare
12/13/19 1:47:33 PM
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The homeownership rate for Hispanics has increased more during the past several years than any race or ethnic group, including whites.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/wave-of-hispanic-buyers-boosts-u-s-housing-market-11563183000

Median income for Hispanic households rose 3.7% in 2017, to $50,486, adjusted for inflation. That easily outpaced a 1.8% increase for all households, according to new census data released Wednesday.
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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 1:54:44 PM
#87:


Isn't it utterly ridiculous that I mention MEXICANS but @BadderHare is posting stats that combine ALL HISPANIC GROUPS to make himself appear somewhat logical and sensible.



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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 1:57:46 PM
#88:


Carry on with your circus.

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BadderHare
12/13/19 2:04:15 PM
#89:


Mexican Americans make up over 60% of the Hispanic population in the US, but I understand you're desperate. Very rarely do people get ethered this badly.
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ThanksUglyGod
12/13/19 2:15:39 PM
#90:


Saying Mexicans can't assimilate to American culture seems like a pretty poor way to prove to everyone that you're not racist
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Antifar
12/13/19 2:44:11 PM
#91:


It seems unlikely that other Hispanic groups would be better at assimilating than the one whose homeland is closest to the US.
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iPhone_7
12/13/19 2:49:02 PM
#92:


Build brides not walls!
Open borders not closed!
F*** Trump!

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Unknown834
12/13/19 2:51:12 PM
#93:


"Brown people bad!" - TC
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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 3:43:33 PM
#94:


BadderHare posted...
Mexican Americans make up over 60% of the Hispanic population in the US, but I understand you're desperate. Very rarely do people get ethered this badly.

You are ridiculous and pretty much carrying on a circus.

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BadderHare
12/13/19 4:04:08 PM
#95:


KINDERFELD posted...
You are ridiculous and pretty much carrying on a circus.

You are like the poster child for weird online dude who handles being wrong as badly as they possibly can, and thinks digging a hole will mitigate it

Sorry I had to be the one to tell you Mexicans are assimilating, didn't know it would make you so mad
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KINDERFELD
12/13/19 4:14:03 PM
#96:


BadderHare posted...
You are like the poster child for weird online dude who handles being wrong as badly as they possibly can, and thinks digging a hole will mitigate it

Sorry I had to be the one to tell you Mexicans are assimilating, didn't know it would make you so mad

Thank God folks aren't relying on your ability to do statistics.
You're carrying on a circus all by yourself and you thinking you can group together all hispanics to make judgment on Mexicans shows how little you understand.

Anyone with common sense will end any attempt at a debate with you after such a blatant display of ignorance.

Carry on with your circus.

Smh



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Rebel_Patriot
12/13/19 4:21:49 PM
#98:


Antifar posted...
This is not true; Republicans control the Senate
republicans arent complaining about ICE

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SmidgeIsntBack
12/13/19 4:22:31 PM
#99:


@BadderHare can I take over as head clown now that Kinder quit

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BadderHare
12/13/19 4:29:07 PM
#100:


KINDERFELD posted...
Thank God folks aren't relying on your ability to do statistics.

Says the guy who thinks Hispanics can have such massive gains if over 60% of them aren't gaining anything.

I mean yeah sure, over 90% speak English, but how do we know that 60% of them can?????? I m very smart statistics guy :)
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