Current Events > Wait China is going to ban all foreign tech for government and public offices?

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LightHawKnight
12/09/19 10:46:53 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9fjcqbBdWQ

So they can only use those Chinese knockoffs of lower quality for their government eh.

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Manocheese
12/09/19 10:47:16 PM
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RIP Wait China
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
12/09/19 10:47:55 PM
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They have a Chinese Government version of Windows anyway, they'll be fine.
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008Zulu
12/09/19 10:49:00 PM
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A lot of the tech in Chinese made computers, is made by American companies. It's not like China can just steal the designs, and oh wait.

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LightHawKnight
12/09/19 10:55:32 PM
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008Zulu posted...
A lot of the tech in Chinese made computers, is made by American companies. It's not like China can just steal the designs, and oh wait.

Foreign companies can still sue and sanction them for breaking copyright/patent laws can't they?

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008Zulu
12/10/19 3:01:04 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Foreign companies can still sue and sanction them for breaking copyright/patent laws can't they?
They have to prove it. Then they have to convince everyone else to go against the world's biggest economy.

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ROBANN_88
12/10/19 3:11:07 AM
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It's probably so they have control over how much spyware is in it

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gloBal enemy
12/10/19 4:18:57 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Foreign companies can still sue and sanction them for breaking copyright/patent laws can't they?

In which court/jurisdiction though?

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TheBlueMonk_
12/10/19 4:20:05 AM
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Huawei is actually making a lot of great phones that rival apple, samsung, etc.

you just can't buy them in america.

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Rika_Furude
12/10/19 5:08:53 AM
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It would be best for everyone if the US + Allies just banned all trade with China and travel to/from China. Just fuck them right off and ignore them completely.

Like they're seriously trying to do this during a global environment crisis and are just going to fuck over the world harder by replacing all non-chinese electronics. They should literally fuck off to a different planet and stop ruining this one. They don't even give their citizens basic human rights.

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gloBal enemy
12/10/19 5:51:52 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
It would be best for everyone if the US + Allies just banned all trade with China and travel to/from China. Just fuck them right off and ignore them completely.

Like they're seriously trying to do this during a global environment crisis and are just going to fuck over the world harder by replacing all non-chinese electronics. They should literally fuck off to a different planet and stop ruining this one. They don't even give their citizens basic human rights.

Everyone is happy to jump on board this train until they realise the cost of so many things in their life will go up (or become unavailable), and there is real potential for unemployment to rise in the short term too.

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Rika_Furude
12/10/19 8:18:15 AM
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gloBal enemy posted...
Everyone is happy to jump on board this train until they realise the cost of so many things in their life will go up (or become unavailable), and there is real potential for unemployment to rise in the short term too.

they will just have to adapt to a world without china. until china is ready to pull its head out of its ass they dont deserve trading rights with the rest of the world. unfortunately they wont actually be revoked but it should happen

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Wewillrocku
12/10/19 8:22:11 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
It would be best for everyone if the US + Allies just banned all trade with China and travel to/from China. Just fuck them right off and ignore them completely.

Like they're seriously trying to do this during a global environment crisis and are just going to fuck over the world harder by replacing all non-chinese electronics. They should literally fuck off to a different planet and stop ruining this one. They don't even give their citizens basic human rights.
speaking of different planets...

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LightHawKnight
12/10/19 10:17:18 AM
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gloBal enemy posted...
In which court/jurisdiction though?

If they steal from every other foreign country, cant they all band together to fuck up China?

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TheMikh
12/10/19 10:18:59 AM
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it makes sense

when china offers to invest in the governments of foreign countries, it tends to include surveillance mechanisms in the technology it provides

they'd hate to have the same happen to them

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gloBal enemy
12/10/19 5:31:31 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
they will just have to adapt to a world without china. until china is ready to pull its head out of its ass they dont deserve trading rights with the rest of the world. unfortunately they wont actually be revoked but it should happen

Whilst I dont agree with all of the ways that they do things (and I use that term to generalise about both private and public sectors), theyve done well to establish themselves as a key market for everyone else. In other words I dont think anyone is going to race to be the first to pull out entirely in 2019 as itll be both economic and political suicide in many cases even if individuals dont agree with some of the practices. Heck everyone is against sweat shops yet the majority are still wearing clothes which likely originated there or at least were made from materials produced under less than desirable conditions.

LightHawKnight posted...
If they steal from every other foreign country, cant they all band together to fuck up China?

i dont think you quite understand the broader issue here- the companies can steal IP because there is weak enforcement of weak IP rules to begin with, the courts are perceived to have a bias to the home team and even within the manufacturing sector, companies and individuals dont value the intellectual property and instead compete on efficiency and execution.

That last point is a fundamentally different mindset to many of us in the West where we usually value and recognise the creativity or ideas person who came up with the idea over the person who actually executed on it.


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