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REMercsChamp
12/06/19 3:46:16 PM
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I think it's fucked up putting people in cages

Also the vast majority of criminals aren't even caught so how's that fair to the guys who are

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krazychao5
12/06/19 3:54:02 PM
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Yadoken
12/06/19 3:55:23 PM
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I agree with TC, instead of locked in cages costing us 100k a year per person, we should just kill anyone who commits a crime.

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REMercsChamp
12/06/19 3:57:23 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
What would you suggest instead?
You can explain to them why what they did was wrong and then they can get back to living their lives

The government/banks can write off any damage or losses

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REMercsChamp
12/06/19 4:25:58 PM
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up

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TheMikh
12/06/19 4:31:50 PM
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the only people that deserve to be in prison are those who commit violence, property, or fraud crimes

honestly though, i disagree with locking people up, as the prison system is utterly broken and corrupt; rather, adults that are found guilty beyond any reasonable doubt of committing crimes of the aforementioned nature should just be stripped of citizenship and deported

or maybe a 51st state should be created where all criminals are dumped a la australia

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REMercsChamp
12/06/19 4:56:46 PM
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TheMikh posted...
fraud crimes
Why do these deserve prison?

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TheMikh
12/06/19 5:09:01 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
Why do these deserve prison?

it's tantamount to property crime

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Villain
12/06/19 5:10:16 PM
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Murders and rapists?

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DemonBuffet
12/06/19 5:11:31 PM
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Because you cant rehabilitate repeat offenders.
You expect to have a nice talk to criminals and expect them not to hinder or hurt the innocent?
Evil people exist and some folks want to pretend they can be saved.

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krazychao5
12/06/19 5:11:32 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
You can explain to them why what they did was wrong and then they can get back to living their lives

The government/banks can write off any damage or losses
Why would that be effective?

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Questionmarktarius
12/06/19 5:14:37 PM
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If anything, it's fines that need to be abolished.

If the offense isn't severe enough for incarceration, or at least probation, maybe it shouldn't be a crime?
Also, if a CEO has to spend a few years in the pokey instead of the company merely writing off a few million dollars, maybe companies would behave better.
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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/06/19 5:15:20 PM
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Remove the word "deserves" from your vocabulary
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krazychao5
12/06/19 5:16:02 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If anything, it's fines that need to be abolished.

If the offense isn't severe enough for incarceration, or at least probation, maybe it shouldn't be a crime?
Also, if a CEO has to spend a few years in the pokey instead of the company merely writing off a few million dollars, maybe companies would behave better.
Nah, it would be better to make fines a % of net income or wealth or other financial indicator. Make the $20 mil CEO pay $10k for reckless driving ticket or whatever.

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Questionmarktarius
12/06/19 5:19:05 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
Make the $20 mil CEO pay $10k for reckless driving ticket or whatever.
All that does is create incentive for patsies.
"That guy actually did it, and insists that he did it! The fact I gave him money equal to double what his fine would be is completely irrelevant!"
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krazychao5
12/06/19 5:20:50 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
All that does is create incentive for patsies.
"That guy actually did it, and insists that he did it! The fact I gave him money equal to double what his fine would be is completely irrelevant!"
So they just gonna somehow replace their self with someone else while driving the car? Or bait n switch the cop in court and say they pulled over the wrong guy? Or do things like hire a hitman, which is already illegal? I'm confused by what you think a patsy would accomplish.

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Questionmarktarius
12/06/19 5:22:15 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
So they just gonna somehow replace their self with someone else while driving the car? Or bait n switch the cop in court and say they pulled over the wrong guy? Or do things like hire a hitman, which is already illegal? I'm confused by what you think a patsy would accomplish.
Specifically in the case of speeding, all this does is encourage chauffeurs.
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Damn_Underscore
12/06/19 5:23:55 PM
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Prison in the US is dumb, it's basically a crappy place for criminals to fester for X number of years before they are let out with nothing significant done to change them for the better.
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krazychao5
12/06/19 5:24:07 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Specifically in the case of speeding, all this does is encourage chauffeurs.

So, uh, what's wrong with that?

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Questionmarktarius
12/06/19 5:25:39 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
So, uh, what's wrong with that?
Well, uh...

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i got nuthin
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Damn_Underscore
12/06/19 5:31:00 PM
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krazychao5 posted...


So, uh, what's wrong with that?


The richest of the rich will be fine while the upper middle - lower rich class will get screwed.
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Hanky_Bannister
12/06/19 5:31:22 PM
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wow people are legit responding to this...
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Questionmarktarius
12/06/19 5:36:39 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The richest of the rich will be fine while the upper middle - lower rich class will get screwed.
So, uh, what else is new?
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SwordMaster13X
12/06/19 5:37:17 PM
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I read the title as do animals deserve to go to prison? <_>

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Unspecified_NPC
12/06/19 5:38:19 PM
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Cartels: *sell drugs and murder people horrifically*
Government Representative: "Hey that's wrong you should stop"
Cartels: "oh okay didn't know thanks"

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DemonBuffet
12/06/19 10:51:21 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Prison in the US is dumb, it's basically a crappy place for criminals to fester for X number of years before they are let out with nothing significant done to change them for the better.

So whats the solution? how do you propose to change them?

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GodBlessAustin
12/06/19 10:56:08 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
You can explain to them why what they did was wrong and then they can get back to living their lives

The government/banks can write off any damage or losses
That'll only fix the amoral criminals, not the immoral ones
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Damn_Underscore
12/06/19 11:21:18 PM
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DemonBuffet posted...


So whats the solution? how do you propose to change them?


First and foremost you need a huge shift in philosophy. The US + states already so much on the prison system that you may not even need to put more money into it.
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Pancake
12/06/19 11:23:12 PM
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how about community service instead of fines?

make that ceo pick up trash for a week in a nice jumper for driving like an asshole!
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SauI_Goodman
12/06/19 11:23:23 PM
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Yes.
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