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solosnake 12/06/19 12:15:06 PM #1:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpMP6Nh3FvU --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:931189390] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpMP6Nh3FvU </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 12/06/19 8:51:36 PM #2:	Why are there no photos of this james ellingson? Not even a mugshot Seems very odd to me --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:931210125] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>Why are there no photos of this james ellingson? Not even a mugshot Seems very odd to me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrK3V 12/06/19 8:52:32 PM #3:	Great video. Watched this when it got released. Made me lol at how he fucked himself up. --- "Why are you putting someone on blast in your sig? Isn't that bullying another user? You should be ashamed." - Spritelimit <cite>MrK3V posted [p:931210166] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>Great video. Watched this when it got released. Made me lol at how he fucked himself up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 12/06/19 9:00:26 PM #4:	MrK3V posted... Great video. Watched this when it got released. Made me lol at how he fucked himself up. It was really good, but seriously, try finding a photo of the scammer "Red and White" I really dont believe any exist which is a little suspect to me --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:931210472] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>MrK3V posted... </cite> <quote>Great video. Watched this when it got released. Made me lol at how he fucked himself up.</quote>It was really good, but seriously, try finding a photo of the scammer "Red and White" I really dont believe any exist which is a little suspect to me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrK3V 12/06/19 9:13:42 PM #5:	solosnake posted... It was really good, but seriously, try finding a photo of the scammer "Red and White" I really dont believe any exist which is a little suspect to me Wasn't Red and White also Lucydrops and his other friend? --- "Why are you putting someone on blast in your sig? Isn't that bullying another user? You should be ashamed." - Spritelimit <cite>MrK3V posted [p:931210991] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>solosnake posted... </cite> <quote>It was really good, but seriously, try finding a photo of the scammer "Red and White" I really dont believe any exist which is a little suspect to me</quote> Wasn't Red and White also Lucydrops and his other friend? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 12/06/19 9:14:42 PM #6:	MrK3V posted... Wasn't Red and White also Lucydrops and his other friend? yeah, apparently they were all this same dude, which is why i was curious to see a photo of him. --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:931211034] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>MrK3V posted... </cite> <quote>Wasn't Red and White also Lucydrops and his other friend?</quote>yeah, apparently they were all this same dude, which is why i was curious to see a photo of him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrK3V 12/06/19 9:15:05 PM #7:	solosnake posted... yeah, apparently they were all this same dude, which is why i was curious to see a photo of him. ohhh, I see what you mean now. --- "Why are you putting someone on blast in your sig? Isn't that bullying another user? You should be ashamed." - Spritelimit <cite>MrK3V posted [p:931211057] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>solosnake posted... </cite> <quote>yeah, apparently they were all this same dude, which is why i was curious to see a photo of him.</quote> ohhh, I see what you mean now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrK3V 12/06/19 9:23:18 PM #9:	M_Live posted... Tag for being interested it's a really good video whenever you have the time. --- "Why are you putting someone on blast in your sig? Isn't that bullying another user? You should be ashamed." - Spritelimit <cite>MrK3V posted [p:931211357] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>M_Live posted... </cite> <quote>Tag for being interested</quote> it's a really good video whenever you have the time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlazinBlue88 12/06/19 9:31:56 PM #10:	M_Live posted... Tag for being interested --- https://imgur.com/R15aJJ3 https://imgur.com/NJqp6LS <cite>BlazinBlue88 posted [p:931211704] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>M_Live posted... </cite> <quote>Tag for being interested</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sexypwnstar 12/07/19 1:18:32 AM #11:	I'm only ~4 mins in, going to sleep soon, but that info has to be extremely wrong. I remember Silk Road being a thing before 2011 when I was in middle school and people were talking about it --- https://imgur.com/Su4g5 https://imgur.com/21DiJ <cite>Sexypwnstar posted [p:931219275] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>I'm only ~4 mins in, going to sleep soon, but that info has to be extremely wrong. I remember Silk Road being a thing before 2011 when I was in middle school and people were talking about it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cornmuffins 12/07/19 1:20:02 AM #12:	It was pretty interesting --- Getting C's and D's, saying thanks and please. You broke the golden rule, you're staying after school. <cite>Cornmuffins posted [p:931219316] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>It was pretty interesting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 12/07/19 1:35:36 AM #13:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp7bBFi4xks short interview with the IRS agent who found the guy by using google searches lmfao --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:931219663] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp7bBFi4xks short interview with the IRS agent who found the guy by using google searches lmfao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SH_expert44 12/07/19 2:06:35 AM #14:	Sexypwnstar posted... I'm only ~4 mins in, going to sleep soon, but that info has to be extremely wrong. I remember Silk Road being a thing before 2011 when I was in middle school and people were talking about it yeah its like thousands of years old --- https://i.imgtc.ws/MAd5hwq.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/CwQ5SlT.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/KXfrMn5.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/ROxpJoe.gif <cite>SH_expert44 posted [p:931220386] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote> Sexypwnstar posted... </cite> <quote>I'm only ~4 mins in, going to sleep soon, but that info has to be extremely wrong. I remember Silk Road being a thing before 2011 when I was in middle school and people were talking about it</quote>yeah its like thousands of years old </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 12/09/19 12:00:40 AM #15:	checking out the videos itt tomorrow. --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:931306844] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>checking out the videos itt tomorrow. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwordMaster13X 12/09/19 12:46:27 AM #16:	Barely Sociable videos are awesome I highly recommend them --- Ask me about my community board https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1072-the-underground-garden <cite>SwordMaster13X posted [p:931308191] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>Barely Sociable videos are awesome I highly recommend them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 12/09/19 3:01:43 AM #18:	40mins in now. This is really interesting --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:931311441] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>40mins in now. This is really interesting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 12/09/19 3:46:19 AM #19:	Tag <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:931312240] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>Tag </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 12/09/19 4:01:43 AM #20:	I feel like his rights were violated in his sentencing. Not that I have an issue with him getting life, but the judge made references to crimes he hadn't been charged with when sentencing him, EI; the attempted murders. This obviously indicates she used those in consideration for what sentence he should have, even though, again, he was never charged with them. That's absurd. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:931312464] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>I feel like his rights were violated in his sentencing. Not that I have an issue with him getting life, but the judge made references to crimes he hadn't been charged with when sentencing him, EI; the attempted murders. This obviously indicates she used those in consideration for what sentence he should have, even though, again, he was never charged with them. That's absurd.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LiqiudusSnake 12/09/19 4:04:21 AM #21:	M_Live posted... Tag for being interested --- The Night King would wreck Sauron, just sayin If we are but brief cracks of light between two infinite darknesses, why do anything but flicker and extinguish? <cite>LiqiudusSnake posted [p:931312506] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>M_Live posted... </cite> <quote>Tag for being interested</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 12/09/19 4:51:27 AM #22:	metallica846 posted... One of the biggest scams in history is a bit of a stretch. It was $700k which granted would be a lot more now, but still. I was socked that they seized 144k BTC from Ross and some guy bought them for $17 million. Those coins are worth over 1 billion today GOTTTT DAMMMN! I was thinking more along the lines of like a big brother TV show scam, not in terms of monetary value. Where someone gets duped and had no idea it was coming --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:931313159] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>metallica846 posted... </cite> <quote>One of the biggest scams in history is a bit of a stretch. It was $700k which granted would be a lot more now, but still. I was socked that they seized 144k BTC from Ross and some guy bought them for $17 million. Those coins are worth over 1 billion today GOTTTT DAMMMN!</quote>I was thinking more along the lines of like a big brother TV show scam, not in terms of monetary value. Where someone gets duped and had no idea it was coming </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 12/09/19 6:20:08 AM #23:	DeadBankerDream posted... I feel like his rights were violated in his sentencing. Not that I have an issue with him getting life, but the judge made references to crimes he hadn't been charged with when sentencing him, EI; the attempted murders. This obviously indicates she used those in consideration for what sentence he should have, even though, again, he was never charged with them. That's absurd. Related but uncharged actions are valid for sentencing to justify alterations to and deviations from the sentence provided by the Sentencing Guidelines to the extent that the deviations remain within any given statutory limitations. Said uncharged actions are subjected to a lesser standard of proof than beyond reasonable doubt. That all said, the Guidelines would have hit him with a life sentence with just the amount of money involved. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:931314353] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite> <quote>I feel like his rights were violated in his sentencing. Not that I have an issue with him getting life, but the judge made references to crimes he hadn't been charged with when sentencing him, EI; the attempted murders. This obviously indicates she used those in consideration for what sentence he should have, even though, again, he was never charged with them. That's absurd.</quote>Related but uncharged actions are valid for sentencing to justify alterations to and deviations from the sentence provided by the Sentencing Guidelines to the extent that the deviations remain within any given statutory limitations. Said uncharged actions are subjected to a lesser standard of proof than beyond reasonable doubt. That all said, the Guidelines would have hit him with a life sentence with just the amount of money involved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 12/09/19 6:23:40 AM #24:	Fair enough. That doesn't seem reasonable to me, but it is what it is. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:931314403] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>Fair enough. That doesn't seem reasonable to me, but it is what it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 12/09/19 6:30:10 AM #25:	DeadBankerDream posted... Fair enough. That doesn't seem reasonable to me, but it is what it is. 18 USC 3553(a)(1) cuts both ways depending on the defendant. I've been able to help my boss get folks lighter sentences based on their history and characteristics. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:931314491] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite> <quote>Fair enough. That doesn't seem reasonable to me, but it is what it is.</quote>18 USC 3553(a)(1) cuts both ways depending on the defendant. I've been able to help my boss get folks lighter sentences based on their history and characteristics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fire_bolt 12/09/19 8:34:32 AM #26:	Tag --- Please, call me Bolt <cite>fire_bolt posted [p:931316715] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>Tag </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 12/09/19 12:56:05 PM #27:	About 10 minutes in now, and the first thing that surprised me is that there were no safety mechanisms in place for exit scams. With a small increase in overhead transaction cost from the BTC network, the money could have been sent to a middleman address (e.g., one managed by the platform) and only transferred when the transaction was finalized (or proof of shipment), and otherwise sent back to the customer in the event of a dispute or failure to do so. The term for this escapes me, but many ecommerce protocols and platforms provide for such, as does the financial system in general. This would not have prevented all forms of fraud, but it would have at least addressed exit-style scams. Back to watching. --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:931325737] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>About 10 minutes in now, and the first thing that surprised me is that there were no safety mechanisms in place for exit scams. With a small increase in overhead transaction cost from the BTC network, the money could have been sent to a middleman address (e.g., one managed by the platform) and only transferred when the transaction was finalized (or proof of shipment), and otherwise sent back to the customer in the event of a dispute or failure to do so. The term for this escapes me, but many ecommerce protocols and platforms provide for such, as does the financial system in general. This would not have prevented all forms of fraud, but it would have at least addressed exit-style scams. Back to watching. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lil_GoodOlJr_69 12/09/19 12:58:59 PM #28:	So are hitmen even a thing? This guy got duped badly <cite>lil_GoodOlJr_69 posted [p:931325846] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>So are hitmen even a thing? This guy got duped badly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Number090684 12/09/19 12:59:10 PM #29:	solosnake posted... Why are there no photos of this james ellingson? Not even a mugshot Seems very odd to me Maybe because he is a a false alias multiple ringleaders are using to draw attention away from themselves? --- US N Switch "Number" FC SW-3804-3177-9797 US PS3 / PS4 / PS Vita PSN: Number090684 <cite>Number090684 posted [p:931325854] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>solosnake posted... </cite> <quote>Why are there no photos of this james ellingson? Not even a mugshot Seems very odd to me</quote> Maybe because he is a a false alias multiple ringleaders are using to draw attention away from themselves? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 12/09/19 2:42:37 PM #30:	TheMikh posted... About 10 minutes in now, and the first thing that surprised me is that there were no safety mechanisms in place for exit scams. With a small increase in overhead transaction cost from the BTC network, the money could have been sent to a middleman address (e.g., one managed by the platform) and only transferred when the transaction was finalized (or proof of shipment), and otherwise sent back to the customer in the event of a dispute or failure to do so. The term for this escapes me, but many ecommerce protocols and platforms provide for such, as does the financial system in general. This would not have prevented all forms of fraud, but it would have at least addressed exit-style scams. Back to watching. IIRC there was such a system, but the scammer told buyers that due to size of his sale or something, I don't remember, using the system was not an option for this particular sales purchase. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:931330325] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote>About 10 minutes in now, and the first thing that surprised me is that there were no safety mechanisms in place for exit scams. With a small increase in overhead transaction cost from the BTC network, the money could have been sent to a middleman address (e.g., one managed by the platform) and only transferred when the transaction was finalized (or proof of shipment), and otherwise sent back to the customer in the event of a dispute or failure to do so. The term for this escapes me, but many ecommerce protocols and platforms provide for such, as does the financial system in general. This would not have prevented all forms of fraud, but it would have at least addressed exit-style scams. Back to watching. </quote> IIRC there was such a system, but the scammer told buyers that due to size of his sale or something, I don't remember, using the system was not an option for this particular sales purchase.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 12/09/19 2:47:19 PM #31:	can someone give me the tldr <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:931330527] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>can someone give me the tldr </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 12/09/19 2:50:02 PM #32:	tag --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. <cite>eggcorn posted [p:931330652] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 12/09/19 7:38:58 PM #33:	Number090684 posted... Maybe because he is a a false alias multiple ringleaders are using to draw attention away from themselves? I had another thought earlier. Maybe the Government recruited him. --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:931343252] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>Number090684 posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe because he is a a false alias multiple ringleaders are using to draw attention away from themselves?</quote>I had another thought earlier. Maybe the Government recruited him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
malenz 12/09/19 7:40:56 PM #34:	SH_expert44 posted... yeah its like thousands of years old lol <cite>malenz posted [p:931343335] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>SH_expert44 posted... </cite> <quote>yeah its like thousands of years old</quote>lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fire_bolt 12/09/19 8:05:51 PM #35:	Finished watching it. That was very interesting actually, and the guy doing the talking has like the perfect voice to just mellow out and listen to. Thanks TC --- Please, call me Bolt <cite>fire_bolt posted [p:931344372] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>Finished watching it. That was very interesting actually, and the guy doing the talking has like the perfect voice to just mellow out and listen to. Thanks TC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 12/09/19 8:06:36 PM #36:	Side note. This is a wonderful Youtube channel. Thanks for making me aware of it, TC. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:931344408] in I never kn... [t:78231546]...</cite> <quote>Side note. This is a wonderful Youtube channel. Thanks for making me aware of it, TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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