Current Events > if you had $30k USD roughly what sedan or hatchback would you buy

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gloBal enemy 12/05/19 11:03:46 PM #51:	Ten years = reliability and TCO matters more. And Op, given you're Aussie, do you have an AUD budget which might make it easier for me to think up realistic car choices or should I assume it's at today's spot rate (so circa $43k AUD)? --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:931170264] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Ten years = reliability and TCO matters more. And Op, given you're Aussie, do you have an AUD budget which might make it easier for me to think up realistic car choices or should I assume it's at today's spot rate (so circa $43k AUD)? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 12/05/19 11:04:48 PM #52:	hyperpowder posted... Depends on what you like. Muscle: Challenger R/T Mustang G/T Luxury: Lexus RC Mercades CLA or A class Cadillac ATS Audi S4 BMW 3 series Boring everyday sedans: Honda Civic Toyota Camery I'm personally looking at a Mercades CLA If Op is in Australia, pretty much only the Civic and Camry will be in that budget of $43k AUD ($30k equivalent). The other cars are priced quite a bit higher in Australia (but usually have better specifications), and some of them even attract LCT (luxury car tax). --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:931170301] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>hyperpowder posted... </cite> <quote>Depends on what you like. Muscle: Challenger R/T Mustang G/T Luxury: Lexus RC Mercades CLA or A class Cadillac ATS Audi S4 BMW 3 series Boring everyday sedans: Honda Civic Toyota Camery I'm personally looking at a Mercades CLA</quote> If Op is in Australia, pretty much only the Civic and Camry will be in that budget of $43k AUD ($30k equivalent). The other cars are priced quite a bit higher in Australia (but usually have better specifications), and some of them even attract LCT (luxury car tax). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 12/06/19 2:33:51 AM #53:	gloBal enemy posted... Ten years = reliability and TCO matters more. And Op, given you're Aussie, do you have an AUD budget which might make it easier for me to think up realistic car choices or should I assume it's at today's spot rate (so circa $43k AUD)? yeah thats roughly my price range. $40k AUD ish flexible and some us cars arent available in aus either ive also discovered a new type of car, a "coupe". im a real car expert now these look good as well but they are all so expensive --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:931176702] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>gloBal enemy posted... </cite> <quote>Ten years = reliability and TCO matters more. And Op, given you're Aussie, do you have an AUD budget which might make it easier for me to think up realistic car choices or should I assume it's at today's spot rate (so circa $43k AUD)?</quote>yeah thats roughly my price range. $40k AUD ish flexible and some us cars arent available in aus either ive also discovered a new type of car, a "coupe". im a real car expert now these look good as well but they are all so expensive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 12/06/19 9:40:04 AM #54:	$40k AUD seems to be the sweet spot in terms of good value. If it were me in your position and wanting a car to last ten years, just get a Corolla or a Golf. You'll be getting at least mid-high spec or maybe even sports/mainstream performance models at that price point, tonnes of practicality, good resale, decent reliability, etc. Even though I used to be a Honda fan, their recent stuff doesn't inspire confidence and feels like they are lagging behind others in safety tech. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:931184117] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>$40k AUD seems to be the sweet spot in terms of good value. If it were me in your position and wanting a car to last ten years, just get a Corolla or a Golf. You'll be getting at least mid-high spec or maybe even sports/mainstream performance models at that price point, tonnes of practicality, good resale, decent reliability, etc. Even though I used to be a Honda fan, their recent stuff doesn't inspire confidence and feels like they are lagging behind others in safety tech. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobra1010 12/06/19 9:41:03 AM #55:	A second hand Audi A6 --- GG Riot - https://imgur.com/PinGPhR https://imgur.com/Hs8Y1vQ <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:931184148] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>A second hand Audi A6 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sackgurl 12/06/19 9:42:17 AM #56:	whatever tesla i could find --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. <cite>Sackgurl posted [p:931184193] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>whatever tesla i could find </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerSlaw 12/06/19 9:43:56 AM #57:	Civic or Camry --- Do you think God stays in heaven because he, too, lives in fear of what he's created? <cite>KillerSlaw posted [p:931184233] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Civic or Camry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slaya4 12/06/19 1:08:20 PM #58:	Tesla w/ self driving. The cost of maintenance is way cheaper than a gas car and electricity is cheaper than gas. Tesla, at that price range, don't lose much value and they are fun af to drive. You pay more upfront but in 5 years time you actually own more in net worth with a Tesla. However, since your price point is in Tesla range anyways just get a Tesla. --- Am I going too hard? <cite>Slaya4 posted [p:931191839] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Tesla w/ self driving. The cost of maintenance is way cheaper than a gas car and electricity is cheaper than gas. Tesla, at that price range, don't lose much value and they are fun af to drive. You pay more upfront but in 5 years time you actually own more in net worth with a Tesla. However, since your price point is in Tesla range anyways just get a Tesla. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_A_Battery 12/06/19 1:09:27 PM #59:	I drive a 2018 Hyundai Accent Blue. <cite>A_A_Battery posted [p:931191874] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>I drive a 2018 Hyundai Accent Blue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 12/06/19 1:12:05 PM #60:	Honda or Toyota subaru if you are more adventurous <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:931191980] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Honda or Toyota subaru if you are more adventurous </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krojen 12/06/19 1:40:40 PM #61:	I'm pretty geeked to charge a Tesla with my solar structure. --- https://imgur.com/hI4hAMb <cite>Krojen posted [p:931193147] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty geeked to charge a Tesla with my solar structure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 12/06/19 2:05:59 PM #62:	BettyWhite posted... The boring cars are the only smart purchases out of all these cars. Unless you go with the Lexus. Everything else is a pretty looking hunk of shit that's gonna burn an eternal hole in your wallet. That is absolutely not true if you're buring new or used under 20k miles --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:931194243] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>BettyWhite posted... </cite> <quote>The boring cars are the only smart purchases out of all these cars. Unless you go with the Lexus. Everything else is a pretty looking hunk of shit that's gonna burn an eternal hole in your wallet.</quote> That is absolutely not true if you're buring new or used under 20k miles </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 12/07/19 2:45:56 AM #63:	Slaya4 posted... Tesla w/ self driving. The cost of maintenance is way cheaper than a gas car and electricity is cheaper than gas. Tesla, at that price range, don't lose much value and they are fun af to drive. You pay more upfront but in 5 years time you actually own more in net worth with a Tesla. However, since your price point is in Tesla range anyways just get a Tesla. Not in Australia. Even a model 3 would be close to double that budget for the base spec. And I think our electricity costs are higher than the US too. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:931221145] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Slaya4 posted... </cite> <quote>Tesla w/ self driving. The cost of maintenance is way cheaper than a gas car and electricity is cheaper than gas. Tesla, at that price range, don't lose much value and they are fun af to drive. You pay more upfront but in 5 years time you actually own more in net worth with a Tesla. However, since your price point is in Tesla range anyways just get a Tesla.</quote> Not in Australia. Even a model 3 would be close to double that budget for the base spec. And I think our electricity costs are higher than the US too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lanzol 12/07/19 3:04:44 AM #64:	Get a civic for like 9k and save the rest <cite>Lanzol posted [p:931221418] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Get a civic for like 9k and save the rest </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 12/07/19 3:11:35 AM #65:	Shit with 30 grand I'd nab a used E39 BMW M5 and put the rest into any maintenance it may need. <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:931221523] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Shit with 30 grand I'd nab a used E39 BMW M5 and put the rest into any maintenance it may need. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 12/07/19 3:20:59 AM #66:	teslas are like $100k over here and evenb over in the USA they are like 60kUSD for a model 3 --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:931221687] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>teslas are like $100k over here and evenb over in the USA they are like 60kUSD for a model 3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lil_GoodOlJr_69 12/07/19 3:24:47 AM #67:	Perascamin posted... A used tesla if possible. If not, a new Toyota Camry or Honda Civic This <cite>lil_GoodOlJr_69 posted [p:931221752] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Perascamin posted... </cite> <quote>A used tesla if possible. If not, a new Toyota Camry or Honda Civic</quote> This </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dj1200 12/07/19 4:16:54 AM #68:	Civic and put the rest in Bitcoin. --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies <cite>dj1200 posted [p:931222556] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Civic and put the rest in Bitcoin. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 12/07/19 4:51:01 AM #69:	Rika_Furude posted... teslas are like $100k over here and evenb over in the USA they are like 60kUSD for a model 3 We don't get subsidies on EVs, and the charging infrastructure is presumably a lot less developed than the US. For many people, EVs still don't make a whole lot of sense. For my most recent car purchase a few months ago I would've loved to get a Tesla but it just wasn't practical. Nowhere to charge since I live in a strata building (i.e. you'd need to submit alot of paper work and spend $10k+ to get the charger installed in your parking spot) and the places where I go, don't have EV charging. I also wouldn't be keen to have to stop/park/charge for 40mins in random locations. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:931223037] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote>teslas are like $100k over here and evenb over in the USA they are like 60kUSD for a model 3</quote> We don't get subsidies on EVs, and the charging infrastructure is presumably a lot less developed than the US. For many people, EVs still don't make a whole lot of sense. For my most recent car purchase a few months ago I would've loved to get a Tesla but it just wasn't practical. Nowhere to charge since I live in a strata building (i.e. you'd need to submit alot of paper work and spend $10k+ to get the charger installed in your parking spot) and the places where I go, don't have EV charging. I also wouldn't be keen to have to stop/park/charge for 40mins in random locations. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jetblackmoon 12/07/19 6:09:02 AM #70:	Honda Civic. When I get a different car, that's what I want to get. --- "I am for like it but on xbox, I did Titanfall as we were for cant destiny and Titanfall, side by side, I haven't much am for it, maybe seven?" - Over <cite>Jetblackmoon posted [p:931223984] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Honda Civic. When I get a different car, that's what I want to get. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 12/07/19 6:23:32 AM #71:	Yeah i dont think a tesla is a great option in aus quite yet even if i could afford it The mazda 3 astina 2019 looks great though. The major downside is the lack of a touchscreen inside --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:931224173] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Yeah i dont think a tesla is a great option in aus quite yet even if i could afford it The mazda 3 astina 2019 looks great though. The major downside is the lack of a touchscreen inside </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 12/07/19 5:58:51 PM #72:	Rika_Furude posted... Yeah i dont think a tesla is a great option in aus quite yet even if i could afford it The mazda 3 astina 2019 looks great though. The major downside is the lack of a touchscreen inside IMO touchscreens in cars are overrated. I prefer the jog dial so you dont need to look before touching and you can feel your way through. My current car has a touch screen interface and its not comfortable to use when driving since you need to look, lean forward, press, make sure it registered, etc. It has a track pad which is mildly better with its attempt at haptic feedback but I prefer something more straightforward. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:931245819] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah i dont think a tesla is a great option in aus quite yet even if i could afford it The mazda 3 astina 2019 looks great though. The major downside is the lack of a touchscreen inside</quote> IMO touchscreens in cars are overrated. I prefer the jog dial so you dont need to look before touching and you can feel your way through. My current car has a touch screen interface and its not comfortable to use when driving since you need to look, lean forward, press, make sure it registered, etc. It has a track pad which is mildly better with its attempt at haptic feedback but I prefer something more straightforward. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 12/07/19 6:32:05 PM #73:	Rika_Furude posted... Yeah i dont think a tesla is a great option in aus quite yet even if i could afford it The mazda 3 astina 2019 looks great though. The major downside is the lack of a touchscreen inside I rented a Mazda 3 back when I was in the Army to go to my Grandmothers funeral.Each corner I took I thought it was going to make me lose control. I ended up jumping a rail road track with it and tucked the dropped undercarriage back in when I returned it. --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:931246946] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah i dont think a tesla is a great option in aus quite yet even if i could afford it The mazda 3 astina 2019 looks great though. The major downside is the lack of a touchscreen inside</quote>I rented a Mazda 3 back when I was in the Army to go to my Grandmothers funeral.Each corner I took I thought it was going to make me lose control. I ended up jumping a rail road track with it and tucked the dropped undercarriage back in when I returned it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 12/07/19 6:42:29 PM #74:	I have a 2018 Honda Accord and it is freaking amazing. It has a touchscreen display that is mostly software based, rather than relying on car engineers to program UI and apps. It has Android Auto/Apple CarPlay which makes it super easy to navigate, play music, etc all without fiddling with your phone while driving. It's roomy AF on the inside and has a really smooth ride. It has great gas mileage, to the point where I only need to fill up twice a month and I can drive between major cities in Texas without filling up. I did obsessive research before buying it and I haven't been disappointed at all. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:931247347] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>I have a 2018 Honda Accord and it is freaking amazing. It has a touchscreen display that is mostly software based, rather than relying on car engineers to program UI and apps. It has Android Auto/Apple CarPlay which makes it super easy to navigate, play music, etc all without fiddling with your phone while driving. It's roomy AF on the inside and has a really smooth ride. It has great gas mileage, to the point where I only need to fill up twice a month and I can drive between major cities in Texas without filling up. I did obsessive research before buying it and I haven't been disappointed at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 12/07/19 8:21:55 PM #75:	modena posted... I rented a Mazda 3 back when I was in the Army to go to my Grandmothers funeral.Each corner I took I thought it was going to make me lose control. I ended up jumping a rail road track with it and tucked the dropped undercarriage back in when I returned it. hard to say if that experience is representative of the car itself or the fact that it was a rental. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:931251369] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>modena posted... </cite> <quote>I rented a Mazda 3 back when I was in the Army to go to my Grandmothers funeral.Each corner I took I thought it was going to make me lose control. I ended up jumping a rail road track with it and tucked the dropped undercarriage back in when I returned it.</quote> hard to say if that experience is representative of the car itself or the fact that it was a rental. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 12/07/19 8:24:04 PM #76:	legendary_zell posted... I have a 2018 Honda Accord and it is freaking amazing. the Accord is a bit of a joke here at the moment because unlike previous models which were priced competitively with say a Camry in the $30-35k AUD price point, the new one is about to be launched at $48k AUD before taxes/delivery! --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:931251453] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>I have a 2018 Honda Accord and it is freaking amazing.</quote> the Accord is a bit of a joke here at the moment because unlike previous models which were priced competitively with say a Camry in the $30-35k AUD price point, the new one is about to be launched at $48k AUD before taxes/delivery! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 12/07/19 10:10:23 PM #77:	gloBal enemy posted... the Accord is a bit of a joke here at the moment because unlike previous models which were priced competitively with say a Camry in the $30-35k AUD price point, the new one is about to be launched at $48k AUD before taxes/delivery! Holy crap. I test drove both and definitely liked the Accord more, but it's nowhere near 18k better. It's maybe 2-3k better. At that point, I agree with the people saying to get a Camry or just go futuristic with it and get a Tesla. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:931255647] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>gloBal enemy posted... </cite> <quote>the Accord is a bit of a joke here at the moment because unlike previous models which were priced competitively with say a Camry in the $30-35k AUD price point, the new one is about to be launched at $48k AUD before taxes/delivery!</quote> Holy crap. I test drove both and definitely liked the Accord more, but it's nowhere near 18k better. It's maybe 2-3k better. At that point, I agree with the people saying to get a Camry or just go futuristic with it and get a Tesla. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bevan306 12/07/19 10:12:11 PM #78:	I have a 2017 civic hatch, goes alright --- http://rateyourmusic.com/~bevan https://imgur.com/5Ta28 <cite>bevan306 posted [p:931255704] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>I have a 2017 civic hatch, goes alright </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Letron_James 12/07/19 10:39:16 PM #80:	Get a Civic or Accord if you want the most dependable A Nissan Maxima might also be an option, fun car to drive --- Ask me if I would eat da booty. <cite>Letron_James posted [p:931256748] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>Get a Civic or Accord if you want the most dependable A Nissan Maxima might also be an option, fun car to drive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 12/08/19 4:40:58 AM #81:	legendary_zell posted... Holy crap. I test drove both and definitely liked the Accord more, but it's nowhere near 18k better. It's maybe 2-3k better. At that point, I agree with the people saying to get a Camry or just go futuristic with it and get a Tesla. I personally think it's flawed that they're trying to catch people who would otherwise aspire to buy a base model Lexus or 3 series. Those guys want the badge and the luxury. Honda is neither in this segment. Note we don't have Acura here either. Alternatively it might catch people who look for the traditionally upmarket models like the Subaru liberty (legacy) or a high spec Mazda 6 but honestly I don't know if I would take a chance on Honda at the moment since they aren't leaders in the field with their current tech (also note we get our Honda's from Thailand which may miss out on some stuff you guys get in the US). --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:931267431] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>Holy crap. I test drove both and definitely liked the Accord more, but it's nowhere near 18k better. It's maybe 2-3k better. At that point, I agree with the people saying to get a Camry or just go futuristic with it and get a Tesla.</quote> I personally think it's flawed that they're trying to catch people who would otherwise aspire to buy a base model Lexus or 3 series. Those guys want the badge and the luxury. Honda is neither in this segment. Note we don't have Acura here either. Alternatively it might catch people who look for the traditionally upmarket models like the Subaru liberty (legacy) or a high spec Mazda 6 but honestly I don't know if I would take a chance on Honda at the moment since they aren't leaders in the field with their current tech (also note we get our Honda's from Thailand which may miss out on some stuff you guys get in the US). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 12/08/19 4:37:36 PM #82:	gloBal enemy posted... hard to say if that experience is representative of the car itself or the fact that it was a rental. Valid point that I considered during the time driving it.However the amount of miles it had on it didnt justify the amount of chassis missallaighnment. --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:931287931] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>gloBal enemy posted... </cite> <quote>hard to say if that experience is representative of the car itself or the fact that it was a rental.</quote>Valid point that I considered during the time driving it.However the amount of miles it had on it didnt justify the amount of chassis missallaighnment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 12/08/19 4:50:50 PM #83:	its a chunck of metal that gets you from point a to b. just go for the cheapest option. no one enjoys driving in traffic. so it doesn't matter what pricing the piece of metal you sit in cost or its features. unless its a driverless car. --- https://i.imgtc.com/PruZV73.png https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn <cite>ModLogic posted [p:931288534] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>its a chunck of metal that gets you from point a to b. just go for the cheapest option. no one enjoys driving in traffic. so it doesn't matter what pricing the piece of metal you sit in cost or its features. unless its a driverless car. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 12/08/19 8:28:40 PM #84:	modena posted... Valid point that I considered during the time driving it.However the amount of miles it had on it didnt justify the amount of chassis missallaighnment. Probably true. I don't have a lot of experience with rental cars only using them maybe less than ten times in the past decade, but TV has led me to believe that rental cars get a good thrashing day in day out from most customers. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:931298337] in if you had... [t:78219071]...</cite> <quote>modena posted... </cite> <quote>Valid point that I considered during the time driving it.However the amount of miles it had on it didnt justify the amount of chassis missallaighnment.</quote> Probably true. I don't have a lot of experience with rental cars only using them maybe less than ten times in the past decade, but TV has led me to believe that rental cars get a good thrashing day in day out from most customers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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