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ledbowman
11/30/19 2:05:54 PM
#1:


Which one you like more


Talking about the movies. Keep it civil fellas

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treewojima
11/30/19 2:22:03 PM
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Return
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Vita_Aeterna
11/30/19 2:25:17 PM
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Both are 10/10s.
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Irony
11/30/19 2:26:04 PM
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I liked one scene in RotK

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lilORANG
11/30/19 2:27:34 PM
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Vita_Aeterna posted...
Both are 10/10s.

Basically
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BewmHedshot
11/30/19 2:50:28 PM
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The awful cgi blending in the paths of the dead and the army of the dead scenes almost ruins Return, but the way they turned Arwen into a kawaii warrior priness in Fellowship is worse.
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HylianFox
11/30/19 2:53:33 PM
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BewmHedshot posted...
but the way they turned Arwen into a kawaii warrior priness in Fellowship is worse.
she had like one scene where she fought off the Ringwraiths

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Unknown5uspect
11/30/19 2:53:36 PM
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King of the Ring
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BewmHedshot
11/30/19 3:01:09 PM
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HylianFox posted...
BewmHedshot posted...
but the way they turned Arwen into a kawaii warrior priness in Fellowship is worse.
she had like one scene where she fought off the Ringwraiths

That's about infinity times more camera time than she got in the book, as you know.
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Irony
11/30/19 3:01:49 PM
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Trees got more screentime in the books

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masterpug53
11/30/19 3:06:02 PM
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BewmHedshot posted...
The awful cgi blending in the paths of the dead and the army of the dead scenes almost ruins Return, but the way they turned Arwen into a kawaii warrior priness in Fellowship is worse.


Unless you're some kind of diehard Glorfinden fan, this is a weird take. She didn't do any actual swordfighting and called the river spirits (?) for help. If you're going to spring for Liv Tyler, you ought to get more out of her character than showing up for one dinner and Aragorn's coronation.
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HylianFox
11/30/19 3:11:39 PM
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BewmHedshot posted...
That's about infinity times more camera time than she got in the book, as you know.


Irony posted...
Trees got more screentime in the books


masterpug53 posted...
Unless you're some kind of diehard Glorfinden fan, this is a weird take. She didn't do any actual swordfighting and called the river spirits (?) for help. If you're going to spring for Liv Tyler, you ought to get more out of her character than showing up for one dinner and Aragorn's coronation.
yeah, shit like this is why Tauriel exists
>_>

would it have killed Tolkien to have included more female characters?

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HylianFox
11/30/19 3:13:20 PM
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I also recall people getting upset at the "I am no man!" scene for feminist pandering or whatever

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masterpug53
11/30/19 3:17:29 PM
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HylianFox posted...
I also recall people getting upset at the "I am no man!" scene for feminist pandering or whatever


Even though the scene came straight from the books, lol (albeit abridged, mostly due to the fact that the her big reveal would have been impossible in film format).
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CommonStar
11/30/19 3:17:54 PM
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Both are 10/10 but RotK edges out because of Theoden's speech and the Rohirrim's charge at the battle of the Pelennor Fields.
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BewmHedshot
11/30/19 3:18:58 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
BewmHedshot posted...
The awful cgi blending in the paths of the dead and the army of the dead scenes almost ruins Return, but the way they turned Arwen into a kawaii warrior priness in Fellowship is worse.


Unless you're some kind of diehard Glorfinden fan, this is a weird take. She didn't do any actual swordfighting and called the river spirits (?) for help. If you're going to spring for Liv Tyler, you ought to get more out of her character than showing up for one dinner and Aragorn's coronation.

Considering who does it in the novels, it's a really weird decision to change the river thing to be the work of a minor character who doesn't do anything else except make doe eyes at Daddy and convince Aragorn he's worthy of his heritage (which is also not an element present in the novels btw.) Like oh look a random elf girl can fend off the Ringwraiths! But somehow they're also a major threat!
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RieTakahash
11/30/19 3:19:03 PM
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Two Towers
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Irony
11/30/19 3:19:52 PM
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RieTakahash posted...
Two Towers
Is unarguably the worst of the trilogy

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RieTakahash
11/30/19 3:20:43 PM
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Irony posted...
RieTakahash posted...
Two Towers
Is unarguably the worst of the trilogy

Opinions for 200 Alex
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Irony
11/30/19 3:21:32 PM
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RieTakahash posted...
Opinion
No

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RieTakahash
11/30/19 3:22:26 PM
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Irony posted...
RieTakahash posted...
Opinion
No

Okay kid
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stoltenberg11
11/30/19 3:23:25 PM
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Fellowship easily. Return was a slog down the stretch, and Aragorn's 'lost king returns to claim his throne' story never really resonated with me for some reason
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CommonStar
11/30/19 3:24:00 PM
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Two Towers was great too wtf
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RieTakahash
11/30/19 3:24:47 PM
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CommonStar posted...
Two Towers was great too wtf

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HylianFox
11/30/19 3:25:14 PM
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Two Towers was like 90% the Helm's Deep stuff (or a least, that's how it felt)

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Irony
11/30/19 3:26:34 PM
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CommonStar posted...
Two Towers was great too wtf
That wasn't what was being discussed. What was being discussed was that it was factually worse than Fellowship and RotK. Believing otherwise is trolling

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mew4ever
11/30/19 3:29:30 PM
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Its really gonna come down to personal preference for most people since theyre both 10/10s

For me, Fellowship edges it out. The Shire and really all of middle earth felt so real. It had a lot of characters to introduce and it made them feel like actual people rather than just like fellowship member #7. The tonal shifts are really something going from happy and merry to an epic adventure, to grief, and to end with optimism and friendship. The movie is an adventure from start to finish and for me it eeks out Return for best of the series
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HylianFox
11/30/19 3:31:02 PM
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also gotta say Sean Bean was fine as hell as Boromir

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BewmHedshot
11/30/19 3:31:26 PM
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stoltenberg11 posted...
Fellowship easily. Return was a slog down the stretch, and Aragorn's 'lost king returns to claim his throne' story never really resonated with me for some reason

That's because that's not the story Tolkien wrote.
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RieTakahash
11/30/19 3:32:18 PM
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There is no factually better with movies/art lmao, it's personal preference.

Silmarillion >
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apocalyptic_4
11/30/19 3:38:34 PM
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I love all the films equally to me these are perfect films which I re order in favorites depending on mood but imo between the 2 fellowship is more a complete film. The 3rd only suffers a bit from its epilogue rapping things up in the last hour dragged a bit but it definitely had the best cinematography and grand sweeping shots of the trilogy.

Fellowship however really set the theme and scale from a small adventure into something grand as the film went on.

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pfh1001
11/30/19 3:41:05 PM
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stoltenberg11 posted...
Fellowship easily. Return was a slog down the stretch, and Aragorn's 'lost king returns to claim his throne' story never really resonated with me for some reason


Agreed. Fellowship>Two Towers>Return
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Tupacrulez
11/30/19 3:45:58 PM
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All 3 are great movies to me.

Only on CE will you see some mongoloids saying "oh but the CGI in 2004 was bad!"

Come the fuck off it.
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HylianFox
11/30/19 3:47:18 PM
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Tupacrulez posted...
Only on CE will you see some mongoloids saying "oh but the CGI in 2004 was bad!"


well, it was

the Balrog didn't even use real hellfire

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ledbowman
11/30/19 3:49:26 PM
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BewmHedshot posted...
The awful cgi blending in the paths of the dead and the army of the dead scenes almost ruins Return


Do people really think like this

Two Towers is obviously 10/10 but it's the chapter i like least

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Tupacrulez
11/30/19 7:06:34 PM
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ledbowman posted...
BewmHedshot posted...
The awful cgi blending in the paths of the dead and the army of the dead scenes almost ruins Return


Do people really think like this

Two Towers is obviously 10/10 but it's the chapter i like least


Some people have shit opinions.
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Azardea
11/30/19 7:07:45 PM
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I realize I'm in the minority, but I find the massive battles to be really boring. The smaller scales battles in Fellowship were far more interesting to me.

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_MorningStar
11/30/19 7:09:07 PM
#38:


CommonStar posted...
Both are 10/10 but RotK edges out because of Theoden's speech and the Rohirrim's charge at the battle of the Pelennor Fields.

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BewmHedshot
11/30/19 7:40:57 PM
#39:


Azardea posted...
I realize I'm in the minority, but I find the massive battles to be really boring. The smaller scales battles in Fellowship were far more interesting to me.

They're definitely better at feeling like important people might actually get hurt.
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rexcrk
11/30/19 7:43:58 PM
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Fellowship of the Ring is definitely the best.

Return of the King gets more and more problematic the more I think about it.
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BlueBoy675
11/30/19 7:46:25 PM
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Fellowship is honestly a perfect film

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Southernfatman
11/30/19 7:47:45 PM
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Fellowship has that feeling of going on an adventure that the others don't because the other two are a bit more "serious" for lack of a better term. Fellowship is relatively light-hearted. Plus, as a Tolkien fanboy, it has less stuff for me to get mad about. How they added in Arwen was dumb and ultimately takes away a bit form Eowyn's character and arc, but it's not that bad. Originally she was going to be fighting at Helm's Deep. Thankfully that didn't happen. Ultimately, there's worse things to get annoyed by or mad about than Arwen.
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Cobra1010
11/30/19 7:48:01 PM
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Now is the hour! Riders of Rohan! Oaths you have taken, now fulfill them all, to lord and land!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HXW3gRpnFk
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Deadpool_18
11/30/19 7:50:19 PM
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Pssshhhh

None of your opinions count here. It is ME you should harken to!
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BewmHedshot
11/30/19 7:52:36 PM
#45:


Tupacrulez posted...
ledbowman posted...
BewmHedshot posted...
The awful cgi blending in the paths of the dead and the army of the dead scenes almost ruins Return


Do people really think like this

Two Towers is obviously 10/10 but it's the chapter i like least


Some people have shit opinions.

It's possible I'm talking about some of the scenes that were added in the extended cut; I admittedly haven't seen the theatrical cut in at least a decade.
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Azardea
11/30/19 7:54:12 PM
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BewmHedshot posted...
They're definitely better at feeling like important people might actually get hurt.
Yeah. Like, I couldn't care less if a random soldier dies, or what they do. I prefer seeing all these characters we've learned to know and love.

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JimmyFraska
11/30/19 7:54:59 PM
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Fellowship is the all time great high fantasy film.
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DevsBro
11/30/19 7:57:50 PM
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I'm sure Return is a fine film but I've seen it thrice and I still can't keep up with the plot.

*shrugs*
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Tupacrulez
12/01/19 3:02:08 AM
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BewmHedshot posted...
Tupacrulez posted...
ledbowman posted...
BewmHedshot posted...
The awful cgi blending in the paths of the dead and the army of the dead scenes almost ruins Return


Do people really think like this

Two Towers is obviously 10/10 but it's the chapter i like least


Some people have shit opinions.

It's possible I'm talking about some of the scenes that were added in the extended cut; I admittedly haven't seen the theatrical cut in at least a decade.


I've only ever watched the extended versions.
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pfh1001
12/02/19 3:30:10 AM
#50:


Azardea posted...
I realize I'm in the minority, but I find the massive battles to be really boring. The smaller scales battles in Fellowship were far more interesting to me.


No, I strongly agree with that.
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