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Gud game but maybe too stingy with resources, to the point that most runs are less resource-management and more blind luck
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It does get a bit harsh sometimes.

never beat it, think the furthest Ive made it is to the 5th level and died pretty damn soon after that
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Agreed. It feels awful having to go through higher floors with mostly your default gun because you've gotten either niche crap or weapons that aren't suited to killing bosses.

My favorite run is when I got multiple bullet upgrades like ghost rounds and the bouncy one's(I think it was those), so even meh guns felt pretty good. I wish doing well on a boss would reward you with more weapons like how it gives you that free health upgrade.
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Yup, I hate when you get a piss poor gun that just makes the run take forever
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The boss rewards are butt as fuck tbh

Mostly though its awful how you can go through an entire floor w/o seeing a drop on room clear. Keys are way too goddamn rare. Ammo drops may as well be shop exclusive. I dont want the game to be easy, I just wish less of my deaths came from not having anything good to use.

Also the secret rooms having no real discernible semi-pattern or w/e; Binding of Isaac, theyre more likely (but not guaranteed) to be behind a wall that falls between 2 or more rooms. Here, its just use a ton of ammo from your only decent gun to find a room that will give you 1/2 heart and the blank back that you used to access it
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I got super, super into Binding of Isaac, but Enter the Gungeon didn't grab me the same way. Probably because it's more difficult and I just don't have the time to git gud like I used to.
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Isaac generally feels like you failing is your fault, whereas Gungeon feels like it starves you of decent weapons and so you lose
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Do rainbow runs, game is easy as fuck once you do that

ToPoPO posted...

Do rainbow runs, game is easy as fuck once you do that

What is this
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butthole666 posted...

What is this

every floor you start with a rainbow chest, but every other chest has junk in it

anyway, I unlocked everything in the game except some of the guns.

It's much more fun doing rainbow runs because you breeze past the first few floors if you start off with a good gun

They even rebalanced the game to give more resources.

I think it's great, but i can see how people wouldn't be insane for it
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I liked it in earlier updates, but the later updates moved further into the runaway power creep direction to the point where there isn't a real threat of dying anymore once you have a basic idea of what you're doing.
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Gungeon is probably the best roguelite of it's style out there.

Every update was free and made the game better, whereas in Isaac, the previous champion imo, you're basically paying to dilute the item pool further and further.
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Then you learn about the true ending requirements and start to cry.
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Its fun and I like it, its just a very flawed game.

Also, the iron maiden enemies on the second floor can get fucked that shit is not even fun
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I don't really agree. I think the game is usually pretty fair in what it hands out. Only rarely do you truly wind up with a useless array of weapons and items.

My problem with the game is that I'm bad at it and I will never beat it. And many items can't be unlocked till you beat the Dragun for the first time.
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butthole666 posted...

Isaac generally feels like you failing is your fault, whereas Gungeon feels like it starves you of decent weapons and so you lose

Isaac can screw you on item drops too, like giving you nothing but health ups on bosses and the item rooms are all active items, are redundant (like giving a spectral tears item when you already have it), or do nothing for your damage/survivability. Also curse of the blind reeeeaaally likes to give me soy milk[1], tiny planet[2], the wiz[3], or other items that can break a run.

[1] Fire rate gets a major boost but damage gets -80%. Unfortunately the way the fire rate cap works means unless your tears stat is currently at or lower than the base it's a major dps down every time.

[2] Tears now orbit wide around you forcing you to be a specific distance from the enemy to deal constant damage.

[3] You now fire two tears at once... diagonally from the direction you shoot. Have fun aiming like that.
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Easily my favorite game of the generation. Incredibly addictive and each run feels unique. The game also has great style. Keys can be purchased, so there's no reason not to be able to get a bunch each run. As far as resources go, "bad" runs are possible, but quite rare in my experience. I had trouble with Iron Maidens at first too. Then I realized you don't have to shoot the front of them to do damage. I don't know why I assumed you did. If you're having trouble dodging their projectiles, don't stay in the middle; run to one of the sides of the room after they're fired and dodge roll over a single row of bullets as they come toward you. The rest will be so spread by the time they get to you they'll be no problem.

If you think the game's unfair then check out this guy's ETG runs. He destroys the game every time he plays regardless of drops. You can also learn a lot from watching him.

https://www.youtube.com/user/AbeClancy/videos

The biggest problem is that the first floor bosses just have too much health, because it's very likely you'll have to fight it with your starting gun, so it's just a shitty, unfun start to your run that takes too long, ESPECIALLY if it's Bullet King

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If you're having trouble with the first floor bosses, the Hunter's starting Crossbow takes them out quite quickly.

I've 100%'d the game, I'm just saying they're a really unfun HP block, whether you're trying to make progress or just play for fun, and it's twice as bad if you're saving keys for the Oubliette

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I also 100%'d the game, and I never saw them that way. Just a practically guaranteed Master Round. Though I usually used the Hunter, and usually skipped the Oubliette.

What the fuck I beat the game. That wasn't supposed to happen.
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

What the fuck I beat the game. That wasn't supposed to happen.

Congratulations. That initial hump is not easy to get over. Soon you'll have rainbow runs available to you which really open the game up. If you ever have a chance to pick up Gunter early in a run, get it. Infinite ammo. Gains power the more you use it. It's final stage is godly, and if you pair it with bullet/damage modifiers it's straight beast mode.

viewmaster_pi posted...

The biggest problem is that the first floor bosses just have too much health, because it's very likely you'll have to fight it with your starting gun, so it's just a shitty, unfun start to your run that takes too long, ESPECIALLY if it's Bullet King

I do agree the bosses have a bit more HP than I think is necessary, it kinda gets old especially since there's only a handful of bosses.
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That's exactly it. Roguelikes are all about repetition- by the later floors it's whatever because you'll have some stuff to work with, but the first couple floors' bosses are just a drag.

Getting to the rat's lair is honestly psychological torture, too; I'm glad I never have to do it again.

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I can't get into Rougelikes like that. I like Roguelites better because they don't require the timesink needed to git gud.