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CyricZ 11/22/19 1:30:44 PM #52: |
Mega_Greninja posted...
Oh so you're just shitposting.I could go into greater detail what "confirmation bias" means if you like. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fan357 11/22/19 1:31:22 PM #53: |
CyricZ posted...
Fine then. Why are trans women setting records, wise one? Because theyre biologically stronger than women that were born as women. --- Never forget where you came from. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TroutPaste 11/22/19 1:32:03 PM #54: |
Their strategy is to play into whatever the world is insecure/angry about, then shift it within their own narrative. Are they perfect? No. But they're intentionally imperfect, it's part of the larger structure. They're trying to be pieces of shit, while making social commentary
There's going to be a bigger version of this in our lifetimes. Just wait until the US Women's soccer has the debate, or the WNBA, gymnastics... something that more people pay attention to for women's sports. That'll be a huge debate. I'm all about LGBT rights but it's fucking South Park lmao --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/22/19 1:32:44 PM #55: |
fan357 posted...
Because theyre biologically stronger than women that were born as women.Then why don't they win every time? Rachel McKinnon herself lost several times in the race she participated in before she won once. TroutPaste posted... but it's fucking South Park lmaoThis is one of the defenses I see a lot. "South Park is South Park". Does that put them above criticism? Are they truly unassailable? --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mega_Greninja 11/22/19 1:34:07 PM #56: |
CyricZ posted...
Mega_Greninja posted...Oh so you're just shitposting.I could go into greater detail what "confirmation bias" means if you like. I just don't quite understand what the point you're trying to make is. "This particular thing reinforces preconceived notions, therefore it is irrelevant" is not a valid argument if that's what you're trying to say. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TroutPaste 11/22/19 1:34:57 PM #57: |
South Park isn't above criticism, it's below it. They've been doing it on purpose the entire time
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fan357 11/22/19 1:35:06 PM #58: |
CyricZ posted...
Then why don't they win every time? Rachel McKinnon herself lost several times in the race she participated in before she won once. --- Never forget where you came from. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/22/19 1:35:37 PM #59: |
Mega_Greninja posted...
"This particular thing reinforces preconceived notions, therefore it is irrelevant" is not a valid argument if that's what you're trying to say."See I'm right. South Park agrees with me." is not a direction I consider worthwhile. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/22/19 1:36:23 PM #60: |
TroutPaste posted...
South Park isn't above criticism, it's below it. They've been doing it on purpose the entire timeAt the end of the day, what's the difference? Are they unassailable? --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mega_Greninja 11/22/19 1:36:42 PM #61: |
CyricZ posted...
Mega_Greninja posted..."This particular thing reinforces preconceived notions, therefore it is irrelevant" is not a valid argument if that's what you're trying to say."See I'm right. South Park agrees with me." is not a direction I consider worthwhile. Show me where I posted that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TroutPaste 11/22/19 1:38:05 PM #63: |
CyricZ posted...
TroutPaste posted...South Park isn't above criticism, it's below it. They've been doing it on purpose the entire timeAt the end of the day, what's the difference? Are they unassailable? No. I'd say they are routinely criticized and it's everyone's right to criticize whatever they want, especially if it offends them. But what's the point? Get them taken off the air, then what? A bunch of assholes on the internet act like they're being original with the same content? At least South Park has elements of nuance and satire for the same thing. That's going to be said with or without the TV show . --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/22/19 1:38:11 PM #64: |
Mega_Greninja posted...
Show me where I posted that.That would be your first post. EDIT: Y'know now that I think on it, I realize that I could be mistaken and you just entered in this topic looking to generically shit on a transgender athlete. If that was your intent, my apologies. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/22/19 1:40:15 PM #65: |
TroutPaste posted...
No. I'd say they are routinely criticized and it's everyone's right to criticize whatever they want, especially if it offends them. But what's the point? Get them taken off the air, then what? A bunch of assholes on the internet act like they're being original with the same content? At least South Park has elements of nuance and satire for the same thing.Okay I get what you meant by that now. I just think it's too easy of a refuge, and "It's South Park" is too lazy a way to end such an argument (there's that word again). --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HerpToTheDerp 11/22/19 1:40:17 PM #66: |
I too am a crybaby that stopped liking South Park once they made fun of stuff I liked. It was only funny when they joked about and offended other people.
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PleaseClap 11/22/19 1:46:55 PM #68: |
Shes right about it always being the exact same jokes, over and over
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mario2000 11/22/19 1:49:48 PM #69: |
Q: What's the easiest way to get rightists to care about womens' sports?
A: Inform them that a transperson is involved. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/22/19 1:50:40 PM #70: |
GregShmedley posted...
CyricZ just can't help but be a white knightI can think of worse groups to white knight than a demographic that has dozens of members murdered a year simply for being who they are. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fan357 11/22/19 1:54:22 PM #72: |
CyricZ posted...
I can think of worse groups to white knight than a demographic that has dozens of members murdered a year simply for being who they are. That doesnt mean they can do literally anything they want. The idea is to treat them equally. Not put them on a pedestal. Which is what you do all the time. --- Never forget where you came from. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bass_X0 11/22/19 1:57:59 PM #74: |
Paper_Okami posted...
i haven't really watched south park since i was a teen How do you know if you dont watch it? --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/22/19 2:01:36 PM #75: |
fan357 posted...
That doesnt mean they can do literally anything they want.They are not doing literally anything they want. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Like the relevancy of you claiming I want to sleep with transgender people? --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fan357 11/22/19 2:03:42 PM #77: |
CyricZ posted...
They are not doing literally anything they want. --- Never forget where you came from. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 11/22/19 2:05:13 PM #78: |
She talks about South Park and Matt & Trey being irrelevant but they have brought and still are bringing more happiness to people around the world than she ever will.
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Wewillrocku 11/22/19 2:09:07 PM #79: |
i don't think you should modify other people's quotes
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CyricZ 11/22/19 2:10:00 PM #80: |
Wewillrocku posted...
i don't think you should modify other people's quotesHe's not modifying. He's just failing at working it. The second line is his response. EDIT: Does make it difficult to respond to him. Not like I can press the "quote" button because it says "that's just an entire quote". fan357 posted... They are claiming to be women but have the strength of men.Transwomen are women. What's your opinion on the efforts of separation in athletics based on race because of certain races' "natural advantage"? I'm not against regulation within athletics with regards to under what capacity transwomen are allowed to compete. Rachel McKinnon is under such regulations in her athletics and she follows them. What I want is learned people on the subject to be the ones to make those decisions on what those regulations are, not CEmen. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 11/22/19 2:13:59 PM #81: |
Futurama made the same stupid storyline in 2003. This is the most important part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4pTejRBxSc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Monolith1676 11/22/19 2:16:03 PM #82: |
I'll play devil's advocate. What if the "patriarchy" is sending these transwomen into sports to take the sports over and push out biological women?
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_Matchabuu_ 11/22/19 2:19:52 PM #83: |
CyricZ posted...
Wewillrocku posted...i don't think you should modify other people's quotesHe's not modifying. He's just failing at working it. The second line is his response. --- uwu SW-0239-3946-8686 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HylianFox 11/22/19 2:25:31 PM #84: |
the "twist" is that he only started identifying as transgender two weeks prior to the competition and only entered it to humiliate his ex-girlfriend
so.... he's not really transgender and it is sort of an extreme version of what conservatives think will happen should they be wholly accepted by society (see also: "men only pretend to be women so they can get into their restrooms!") --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/22/19 2:36:13 PM #85: |
HylianFox posted...
the "twist" is that he only started identifying as transgender two weeks prior to the competition and only entered it to humiliate his ex-girlfriendYou are correct in this, and it was clearly trying to poke fun at that fear. I still think transgender people were the butt of that joke, though. It's not uncommon for South Park to take something and say "here's the crazy issue, but wait! Twist! Turns out the issue was even crazier than that!" and you're like "wait what about the other real life issue that you brought up" and they're like "Doesn't matter now does it!" Come to think of it, have they ever had like a normal trans person on that show? Remember for how long every gay person was a flamboyant stereotype until Tweek and Craig came out and that was only because there was a fan ship of them? --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fan357 11/22/19 2:37:49 PM #86: |
If trans women are women then why do they have the same physical advantages as men? Why are they setting records?
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CyricZ 11/22/19 2:40:49 PM #87: |
fan357 posted...
If trans women are women then why do they have the same physical advantages as men? Why are they setting records?Cis-women are also setting records. Would it be okay for transwomen to compete if they just never won? --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HylianFox 11/22/19 2:42:18 PM #88: |
CyricZ posted...
Remember for how long every gay person was a flamboyant stereotype this is why I don't really go by "Al" :/ --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fan357 11/22/19 2:44:06 PM #89: |
Taken from a Wired article.
Transgender womens performances generally decline as their testosterone does. But not every male advantage dissipates when testosterone drops. Some advantages, such as their bigger bone structure, greater lung capacity, and larger heart size remain, says Alison Heather, a physiologist at the University of Otago in New Zealand. Testosterone also promotes muscle memoryan ability to regain muscle mass after a period of detrainingby increasing the number of nuclei in muscles, and these added nuclei dont go away. So transgender women have a heightened ability to build strength even after they transition, Heather says. Its a scientific fact that they have unfair advantages because of their original gender. Its unsportsmanlike. The fact that this is even an issue is absolute insanity. Trans women dont belong in womens sports. --- Never forget where you came from. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lil_Bit83 11/22/19 2:45:06 PM #90: |
Paper_Okami posted...
i haven't really watched south park since i was a teen Same here. I've never liked it much. Its got its moments though. South Park's goal is to roast everyone for everything. So I guess they're still doing their job well. --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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evil_zombie11 11/22/19 2:48:32 PM #91: |
The irony of hating on the creators of South Park for never growing up while on a video game message board is great.
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CyricZ 11/22/19 2:57:48 PM #92: |
fan357 posted...
Taken from a Wired article.Cool. When are you gonna answer the question I asked about what you think we should do about racial "natural advantages"? evil_zombie11 posted... The irony of hating on the creators of South Park for never growing up while on a video game message board is great.Ooo, a new argument. "If you're so mature, why are you playing video games?" That'll play well. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fan357 11/22/19 3:05:22 PM #94: |
CyricZ posted...
Cool. When are you gonna answer the question I asked about what you think we should do about racial "natural advantages"? Not sure what you want me to say about racial advantages. Are you trying to get me to say I support segregation? Because thats nothing like this. This is about men competing against men. --- Never forget where you came from. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wewillrocku 11/22/19 3:07:13 PM #95: |
fan357 posted...
Not sure what you want me to say about racial advantages. Are you trying to get me to say I support segregation? Because thats nothing like this. This is about men competing against men. oh, because there are only two genders. somehow there are three gods though. --- The american prison system is a sorry mess but giving them game consoles isn't going to solve anything. Zurriah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThanksUglyGod 11/22/19 3:14:34 PM #96: |
Where are all these trans superstars that I keep hearing about? Wikipedia shows like 2 dozen trans women notable athletes. Pretty sure there are way more cis women famous athletes.
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Lordgold666 11/22/19 3:18:59 PM #97: |
Deadpool_18 posted...
Imagine thinking you deserve special treatment from a satirical show that makes fun of every single group of humans available. --- 3DS: 1848-2391-0198 "May the Father of Understanding guide us" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fan357 11/22/19 3:22:58 PM #98: |
Wewillrocku posted...
oh, because there are only two genders. somehow there are three gods though.Wat --- Never forget where you came from. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 11/22/19 3:25:12 PM #99: |
CyricZ posted...
Cool. When are you gonna answer the question I asked about what you think we should do about racial "natural advantages"? That's always a nonsensical take. Transwomen are transwomen. They are not "women born with a natural advantage over other women." They are male-bodied individuals who make a purposeful transition to their desired body state out of mental health concerns. I'm not of the "they're men" camp, but they also do not just fit completely into all the roles of biological women. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 11/22/19 3:30:55 PM #100: |
metallica846 posted...
Is that supposed to be Randy Savage? --- Guns; freedom you can hold in your hand. Sampson, Terrordactyl PSN: DarkHoosier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AirFresh 11/22/19 3:33:19 PM #101: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Is that supposed to be Randy Savage?Yes and Trey does a great impression the entire episode lol --- AirFresh - Voted the hottest content creator on The FAQs' #KeepItFresh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Allanon23 11/22/19 3:44:42 PM #102: |
I find it hard to believe that two men who dressed as women on the red carpet are transphobes. The episode was mocking both sides.
CyricZ posted... Remember for how long every gay person was a flamboyant stereotype until Tweek and Craig came out and that was only because there was a fan ship of them? This is false. Butters dad was not flamboyant at all when they did an episode about his gay tendencies. There were other episodes where non flamboyant characters engaged in gay sex/were in certain situations. --- Attention campers, lunch has been cancelled today due to lack of hustle. Deal with it. Current LP: Dragon Quest XI ... Copied to Clipboard!
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