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ChainedRedone 11/13/19 3:15:07 PM #1: |
Are fans still going to be pissed over a foggy area in the overworld?
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AlephZero 11/13/19 3:18:30 PM #3: |
gotta catch less than half of 'em
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ChainedRedone 11/13/19 3:19:52 PM #4: |
Conflict posted...
Are reviews actually saying that or are you just clinging on to IGN's 9.3 like it's gospel. It's heading into the 70s on Metacritic Well Gamespot gave it a 9 --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainedRedone 11/13/19 3:23:09 PM #7: |
Conflict posted...
Oh well shit, two of the most unreliable review outlets gave it a great score. My mind has been changed TheVerge, one of the most respectable gaming sites said it was one of the best Pokemon games ever --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordFarquad1312 11/13/19 3:23:09 PM #8: |
Considering proffesional reviewers look for a game to be over as quickly and easily as possible, yeah Imma wait for some people whose opinion I actually care about.
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Medzzz 11/13/19 3:24:26 PM #9: |
ChainedRedone posted...
Conflict posted...Are reviews actually saying that or are you just clinging on to IGN's 9.3 like it's gospel. It's heading into the 70s on Metacritic Gamespot reviews on how much money the company gives them --- Feelin' fine ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 11/13/19 3:42:24 PM #11: |
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-11-13-pokemon-sword-and-shield-review-a-shadow-of-a-former-great
a shadow of a former great Pokmon Sword and Shield add some brilliant new creatures, but like their gargantuan Dynamax forms, the games feel like a hollow projection. This is a new generation of Pokmon games that promises much, with brilliant new Pokmon, a raft of intricate system-tinkering for long-term fans and a series-first stab at an "open-world" area. But all that's new seems to have come at a cost - and the cost is almost everything else in the game. In essence, despite the clamour and the rage, the lack of a National Pokdex is not the problem. The real problem with Pokmon Sword and Shield lies much deeper, or rather where that depth ought to be. There is far more than a whiff of troubled development to these games, brought about by an astonishing lack of complexity, texture, and flavour in almost every place where you'd usually find it in every Pokmon game that's come before. In fact, Pokmon Sword and Shield is entirely dungeonless. There is no route or cave or building or wood more complex than Red, Blue and Yellow's Viridian Forest, the tutorial pseudo-dungeon at the start of generation one. Nothing in the game comes close to even Mt. Moon or Rock Tunnel, let alone the twelve floors of warp-pad mayhem in Silph Co. - all first-generation locations that were fully realised in Pokmon Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee, both ostensibly remade versions of the classic games, but for children. At a certain point, Pokmon Sword and Shield's lack of substance is almost a parody. Time and time again some rumble or crash or moment of panic will happen out of shot, and you'll think - finally! - it's your call to action. But no. Every inciting incident, every kick-off point for act two, any shred of anything happening at all is batted away with a simple "I'll handle this, you carry on" from the Galar's resident in-game hero and Champion Leon, to the point where you wonder how much more fun you'd have in his playthrough instead of yours. It goes on. Traditional gyms return - a puzzle first, followed by a battle - but the promise of a minor league amounts to a single mention of it in passing dialogue. There are fewer trainers on routes than there have been before. There are fewer routes than there have been before. A climactic conversation is played out, in silence, over static artwork. Another climactic battle sequence, for some reason, had no music. Even the NPCs dotted around the world seem to have less to say. There's so little "legend has it...", nothing by way of real explanation or construction of the world, at least until the final phases of the story. There are so few books to read, or nooks and crannies to explore. By Pokmon's own standards it's dire, and the comparison need not stick to early generations: even Sun and Moon had hidden holes in the wall leading to secluded beaches and undiscovered caves. --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Duncanwii 11/13/19 3:46:52 PM #13: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-11-13-pokemon-sword-and-shield-review-a-shadow-of-a-former-greatWho wrote this? One of the Dexiters? --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 11/13/19 3:47:14 PM #14: |
Hairistotle posted...
im no pokemon guy but doesnt this one have a lot of cut content that would aggravate veteran fans but not necessarily reviewers or newcomers?Yes, Sword/Shield is extremely barebones in content, and not just the missing Pokemon. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 11/13/19 3:48:18 PM #15: |
Duncanwii posted...
Who wrote this? One of the Dexiters? How dare someone write an accurate review of a game! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 11/13/19 3:48:20 PM #16: |
Duncanwii posted...
Who wrote this? One of the Dexiters?They go into far more of the game's glaring issues than just Dexit. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulGrave 11/13/19 3:53:10 PM #17: |
In fact, Pokmon Sword and Shield is entirely dungeonless. There is no route or cave or building or wood more complex than Red, Blue and Yellow's Viridian Forest, the tutorial pseudo-dungeon at the start of generation one. Nothing in the game comes close to even Mt. Moon or Rock Tunnel, let alone the twelve floors of warp-pad mayhem in Silph Co. - all first-generation locations that were fully realised in Pokmon Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee, both ostensibly remade versions of the classic games, but for children.
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Duncanwii 11/13/19 3:54:21 PM #18: |
ViewtifulGrave posted...
In fact, Pokmon Sword and Shield is entirely dungeonless. There is no route or cave or building or wood more complex than Red, Blue and Yellow's Viridian Forest, the tutorial pseudo-dungeon at the start of generation one. Nothing in the game comes close to even Mt. Moon or Rock Tunnel, let alone the twelve floors of warp-pad mayhem in Silph Co. - all first-generation locations that were fully realised in Pokmon Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee, both ostensibly remade versions of the classic games, but for children.How I'd this an issue? Really grasping at straws to find negativity. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 11/13/19 3:54:52 PM #19: |
ViewtifulGrave posted...
In fact, Pokmon Sword and Shield is entirely dungeonless. There is no route or cave or building or wood more complex than Red, Blue and Yellow's Viridian Forest, the tutorial pseudo-dungeon at the start of generation one. Nothing in the game comes close to even Mt. Moon or Rock Tunnel, let alone the twelve floors of warp-pad mayhem in Silph Co. - all first-generation locations that were fully realised in Pokmon Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee, both ostensibly remade versions of the classic games, but for children. Gamefreak decided they didn't want players to do their own thing which is also why they made the NPCs interupt you constantly to keep you on the "right" track. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 11/13/19 3:55:22 PM #20: |
ViewtifulGrave posted...
In fact, Pokmon Sword and Shield is entirely dungeonless. There is no route or cave or building or wood more complex than Red, Blue and Yellow's Viridian Forest, the tutorial pseudo-dungeon at the start of generation one. Nothing in the game comes close to even Mt. Moon or Rock Tunnel, let alone the twelve floors of warp-pad mayhem in Silph Co. - all first-generation locations that were fully realised in Pokmon Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee, both ostensibly remade versions of the classic games, but for children.Yeah, Pokemon's increasing unwillingness to challenge its players out of fear of losing children to mobile games has been annoying for years. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 11/13/19 3:55:25 PM #21: |
The only credible reviews are the ones that reflect my views.
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Dingydang166 11/13/19 3:57:18 PM #22: |
Duncanwii posted...
How I'd this an issue? Really grasping at straws to find negativity. I can tell that you are a Fortnite player. How is your Fortnite going? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 11/13/19 3:57:27 PM #23: |
Duncanwii posted...
How I'd this an issue? Really grasping at straws to find negativity.Are you fucking kidding --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Banjo2553 11/13/19 3:59:57 PM #24: |
Duncanwii posted...
How I'd this an issue? Really grasping at straws to find negativity. "How is a major part of the series' design being much less thought out an issue?" --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Makeveli_lives 11/13/19 4:12:31 PM #26: |
Banjo2553 posted...
Duncanwii posted...How I'd this an issue? Really grasping at straws to find negativity. Dungeons and warp area are more annoying then anything though. Outside of getting 1 time use items like the master ball, I just want to get where I'm going without going through a mountain of trainers and encounters just because. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/13/19 4:15:41 PM #27: |
Basically if you're happy to just collect the new Pokemon, explore the new areas and be done with it within 25-50 hours it's fun enough.
If you're a heavily invested fan who wants to carry over all of their old Pokemon and cares about the meta it sucks. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 11/13/19 4:24:14 PM #28: |
Darmik posted...
Basically if you're happy to just collect the new Pokemon, explore the new areas and be done with it within 25-50 hours it's fun enough.No the issue is primarily that there arent areas to explore, and everything has been dumbed down to the point of walking from point a to point b in a straight line dungeons have always been an integral part of the pokemon experience --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/13/19 4:35:33 PM #29: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
the issue is primarily that there arent areas to explore, The negative review you mentioned specifically talks about the wild area. TheGoldenEel posted... and everything has been dumbed down to the point of walking from point a to point b in a straight line That's what most of Pokemon is for most people. What were the interesting dungeons in Sun/Moon? Or X/Y? --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 11/13/19 5:46:33 PM #30: |
Darmik posted...
What were the interesting dungeons in Sun/Moon? Or X/Y?That's where they started dumbing things down. Right before that, you had Chargestone Cave, Santalune Forest, Dragonspiral Tower, Twist Mountain, and an actual Victory Road. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sauceje 11/13/19 5:49:30 PM #31: |
Medzzz posted...
Gamespot reviews on how much money the company gives themWell that's odd. They gave Little Town Hero a 5. Same company. --- He was born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage, He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him Buckethead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Duncanwii 11/13/19 5:50:43 PM #32: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
Santalune Forest,Santelune is in X/Y fyi. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjs28 11/13/19 5:50:56 PM #33: |
Conflict posted...
They fired Jeff Gerstmann for not giving Kane and Lynch a high enough score lolto be fair, all those guys that were responsible for that arent there anymore >_> --- Everything is cool. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 11/13/19 5:51:32 PM #34: |
sauceje posted...
Well that's odd. They gave Little Town Hero a 5. Same company.Depends on whether it was The Pokemon Company or Game Freak that (allegedly) paid them off. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/13/19 5:53:56 PM #35: |
How did the guy who made Disco Elysium afford to get 10/10
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legendarylemur 11/13/19 5:56:51 PM #36: |
ChainedRedone posted...
TheVerge, one of the most respectable gaming sites said it was one of the best Pokemon games everOne of the what now? --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://i.imgtc.com/7dRrfE1.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 11/13/19 6:04:52 PM #37: |
Duncanwii posted...
Santelune is in X/Y fyi.Fixed --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delirious_Beard 11/13/19 6:29:49 PM #38: |
the lack of dungeons is one of the worst things about the recent games
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Solar_Crimson 11/13/19 6:36:22 PM #39: |
Delirious_Beard posted...
the lack of dungeons is one of the worst things about the recent gamesGame Freak just doesn't want to challenge kids anymore. Not that the older games were hard, but there was some semblance of complexity and problem-solving to be found in those. Now, it's basically simple hallways. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delirious_Beard 11/13/19 6:37:33 PM #40: |
i feel like they have no idea how to design dungeons in a 3D space so they just said fuck it and didn't bother
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SwayM 11/13/19 6:49:23 PM #41: |
Delirious_Beard posted...
i feel like they have no idea how to design dungeons in a 3D space so they just said fuck it and didn't bother Sounds like their whole development process is they have no idea what theyre doing so they either dont bother or do the most half assed job they can. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainedRedone 11/13/19 7:01:06 PM #43: |
legendarylemur posted...
ChainedRedone posted...TheVerge, one of the most respectable gaming sites said it was one of the best Pokemon games everOne of the what now? Yeah I was pretty confused by that too. They're a tech site. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 11/13/19 11:26:56 PM #44: |
Duncanwii posted...
TheGoldenEel posted...https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-11-13-pokemon-sword-and-shield-review-a-shadow-of-a-former-greatWho wrote this? One of the Dexiters? Why are you like this? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 11/13/19 11:27:46 PM #45: |
Veggeta X posted...
The only credible reviews are the ones that reflect my views. You too. Why are you like this? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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