Current Events > Bernis would decriminalize illegal border crossing, stunt border control

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Loud_Pipes
11/07/19 1:36:24 PM
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https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/07/bernie-sanders-2020-immigration-plan-067204

very disappointed by this. it's not far off from just making the borders open. if the borders are not secure and if the citizen selection process isn't very selective, we don't have a country. giving citizenship to anyone who can just cross over and hide in sanctuaries for a few years is a disaster.
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Jagr_68
11/07/19 1:37:11 PM
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konokonohamaru
11/07/19 1:37:46 PM
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I don't get this position for someone like Bernie. How does letting anyone who wants to come in, come in, help the working class? It hurts them the most!
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Bloodychess
11/07/19 1:38:23 PM
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konokonohamaru posted...
I don't get this position for someone like Bernie. How does letting anyone who wants to come in, come in, help the working class? It hurts them the most!


Who cares when you can import votes.

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EndOfDiscOne
11/07/19 1:39:03 PM
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I thought he was against open borders
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Guide
11/07/19 1:40:13 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
konokonohamaru posted...
I don't get this position for someone like Bernie. How does letting anyone who wants to come in, come in, help the working class? It hurts them the most!


Who cares when you can import votes.


Do you mean to imply that immigrants are voting , or that people who support immigrants coming in are voting?
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Damn_Underscore
11/07/19 1:46:01 PM
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Does decriminalizing illegal border crossings mean turning them into just civil offenses, retaining deportations, and keeping border defense strong or does it mean essentially open borders?
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Loud_Pipes
11/07/19 1:48:50 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Does decriminalizing illegal border crossings mean turning them into just civil offenses, retaining deportations, and keeping border defense strong or does it mean essentially open borders?


the way he is proposing it, seems like they would really just be open borders without saying they are open borders.
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Gobstoppers12
11/07/19 1:50:16 PM
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Bernis must be stopped.
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Guide
11/07/19 1:51:54 PM
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Feel the Bernis poking you.
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Loud_Pipes
11/07/19 2:17:51 PM
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this needs to be prevented, at any cost. it really would mean bringing in a ton of future voters who are just going to steer the country into the ground.
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Blue_Inigo
11/07/19 2:19:12 PM
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Loud_Pipes posted...
this needs to be prevented, at any cost. it really would mean bringing in a ton of future voters who are just going to steer the country into the ground.

Not even trying to veil the racism here
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Loud_Pipes
11/07/19 2:20:58 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Not even trying to veil the racism here


what are you on about? it has nothing to do with race. it has to do with poverty. you cant bring in everyone and promise them a welfare state. it just wont work.

nice job defending bernie's delusions with the racism card though.
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AlephZero
11/07/19 2:21:01 PM
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we don't want open borders, we just want immigration law to not be enforced and to keep the borders unsecured
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King_Hutton
11/07/19 2:21:06 PM
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Decriminalizing border crossings =/= open borders

This is just trolling
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Loud_Pipes
11/07/19 2:21:31 PM
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AlephZero posted...
we don't want open borders, we just want immigration law to not be enforced and to keep the borders unsecured


that is exactly what the major democrat candidates, except for biden, are saying.
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Bloodychess
11/07/19 2:21:59 PM
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King_Hutton posted...
Decriminalizing border crossings =/= open borders

This is just trolling


Trolling is pretending that decriminalizing crossing is the only thing that the article says

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Blue_Inigo
11/07/19 2:22:28 PM
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Loud_Pipes posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
Not even trying to veil the racism here


what are you on about? it has nothing to do with race. it has to do with poverty. you cant bring in everyone and promise them a welfare state. it just wont work.

nice job defending bernie's delusions with the racism card though.

Im not interested in your racist bullshit. Your shtick is stupid obvious
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Loud_Pipes
11/07/19 2:22:37 PM
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King_Hutton posted...
Decriminalizing border crossings =/= open borders

This is just trolling


if youll actually read what i linked youll see that bernie wants to stunt border security and eliminate border law enforcement.

and he wants to give illegal immigrants federal resources and a guaranteed path to citizenship while they are receiving that federal aid.

it is open borders without saying it.
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Loud_Pipes
11/07/19 2:23:27 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Im not interested in your racist bullshit. Your shtick is stupid obvious


seek help. you are clearly deeply unseated if your knee jerk reaction to Bernie criticism is to insist that any criticism is racist.
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Bloodychess
11/07/19 2:24:34 PM
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Loud_Pipes posted...

Just ignore blue. He's only here to troll because you don't conform to his political visions.

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King_Hutton
11/07/19 2:25:49 PM
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Loud_Pipes posted...
King_Hutton posted...
Decriminalizing border crossings =/= open borders

This is just trolling


if youll actually read what i linked youll see that bernie wants to stunt border security and eliminate border law enforcement.

and he wants to give illegal immigrants federal resources and a guaranteed path to citizenship while they are receiving that federal aid.

it is open borders without saying it.

lmao keep up that fear mongering
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Blue_Inigo
11/07/19 2:25:57 PM
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Loud_Pipes posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
Im not interested in your racist bullshit. Your shtick is stupid obvious


seek help. you are clearly deeply unseated if your knee jerk reaction to Bernie criticism is to insist that any criticism is racist.

I dont give a shit about Bernie, alt of some user who constantly shitposts. Your racist antics are what caught my eye.

We're done here. You can continue to spout your racist nonsense if you wish since the mods are slow to act, but at least have the balls to do it on your main.
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Annihilated
11/07/19 2:26:05 PM
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konokonohamaru posted...
I don't get this position for someone like Bernie. How does letting anyone who wants to come in, come in, help the working class? It hurts them the most!


Because the billioneahs
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Loud_Pipes
11/07/19 2:28:04 PM
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literally no one here said anything racist. get the fuck out if you respond to any criticism of open borders with accusations of racism. jesus what a fucking psycho.
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Tyranthraxus
11/07/19 2:28:30 PM
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Loud_Pipes posted...
this needs to be prevented, at any cost. it really would mean bringing in a ton of future voters who are just going to steer the country into the ground.


How do you know what candidates those people will vote for?

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ThePrinceFish
11/07/19 2:29:16 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Loud_Pipes posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
Im not interested in your racist bullshit. Your shtick is stupid obvious


seek help. you are clearly deeply unseated if your knee jerk reaction to Bernie criticism is to insist that any criticism is racist.

I dont give a shit about Bernie, alt of some user who constantly shitposts. Your racist antics are what caught my eye.

We're done here. You can continue to spout your racist nonsense if you wish since the mods are slow to act, but at least have the balls to do it on your main.

lmao what the fuck is wrong with you
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Darth_Malachore
11/07/19 2:29:23 PM
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Blue is on the fast track to a warning
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Bloodychess
11/07/19 2:29:24 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
How do you know what candidates those people will vote for?


You'd have to be a fucking moron not to figure it out

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Loud_Pipes
11/07/19 2:29:52 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
How do you know what candidates those people will vote for?


Gee it's so hard to see why they'll vote for the side that gave them "free" stuff
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Blue_Inigo
11/07/19 2:30:18 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
Loud_Pipes posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
Im not interested in your racist bullshit. Your shtick is stupid obvious


seek help. you are clearly deeply unseated if your knee jerk reaction to Bernie criticism is to insist that any criticism is racist.

I dont give a shit about Bernie, alt of some user who constantly shitposts. Your racist antics are what caught my eye.

We're done here. You can continue to spout your racist nonsense if you wish since the mods are slow to act, but at least have the balls to do it on your main.

lmao what the fuck is wrong with you

A spade is a spade. Of course, you would have trouble figuring this out. You have a tendency to side with reprehensible politicians
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Tyranthraxus
11/07/19 2:31:17 PM
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Loud_Pipes posted...
Gee it's so hard to see why they'll vote for the side that gave them "free" stuff


How do you know that though? Just because someone gives me free stuff doesn't mean I want them to work in government.

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Loud_Pipes
11/07/19 2:31:22 PM
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Anyone Blue_Inigo disagrees with is a reprehensible politician.

But the far left candidates who want open borders are somehow not reprehensible politicians.

fucking magnets, how do they work?
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Loud_Pipes
11/07/19 2:32:10 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
How do you know that though? Just because someone gives me free stuff doesn't mean I want them to work in government.


I guess they'll overwhelmingly be voting conservative then, and for border control that will prevent friends/family from also coming over to get free stuff!
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Tyranthraxus
11/07/19 2:33:59 PM
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Loud_Pipes posted...
I guess they'll overwhelmingly be voting conservative then, and for border control that will prevent friends/family from also coming over to get free stuff!


They might.

I mean you got a lot of them coming from Venezuela which according to you was destroyed by "free stuff"

A lot of the countries they're coming from as well voted overwhelmingly to ban abortions & Brazil elected Bolsonaro.

They sound pretty fucking conservative to me.

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Loud_Pipes
11/07/19 2:35:24 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
They might.

I mean you got a lot of them coming from Venezuela which according to you was destroyed by "free stuff"

A lot of the countries they're coming from as well voted overwhelmingly to ban abortions & Brazil elected Bolsonaro.

They sound pretty fucking conservative to me.


Yeah they are definitely going to vote for conservatives who want to secure the border even if it means their family and friends won't be able to come and benefit from free resources.

Should've known this is just a ploy to bring in more alt right supporters!
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Tyranthraxus
11/07/19 2:36:52 PM
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Loud_Pipes posted...
Yeah they are definitely going to vote for conservatives who want to secure the border even if it means their family and friends won't be able to come and benefit from free resources.

Should've known this is just a ploy to bring in more alt right supporters!
Why do you think they're trying to bring in their families and friends? A lot of them arriving here don't have any family left.

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King_Hutton
11/07/19 2:38:23 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Loud_Pipes posted...
I guess they'll overwhelmingly be voting conservative then, and for border control that will prevent friends/family from also coming over to get free stuff!


They might.

I mean you got a lot of them coming from Venezuela which according to you was destroyed by "free stuff"

A lot of the countries they're coming from as well voted overwhelmingly to ban abortions & Brazil elected Bolsonaro.

They sound pretty fucking conservative to me.

Yeah its like when people were accusing Clinton of trying to get Syrian refugees to come here because theyd help the Democratic Party. Like a bunch of religious conservatives are all going to suddenly change their mind about all of their beliefs.

There are families still voting Republican because Reagan allowed their parents to be refugees fleeing communism.
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