Current Events > They made Thor into a joke in Endgame

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But the way they portrayed his depression was painfully real wtf.

He was a 'joke' character with a serious arc, because sometimes people mask their depression with humor and faux-indifference.
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tragedy is comedy misunderstood.

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He was not a joke character at all. Wtf.
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I mean he was definitely portrayed as a joke.

Breaking down in tears going "but I can't see mommy I don't wanna do this, I can't see mommy"

The constant fat jokes (hoho Thor you are too pathetically fat to do anything relevant)

The fact that he gives up on his kingdom and doesn't even care while he's there, and then just abandons it instead of assuming any degree of responsibility.

I know people liked it, one of my friends absolutely loved it actually. But I got sick of it after a few minutes of it being a little enjoyable.

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lilORANG posted...

He was not a joke character at all. Wtf.

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The_Ivory_Man posted...

Breaking down in tears going "but I can't see mommy I don't wanna do this, I can't see mommy"

His mom was murdered and he goes back in time to the exact day it happens. The mentally unstable person is having trouble dealing with the situation. Not surprising.

The_Ivory_Man posted...

just abandons it instead of assuming any degree of responsibility.

He left the very capable Valk in charge. The one who has been leading them for all these years. Seems pretty responsible to me.
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It's worth keeping in mind that Ragnarok to the end of Infinity War is like three or four days for Thor. It's sort of a miracle he didn't kill himself.
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Thor was a tragic character
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I thought Hulk and Thor kinda got the shit end of the stick in Endgame.
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pegusus123456 posted...

It's worth keeping in mind that Ragnarok to the end of Infinity War is like three or four days for Thor. It's sort of a miracle he didn't kill himself.

This is a very good point

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XxKrazyChaosxX posted...

I thought Hulk and Thor kinda got the shit end of the stick in Endgame.

The two people who arguably get the most character development
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The_Ivory_Man posted...

I mean he was definitely portrayed as a joke.

Breaking down in tears going "but I can't see mommy I don't wanna do this, I can't see mommy"

I mean...a lot of people would have the same reaction towards seeing a dead relative, especially when Thor is now (within the context of the story) a shell of himself.

The constant fat jokes (hoho Thor you are too pathetically fat to do anything relevant)

Most of them coming from Rocket Raccoon and Tony...the team assholes.

The fact that he gives up on his kingdom and doesn't even care while he's there, and then just abandons it instead of assuming any degree of responsibility.

He didn't abandon it though. He put Valkyrie in his place because he knew he wasn't in a good place mentally.
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He gets amazing character development and is super relatable. I loved his arc.

Hulk, now there's a joke character. Just cucks down to Daddy Thanos and never really gets over it.
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Thor was the best part of Endgame if you care about anything other than big dumb action.

I will always find it odd that people shit all over Thor for having PTSD and mother issues, but have no issues when Iron Man has PTSD in Iron Man 3 or mommy issues in Civil War.
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I wonder will nerds fixate on one negative aspect and say the whole movie is shit like they do other ones
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I wonder if Korg and Miek lived with him. Korg definitely seemed like an enabler.

Still, it was endearing seeing people stick with him in his dispair and be a fellow NEET with him.

Hulk definitely feels like he got the short end though.

Marvel made us think that Thors lifes as a tragedy but then we realized it was actually a comedy

I feel like a lot of the people who hated fat Thor also hated the Mandarin in Iron Man 3. #SubvertedExpectations #HowDareThey #NotMySuperhero/Villain
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The fact that he gives up on his kingdom and doesn't even care while he's there, and then just abandons it instead of assuming any degree of responsibility.

He didn't abandon it though. He put Valkyrie in his place because he knew he wasn't in a good place mentally.

Also this is kind of in character if you think about it. Thor was always more into fighting and being a warrior than leading and being a ruler. It makes more sense for something like this to happen than for him to turn around and become some perfect king of Asgard in a few days just because he managed to kick Hela's ass. Did he even really show strong leadership in Ragnarok? Not that much.

He's still very young for an Asgardian. Maybe he still needs a few centuries to mature and grow into a true king like Odin.
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InfinityMonster posted...

Hulk definitely feels like he got the short end though.

Why? He got the one thing Bruce Banner always wanted most: peace with himself. He never has to worry about turning into a monster and destroying those he loves. His powers are no longer a curse. That's the thing he's always searching for in the comics but seldom achieves--and when he does it's pretty much always temporary.

From a character perspective, I would say it's the happiest ending he's ever gotten.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

I mean...a lot of people would have the same reaction towards seeing a dead relative, especially when Thor is now (within the context of the story) a shell of himself.

She died years before.

Thor mourned her and moved onwards.

He's not going "Wait I could save her!" Or "Let's just do this and get out without interacting." Or "I need to talk with her one last time." Or even just stopping and get choked up, it's not consistent with the way he has ever reacted to death, especially since he doesn't even care about Loki when he walks past him.

He instead starts hyperventilating and crying while Rocket calls him pathetic while reasserting about the family he lost.

And then he runs away crying.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Most of them coming from Rocket Raccoon and Tony...the team assholes.

Yeah most, but the others there still look at him as being pathetic. Shaking their heads while seeing him and all.

Dampproof posted...

He left the very capable Valk in charge. The one who has been leading them for all these years. Seems pretty responsible to me.

The same person who enslaved, tortured, and killed innocent people... Who was also shown to have a massive drinking problem. Can't imagine anything bad resulting from that.

She was off screen in charge but we have no idea what that means.

ledbowman posted...

There are a number of things to dislike from Endgame.

KillerSlaw posted...

Thor was the best part of Endgame if you care about anything other than big dumb action.

I will always find it odd that people shit all over Thor for having PTSD and mother issues, but have no issues when Iron Man has PTSD in Iron Man 3 or mommy issues in Civil War.

I didn't like Endgame much. But "just dumb action" then is a lame jab because I wasn't much of a fan of the action this time either.

Tony got more development and progressed, he worked through issues.

Thor ends the film still running from his responsibility... What actual development does he have?

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The_Ivory_Man posted...

There are a number of things to dislike from Endgame.

Agreed. Just hoping for consistency from everyone
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Yeah it was terrible and out of character. It's not even possible for Thor to be that pathetic. He'd have to change his entire personality and core essence.
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did you miss ragnarok cuz it started there
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pegusus123456 posted...

It's worth keeping in mind that Ragnarok to the end of Infinity War is like three or four days for Thor. It's sort of a miracle he didn't kill himself.

This.

Mom died a few years ago.

His home destroyed like 80% of his people dead, his father and brother killed and he failed to avenge them and his mistake cost literally half of all beings in the universe their lives.
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The_Ivory_Man posted...

Dampproof posted...
He left the very capable Valk in charge. The one who has been leading them for all these years. Seems pretty responsible to me.

The same person who enslaved, tortured, and killed innocent people... Who was also shown to have a massive drinking problem. Can't imagine anything bad resulting from that.

She was off screen in charge but we have no idea what that means.

She was in charge for years. We see she was the one people looked for guidance and ran the town keeping the remaining Asgards safe and also giving them a way of life.
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I wouldn't call that a joke character at all. Played for laughs, but funny things can be serious. His arc really hit home, including his "mommy" scene.
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