Current Events > What are your thoughts on the Netflix series 13 Reasons Why?

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I just finished Season 3. I wasn't sure if there would be but I guess there will be a Season 4 (not really spoilers but w/e)

I enjoyed it tbh.
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Garbage show that glorifies suicide and never should have been made.
Another example of scumbags being scumbags.
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Making multiple seasons really highlights how little the producers actually care about suicide/bullying
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

Garbage show that glorifies suicide and never should have been made.
Another example of scumbags being scumbags.

This is not true. I doubt you even watched it.
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WerewolfPaws posted...

Making multiple seasons really highlights how little the producers actually care about suicide/bullying

You clearly didn't watch it either.

Anyone who actually watched it that wants to comment?
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The entire point was she killed herself, blamed others, others felt bad, she escaped
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Never should have been made
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I think it's melodramatic af, but unlike Riverdale not in an entertaining way. But I don't get how the show glorifies suicide/bullying, because everyone comes off as an asshole in that show.

Season 4 spoilers plz

How did bryce die

If all the main characters killed him together then just shoot me


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Damn_Underscore posted...

WerewolfPaws posted...

Making multiple seasons really highlights how little the producers actually care about suicide/bullying

You clearly didn't watch it either.

Anyone who actually watched it that wants to comment?

Youre going to keep telling people they havent watched the show just because you dont like their opinion, so why would anyone bother lol
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GoodOlJr posted...

Season 4 spoilers plz

How did bryce die

If all the main characters killed him together then just shoot me

Thats a hell of a thing to put in the trailer for the 3rd season, I must say lol
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

The entire point was she killed herself, blamed others, others felt bad, she escaped

No, the entire point is that she killed herself and a lot of things happened that caused that and a lot of things happened because of it.

The show also doesn't explicitly say whether or not what she did was wrong. That's really up for you to decide. The show involves a lot of grey-area morality.

As I said, you never watched it. So please do if if you want to talk about it.
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I haven't seen it, but I heard people warned them not to make the show and that it would cause real life deaths. and they made it anyway, and people have killed themselves after watching the show

Season 1 was really compelling. Season 2 was a dumpster fire with fan fic quality writing. I havent watched season 3 and I probably never will
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Damn_Underscore posted...

As I said, you never watched it.

no I have but okay fuck off trolling please
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ive only watched a few episodes with my wife. it was pretty obvious i wasnt the target demo for it...
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

As I said, you never watched it.

no I have but okay fuck off trolling please

Then why would you say it glorifies suicide? Because that is a talking point of people who haven't watched the show, and is similar logic used by people who blame real life violence on violent video games. And if you did watch the show then you would know why it doesn't glorify suicide. The show is meant for adults, so if you can't handle the material in the show then don't watch it.
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GoodOlJr posted...

Season 4 spoilers plz

How did bryce die

If all the main characters killed him together then just shoot me

Here are the spoilers. They aren't that detailed.

Jess goes to meet Bryce and brings Alex to feel safer. Alex kills Bryce in a fit of rage. The main characters cover that up and blame Monty, who was arrested for what he did to Tyler and was killed in jail. Mr. Standall has a good idea that Alex did it (even though the police were blaming Clay this whole time) but lets it fall on Monty to protect his son. The season ends with the one person who knows that Monty could have done it saying his dislike of what the main characters did, and also a fisherman finding the guns that Tyler used, which Clay and Tony had dumped in the river
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Damn_Underscore posted...

RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

As I said, you never watched it.

no I have but okay fuck off trolling please

Then why would you say it glorifies suicide? Because that is a talking point of people who haven't watched the show, and is similar logic that people who blame real life violence on violent video games. And if you did watch the show then you would know why it doesn't glorify suicide. The show is meant for adults, so if you can't handle the material in the show then don't watch it.

Quit being so butthurt that people reached different conclusions about subjective media.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

Then why would you say it glorifies suicide?

Because it does

Damn_Underscore posted...

Because that is a talking point of people who haven't watched the show,

Nope

Damn_Underscore posted...

and is similar logic that people who blame real life violence on violent video games.

now you're trolling

Damn_Underscore posted...

And if you did watch the show then you would know why it doesn't glorify suicide

now you're trolling more

Damn_Underscore posted...

The show is meant for adults, so if you can't handle the material in the show then don't watch it.

wow
this is a funny trolling attempt

you done yet?
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Damn_Underscore posted...

I just finished Season 3. I wasn't sure if there would be but I guess there will be a Season 4 (not really spoilers but w/e)

I enjoyed it tbh.

There will be a season 4. It's about high school, season 1 they were freshman, season 2 they were sophomore, 3 were juniors, 4 will be seniors
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Zikten posted...

I haven't seen it, but I heard people warned them not to make the show and that it would cause real life deaths. and they made it anyway, and people have killed themselves after watching the show

People kill themselves all the time. Using the show as a scapegoat is stupid.
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BuckVanHammer posted...

ive only watched a few episodes with my wife. it was pretty obvious i wasnt the target demo for it...

This
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Makeveli_lives posted...

Zikten posted...

I haven't seen it, but I heard people warned them not to make the show and that it would cause real life deaths. and they made it anyway, and people have killed themselves after watching the show

People kill themselves all the time. Using the show as a scapegoat is stupid.

Suicide notes directly citing the show as the reason isnt a scapegoat lol
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Makeveli_lives posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

I just finished Season 3. I wasn't sure if there would be but I guess there will be a Season 4 (not really spoilers but w/e)

I enjoyed it tbh.

There will be a season 4. It's about high school, season 1 they were freshman, season 2 they were sophomore, 3 were juniors, 4 will be seniors

They werent freshmen in season 1. Hannah was already 16
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WerewolfPaws posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

As I said, you never watched it.

no I have but okay fuck off trolling please

Then why would you say it glorifies suicide? Because that is a talking point of people who haven't watched the show, and is similar logic that people who blame real life violence on violent video games. And if you did watch the show then you would know why it doesn't glorify suicide. The show is meant for adults, so if you can't handle the material in the show then don't watch it.

Quit being so butthurt that people reached different conclusions about subjective media.

I don't care if someone thinks it sucks. I do care if someone says or implies it is a danger to society, which is what that guy did. If he did watch the show, he did so with the mindset that "this show glorifies suicide" and fit everything he saw into that mindset.

I do think there should have been more talk about the wrongness of the act of suicide itself. Not necessarily with that being the final conclusion, just putting that argument more on the table. They did that somewhat but not really explicitly.
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It's literally a show (or at least started as one) about a girl who kills herself and sends out a bunch of tapes in some twisted attempt at revenge to make those she blames for her killing herself feel some immense amount of guilt.

It was fucking dumb from the start.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

I do care if someone says or implies it is a danger to society, which is what that guy did.

nope I didn't

at this point its obvious you're trolling
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I think it was an interesting idea.

MAJOR SPOILERS

The topic of rehabilitation of people who committed crimes is a topic than interest me. I am sure their is criminals who committed crimes as bad as rape regret their actions and some can change.But it could have been done better. Ani almost instantly become best friend with everyone while knowing everything about the school felt weird. Also she become friend with Bryce and think he can change and she then cover his murder....wtf?!?! Also I get they wanted to be relevant with the topic of illegal immigration, but I feel like it felt really like they just wanted to have the theme for tony and pulled it out of nowhere. I do respect them for the Tyler's storyline and acknowledging that male rape exist too and admitting that activism can go too far if done wrong. Don't get me wrong, I support rape survivors to stand, but their is a difference between activism and sjw activism(you know what I mean). Overall I don't think it's bad, but I don't think it was excellent either. Season 4 would have been more interesting if the theme of rehabilitation was explored more with Monty instead of killing him

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WerewolfPaws posted...

Thats a hell of a thing to put in the trailer for the 3rd season, I must say lol

Isnt it season 4 right now?

If its season 3 thats what I meant im sorry

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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

I do care if someone says or implies it is a danger to society, which is what that guy did.

nope I didn't

at this point its obvious you're trolling

It's funny that I have actual arguments to what you're saying you and your only response is "heh, you're trolling"

Yes you did. If a show glorifies suicide it is clearly a danger to society. Other people have mentioned how real-life suicide notes mentioned the show. But should the show be banned because of that? No. Again, the show is meant for adults. A kid watching the show might not understand the subtleties going on and might take everything at face value. But the only you can make sure that kids don't watch it is either by banning it or relying on parent supervision. People who blame real-life violence on violent video games want to do the former, and the arguments against that apply to this show as well.
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It doesnt glorify suicide though. They make it extremely apparent that Hannah made a dumb and selfish decision. The whole message of season 1 is that we all need to treat each other better and be able to rely on one another.
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You're operating under the mistaken belief that "glorifying" suicide works the same way as say, "glorifying" alcohol or drugs or shit does.

It doesn't.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

It's funny that I have actual arguments to what you're saying you and your only response is "heh, you're trolling"

Because your only argument was "you never watched it lol watch it"

I don't treat trolling with anything it doesn't deserve

Feline_Heart posted...

It doesnt glorify suicide though.

It glorifies what suicidal people think. Or one of the main reasons. To escape and she did.
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epik_fail1 posted...

I think it was an interesting idea.

MAJOR SPOILERS

The topic of rehabilitation of people who committed crimes is a topic than interest me.

I really liked this about Season 3.

Our society has a fetish for punishing criminals forever. If you commit one crime it's over for you. That will always be on your record, people will always think of you as a criminal, and it will be a lot harder to even get a job and live a productive life at all. That last point may have been easier for Bryce because he was rich, and he also committed many crimes, but the point still stands that no one would give Bryce a chance until the moment of his death, even though he tried to get better. People were angry that he stayed out of prison basically because he was rich, but how much would going to prison have helped him? The fact is it wouldn't have helped him at all. Prison in American society is meant to punish, not to rehabilitate, and a lot of people are OK with that.

I am taking more out of that than the show did, but yeah.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

It's funny that I have actual arguments to what you're saying you and your only response is "heh, you're trolling"

Because your only argument was "you never watched it lol watch it"

I don't treat trolling with anything it doesn't deserve

That clearly wasn't my only argument. But whatever, if you aren't going to actually address what I said then this is going no where.

Also did you watch the show beyond season 1? Because suicide is no longer the primary theme after Season 1.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

That clearly wasn't my only argument.

That's all you fucking said for the first few posts

So what is your fucking argument now? Let's start over.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

I really liked this about Season 3.

Our society has a fetish for punishing criminals forever. If you commit one crime it's over for you. That will always be on your record, people will always think of you as a criminal, and it will be a lot harder to even get a job and live a productive life at all. That last point may have been easier for Bryce because he was rich, and he also committed many crimes, but the point still stands that no one would give Bryce a chance until the moment of his death, even though he tried to get better. People were angry that he stayed out of prison basically because he was rich, but how much would going to prison have helped him? The fact is it wouldn't have helped him at all. Prison in American society is meant to punish, not to rehabilitate, and a lot of people are OK with that.

I am taking more out of that than the show did, but yeah.

Like I said I think it's a great theme, but I really felt like they could have done it better, but the critics were way too harsh with it. I feel like they missed the point and tried to make it feel life Bryce's actions didn't matter while it clearly did Ani being a new character is fine, but I felt she should not have been the main character and btw I agree with you

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It was alright I enjoyed it for what it was. The characters are a bit self righteous though
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Yeah, there are weird things with the plot but I like the overall mystery vibe that the show has.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

Yeah, there are weird things with the plot but I like the overall mystery vibe that the show has.

I am a bit disappointed they they killed Monty. The topic of change and rehabilitation could have been explored way more with him and I was starting to feel a little sympathetic for him

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TC talked specifically about season 3, I don't get why people talked about season 1.

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epik_fail1 posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

Yeah, there are weird things with the plot but I like the overall mystery vibe that the show has.

I am a bit disappointed they they killed Monty. The topic of change and rehabilitation could have been explored way more with him and I was starting to feel a little sympathetic for him

That is true. He seemed like the most evil guy until the very end. I started to feel bad for him too. But having only one person who knows he's innocent is interesting, and they will still be able to to talk about rehabilitation with him dead and Bryce dead as well. But I agree it may have been a stronger topic if he was alive.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

That is true. He seemed like the most evil guy until the very end. I started to feel bad for him too. But having only one person who knows he's innocent is interesting, and they will still be able to to talk about rehabilitation with him dead and Bryce dead as well. But I agree it may have been a stronger topic if he was alive.

I am concerned that the fact that they killed him will make season 4, season 3 : 2.0 if you know what I meant

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