Current Events > Increased pollution under Trump associated with 9,700 deaths in 2018

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Antifar
10/22/19 6:33:26 PM
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https://www.nber.org/papers/w26381
After declining by 24.2% from 2009 to 2016, annual average fine particulate matter (PM2.5) in the United States in counties with monitors increased by 5.5% between 2016 and 2018. Increases occurred in multiple census regions and in counties that were in and out of attainment with National Ambient Air Quality Standards (NAAQS). We explore channels through which the increase may have occurred including increases in economic activity, increases in wildfires, and decreases in Clean Air Act enforcement actions. The health implications of this increase in PM2.5 between 2016 and 2018 are significant. The increase was associated with 9,700 additional premature deaths in 2018.

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TheGoldenEel
10/22/19 6:34:17 PM
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People who vote for trump dont believe in science or facts

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OnWingsOfMisery
10/22/19 6:34:46 PM
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Were those deaths caused by the air pollution?
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OnWingsOfMisery
10/22/19 6:37:04 PM
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According to this national chart there was a comparable sharp increase from 2009 to 2010 when Obama was president.

https://www.epa.gov/air-trends/particulate-matter-pm25-trends#pmnat

And from 2000 to 2018 there has been a 39% decrease in the national average. Seems strange to cherry pick a small (probably temporary) spike now but to ignore the same spike during Obama's years or the national average trend in general. Almost as if you are trying to make an argument in bad faith.
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sktgamer_13dude
10/22/19 6:43:10 PM
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OnWingsOfMisery posted...
Were those deaths caused by the air pollution?

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marthsheretoo
10/22/19 6:45:39 PM
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OnWingsOfMisery posted...
Were those deaths caused by the air pollution?


Sounds like whatever the answer is, you've already decided not to care.
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karlpilkington4
10/22/19 6:47:14 PM
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OnWingsOfMisery posted...
According to this national chart there was a comparable sharp increase from 2009 to 2010 when Obama was president.

https://www.epa.gov/air-trends/particulate-matter-pm25-trends#pmnat

And from 2000 to 2018 there has been a 39% decrease in the national average. Seems strange to cherry pick a small (probably temporary) spike now but to ignore the same spike during Obama's years or the national average trend in general. Almost as if you are trying to make an argument in bad faith.


Why be impartial, when we can cherry pick data to attack people though/sarcasm
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__aCEr__
10/22/19 6:47:20 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
whos alt

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OnWingsOfMisery
10/22/19 6:47:22 PM
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lol at not understanding correlation and causation. lol at ignoring the long-run tend mentioned in post 4
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kingdrake2
10/22/19 6:47:45 PM
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marthsheretoo posted...
OnWingsOfMisery posted...
Were those deaths caused by the air pollution?


Sounds like whatever the answer is, you've already decided not to care.


he voted for trump i bet (onwingsofmisery).
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Unsugarized_Foo
10/22/19 6:49:31 PM
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He saved like 1200 million by hindering wind radiation
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Antifar
10/22/19 7:34:22 PM
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Bear in mind the Trump administration
1) estimates increased deaths from its changes to pollution rules
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/climate/epa-coal-pollution-deaths.html
2) has looked to change how estimates are done so as to make such estimates look less bad
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/trump-epa-estimate-coal-pollution-deaths-science.html

I think it's entirely fair to credit the increase in particulate matter and the effects thereof to the administration that has explicitly sought to increase it.
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