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DepreceV2
10/17/19 3:27:07 PM
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All Base Weapons will be available through gameplay. Do you believe it? I wont until I see it 1 year later but I figured I would inform everyone. Maybe they screwed up so bad with China that this is the only route they have to get some good PR back. Its like the Nuclear option for them lmao. Ill post sources as well.

Weve set our sights on not only creating the best game possible this year, but also on breaking down walls and bringing the community together. Starting with Modern Warfare, we will be:

Introducing crossplay to unite the community across platforms for the first time.

Removing Season Pass and a la carte DLC multiplayer map packs to ensure everyone can play together.

Delivering free post-launch multiplayer maps and modes for all players.

Releasing post-launch multiplayer maps and modes simultaneously on all platforms.

We are excited about what these changes will bring to Call of Duty players. That said, we also recognize there is one more topic that many fans are interested to learn more about.

Today, lets address the basics for the in-game economy coming in Modern Warfare.

We are introducing a new Battle Pass system, not a loot box system.

All functional content that has an impact on game balance, such as base weapons and attachments, can be unlocked simply by playing the game.

The new Battle Pass system will allow players to see the content that they are earning or buying. Battle Passes will launch timed to new, post-launch live seasons, so you can unlock cool new Modern Warfare-themed content that matches each season.

With the new Battle Pass system, players will be able to earn COD Points by playing the game.

There will be both a Free Stream and a Premium Stream of content in the Battle Pass System in Modern Warfare. New base weapons will be earned through gameplay, simply by playing Modern Warfare. Functional attachments for base weapons can be unlocked through gameplay as well just like in the games Beta.

The Battle Pass and the In-Game Store will feature a variety of cosmetic content that does not impact game balance.

The Battle Pass System for Modern Warfare will not launch when the game releases on October 25th. Heres why: First and foremost, we are all focused on making the Day One experience awesome. Second, its important to us that everyone who is playing Modern Warfare has the chance to work their way through the new game and unlock all the rewards that are waiting for you. We expect to launch this system for Modern Warfare later this year.

Understandably there are still questions around how the economy will evolve throughout the post-launch, live seasons. We recognize this will take time to fully demonstrate. Please know we are committed to delivering a fair system guided by the principles weve outlined here, and will continue to monitor feedback and player engagement to help us achieve that goal.

Please look for more information on the live seasons and post-release content plans for Modern Warfare throughout the year and beyond.

We are looking forward to playing in just a few days.

Thank you.


https://blog.activision.com/call-of-duty/2019-10/Announcement-Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-Post-Launch-Approach-to-New-Content
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PatrickMahomes
10/17/19 3:29:07 PM
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I read all the "battle pass" stuff and it just sounds like "themes," does it actually affect in-game gameplay?

I applaud the removing lootboxes and season pass noise, but if battle pass is just a new name for it, then it's a hollow gesture
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L0Z
10/17/19 3:29:50 PM
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Is it going to have cosmetics I can earn by playing?
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s0nicfan
10/17/19 3:29:54 PM
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Xenozoa425
10/17/19 3:31:07 PM
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I still don't get why you have to pay full price just to play the beta when it was out.
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Smashingpmkns
10/17/19 3:33:45 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
I wont until I see it 1 year later


The next game will be out at that point so no one will care.
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DepreceV2
10/17/19 3:43:53 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
DepreceV2 posted...
I wont until I see it 1 year later


The next game will be out at that point so no one will care.


Thats the point. If its the same 1 year later then they were legit
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Garioshi
10/17/19 3:48:54 PM
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Zero chance. They'll also have microtransactions.
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Were_Wyrm
10/17/19 3:51:27 PM
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Let me guess you have to buy ammo with real money?
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DepreceV2
10/17/19 3:54:27 PM
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Charlie Intel had an interesting tweet I saw. I went back to get I but it was deleted. I found the screen shot.

TSNdPox
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KillerSlaw
10/17/19 3:56:37 PM
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*January rolls around*

Hey guys, here's the microtransactions!

"But you said no microtransactions!"

Hahaha, eat shit.
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Shotgunnova
10/17/19 4:34:00 PM
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Microtrans-Activision

lmao
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Banjo2553
10/17/19 4:36:58 PM
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Yeah they've said this for Black Ops 4 and CTR. Not buying it.
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Crepes
10/17/19 4:37:55 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
ts like the Nuclear option for them lmao


FUcking hell. How depressing is the gaming state at the moment if a game not having DLC or Lootboxes is considered going "nuclear".
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Darmik
10/17/19 4:49:52 PM
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Friendship with lootbox has ended

Now Battle Pass is my best friend

KillerSlaw posted...
*January rolls around*

Hey guys, here's the microtransactions!

"But you said no microtransactions!"

Hahaha, eat shit.


They didn't say no microtransactions

DepreceV2 posted...
The new Battle Pass system will allow players to see the content that they are earning or buying. Battle Passes will launch timed to new, post-launch live seasons, so you can unlock cool new Modern Warfare-themed content that matches each season.


The pressure of a Battle Pass is that the content goes through cycles. Say you've got till October 31st to progress enough through the battle pass to get the skin you want. You either play the game enough until you reach it or you buy it. If you don't get it in time who knows when it will be available again? After Fortnite this will be the new thing.

Banjo2553 posted...
Yeah they've said this for Black Ops 4 and CTR. Not buying it.


CTR doesn't have lootboxes does it? It also uses the Battle Pass and I think it will be very similar.
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Banjo2553
10/17/19 4:53:56 PM
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Darmik posted...
CTR doesn't have lootboxes does it? It also uses the Battle Pass and I think it will be very similar.

More specifically they said it wouldn't have any microtransactions. Couple months after release they patched them in and altered the drop rates/in-game prices for items to encourage buying them.
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Darmik
10/17/19 4:57:41 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
Darmik posted...
CTR doesn't have lootboxes does it? It also uses the Battle Pass and I think it will be very similar.

More specifically they said it wouldn't have any microtransactions. Couple months after release they patched them in and altered the drop rates/in-game prices for items to encourage buying them.


When did they say it wouldn't have any? I know they weren't there at launch but it seemed obvious they were coming.

What do you mean by drop rates? As far as I remember you unlock stuff either through Adventure or the Battle Pass. None of it is random.
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EverDownward
10/17/19 4:57:46 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
We are introducing a new Battle Pass system, not a loot box system.

"It's not lootboxes, it's SURPRISE MECHANICS!!"
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legendarylemur
10/17/19 5:01:13 PM
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Can't they just do DLCs like normal people?

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Banjo2553
10/17/19 5:01:22 PM
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Darmik posted...
When did they say it wouldn't have any? I know they weren't there at launch but it seemed obvious they were coming.

https://screenrant.com/crash-team-racing-microtransactions-gameplay-presentation-e3-2019/
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EverDownward
10/17/19 5:02:05 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
Can't they just do DLCs like normal people?

And pass up on them sweet, sweet money whales? Absolutely not!
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Questionmarktarius
10/17/19 5:02:47 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Maybe they screwed up so bad with China

context?
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ultimate reaver
10/17/19 5:03:08 PM
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who cares?

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Darmik
10/17/19 5:06:18 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
Darmik posted...
When did they say it wouldn't have any? I know they weren't there at launch but it seemed obvious they were coming.

https://screenrant.com/crash-team-racing-microtransactions-gameplay-presentation-e3-2019/


Ah I think there was a misunderstanding there. The people who do the E3 demos and stuff on the showfloor don't necessarily know that kind of stuff. Activision should have contacted the site to clarify though.

If they promised no microtransactions they would have made a big deal about it. Like they are right now with no lootboxes in COD.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/17/19 5:10:28 PM
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Xenozoa425 posted...
I still don't get why you have to pay full price just to play the beta when it was out.

You didnt, if you preordered the game you got an extra day or 2 of beta access.
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DepreceV2
10/17/19 5:28:22 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
DepreceV2 posted...
Maybe they screwed up so bad with China

context?


You dont know about the shit show with Blizzard, Activision and China with Blizzard banning a Heartstone Hong Kong player for a year and taking his $10,000 prize money because he said on stream to Free Hong Kong? (Note: The did, after MAJOR backlash, give back his prize money and reduce it to 6 months) This was even in the national news and is drawing attention across the globe
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Questionmarktarius
10/17/19 5:30:55 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
DepreceV2 posted...
Maybe they screwed up so bad with China

context?


You dont know about the shit show with Blizzard, Activision and China with Blizzard banning a Heartstone Hong Kong player for a year and taking his $10,000 prize money because he said on stream to Free Hong Kong? (Note: The did, after MAJOR backlash, give back his prize money and reduce it to 6 months) This was even in the national news and is drawing attention across the globe

But, what does that have to do with Modern Warfare?
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Darmik
10/17/19 5:37:06 PM
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Lol it has nothing to do with China. Battle Passes are the new thing thanks to Fortnite. This will be the "look at how forward thinking we are!" thing until Battle Passes are controversial.

It makes sense. You either have to constantly engage with the game or spend money. It's the perfect Games as a Service model.
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DoGCyN
10/17/19 5:37:46 PM
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press X to doubt
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Irony
10/17/19 5:39:18 PM
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DepreceV2
10/17/19 7:39:57 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
DepreceV2 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
DepreceV2 posted...
Maybe they screwed up so bad with China

context?


You dont know about the shit show with Blizzard, Activision and China with Blizzard banning a Heartstone Hong Kong player for a year and taking his $10,000 prize money because he said on stream to Free Hong Kong? (Note: The did, after MAJOR backlash, give back his prize money and reduce it to 6 months) This was even in the national news and is drawing attention across the globe

But, what does that have to do with Modern Warfare?


Activision and Blizzard are handcuffed together. They are called Activision-Blizzard for a reason. What happens to one effects the other. All that stuff going down with Blizzard. Do you know what Activision was trying to do during this time? Get Call of Duty Mobile approved in China. The same game that had over 100 million downloads before accessing China.

Do you see how they are connected now? No way ones actions dont effect the other
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