Current Events > Who is Superman's one true villain?

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His alien arch-nemesis or his human arch-nemesis?

Which boils down to is Superman essentially an alien because of his birth or a human because of how he was raised?

Which boils down to the old 'are leaders born or raised' debate

Discuss
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Condiment King
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Good storytelling.
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Luthor.

Darksied is the Justice League's villain.
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Batman

K181 posted...

Good storytelling.

sick burn
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Spider Man's is Venom and its not even close.
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Duncanwii posted...

Spider Man's is Venom and its not even close.

I thought his was Doc Ock...
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Villain is a quality live-action movie.
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Feline_Heart posted...

K181 posted...

Good storytelling.

sick burn

Huh? I don't get how it was storytelling

A bit of a stretch, sure but...
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wait. spider-man's is green goblin?

Honestly pretty much all of supes villains have been turned either into JL lv threats or supergirls. Darkseid, brainiac, Lex Luthor, live wire

Doomsday isn't a recurring enough antagonist, nor is mongol. Matallo isn't main arch enemy material either.

So that just leaves........Mr Mxyzptlk?

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Duncanwii posted...

Spider Man's is Venom and its not even close.

No lmao. He hasn't been that relevant since the 90s and even then he was never Spidey's number 1 villain. I'd say that its either Green Goblin or Doc Ock. Doc Ock especially has been a good contender for Spidey's number 1 villain this decade
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Darkseid was never intended to be a part of the rest of DC so it can't be him.


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DK9292 posted...

Duncanwii posted...

Spider Man's is Venom and its not even close.

I thought his was Doc Ock...

Venom is more of an anti hero now iirc. Especially since they came up with Agent Venom and shit

Doc Ock does have an argument, especially with the whole Superior Spider Man thing
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In my head Doc Ock is the primary Spider-Man villain. Movies have done him raw.

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Green Goblin will always be Spider-Man's.

The X Dawg posted...

Green Goblin will always be Spider-Man's.

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Madds mickleson
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Prismsblade posted...

Honestly pretty much all of supes villains have been turned either into JL lv threats or supergirls. Darkseid, brainiac, Lex Luthor, live wire

Doomsday isn't a recurring enough antagonist, nor is mongol. Matallo isn't main arch enemy material either.

So that just leaves........Mr Mxyzptlk?

Funnily enough, this is the exact plot of Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow. Villains from the future say that today is the day Superman is killed by his greatest foe. It turns out that it was meant literally: Mxyzptlk is an omnipotent being. He is thegreatest foe, even if he isn't the most notable.
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Lex.

Brainiac would have been a better second option and even then, I think I still lean towards Lex.

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I thought it was thanos.

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pegusus123456 posted...

Prismsblade posted...

Honestly pretty much all of supes villains have been turned either into JL lv threats or supergirls. Darkseid, brainiac, Lex Luthor, live wire

Doomsday isn't a recurring enough antagonist, nor is mongol. Matallo isn't main arch enemy material either.

So that just leaves........Mr Mxyzptlk?

Funnily enough, this is the exact plot of Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow. Villains from the future say that today is the day Superman is killed by his greatest foe. It turns out that it was meant literally: Mxyzptlk is an omnipotent being. He is thegreatest foe, even if he isn't the most notable.

That was actually pretty awesome. Particularly his motive rant.

"The big problem with being immortal is filling your time. For example, I spent the first two thousand years of my existence doing absolutely nothing. I didn't move, I didn't even breathe. Eventually, simple inertia became tiresome, so I spent the next two thousand years being saintly and benign, only doing good deeds. When THAT novelty began to fade, I decided to try being mischievous. Now two thousand years later, I'm bored again. I need a change. Starting with your death, I shall spent the next two millenia being evil! After that, who knows? Perhaps I'll try being guilty for a while."
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DK9292 posted...

pegusus123456 posted...

Prismsblade posted...

Honestly pretty much all of supes villains have been turned either into JL lv threats or supergirls. Darkseid, brainiac, Lex Luthor, live wire

Doomsday isn't a recurring enough antagonist, nor is mongol. Matallo isn't main arch enemy material either.

So that just leaves........Mr Mxyzptlk?

Funnily enough, this is the exact plot of Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow. Villains from the future say that today is the day Superman is killed by his greatest foe. It turns out that it was meant literally: Mxyzptlk is an omnipotent being. He is thegreatest foe, even if he isn't the most notable.

That was actually pretty awesome. Particularly his motive rant.

"The big problem with being immortal is filling your time. For example, I spent the first two thousand years of my existence doing absolutely nothing. I didn't move, I didn't even breathe. Eventually, simple inertia became tiresome, so I spent the next two thousand years being saintly and benign, only doing good deeds. When THAT novelty began to fade, I decided to try being mischievous. Now two thousand years later, I'm bored again. I need a change. Starting with your death, I shall spent the next two millenia being evil! After that, who knows? Perhaps I'll try being guilty for a while."

I particularly like the next line.

"Did you honestly believe a fifth-dimensional sorcerer would resemble a funny little man in a derby hat? Would you like to see how I really look?"

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pegusus123456 posted...

DK9292 posted...

pegusus123456 posted...

Prismsblade posted...

Honestly pretty much all of supes villains have been turned either into JL lv threats or supergirls. Darkseid, brainiac, Lex Luthor, live wire

Doomsday isn't a recurring enough antagonist, nor is mongol. Matallo isn't main arch enemy material either.

So that just leaves........Mr Mxyzptlk?

Funnily enough, this is the exact plot of Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow. Villains from the future say that today is the day Superman is killed by his greatest foe. It turns out that it was meant literally: Mxyzptlk is an omnipotent being. He is thegreatest foe, even if he isn't the most notable.

That was actually pretty awesome. Particularly his motive rant.

"The big problem with being immortal is filling your time. For example, I spent the first two thousand years of my existence doing absolutely nothing. I didn't move, I didn't even breathe. Eventually, simple inertia became tiresome, so I spent the next two thousand years being saintly and benign, only doing good deeds. When THAT novelty began to fade, I decided to try being mischievous. Now two thousand years later, I'm bored again. I need a change. Starting with your death, I shall spent the next two millenia being evil! After that, who knows? Perhaps I'll try being guilty for a while."

I particularly like the next line.

"Did you honestly believe a fifth-dimensional sorcerer would resemble a funny little man in a derby hat? Would you like to see how I really look?"

Indeed. I'm not normally a fan of "comic dialogue" where they usually end up trying too hard, but Mxyzptlk made it work in that story. Probably because he actually WAS powerful enough to get away with it, and he's clearly not trying to be cool. He's just got a total "know what? fuck you" tone going on.
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Himself
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DK9292 posted...

Indeed. I'm not normally a fan of "comic dialogue" where they usually end up trying too hard, but Mxyzptlk made it work in that story. Probably because he actually WAS powerful enough to get away with it, and he's clearly not trying to be cool. He's just got a total "know what? fuck you" tone going on.

No posturing, just telling you how it is.

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Doomsday and Brainiac are more nemeses to him than Darkseid. Darkseid is more a universe-size threat that requires the entire Justice League.

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