Current Events > As of now, which Democrat would you vote for?

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Or which countries he invaded, rather
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I would like to add to my previous post: the principle reasons I support Bernie Sanders are:

1)His policy proposals aim to be complete solutions. He'll almost certainly have to compromise to get actual laws, but most politicians simply don't see as far as he does. The benefit of this is that it makes his policies more inspiring, but it also provides guidance for a movement in the long-term.

2) Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who isn't kow-towing to the DNC. Even Warren is assuring the party apparatchiks that she won't step on their toes. However, the DNC's strategies have failed to sustain any success: Democrats have controlled the House for all of 8 years total since 1992, for example. The DNC's incompetence will ensure that any Democratic gains in 2020 will be ephemeral. We have to try something new.

3) I don't think a Sanders administration would be staffed with the usual Democratic appointees. His opponents would likely draw primarily on former Obama people(especially Biden). Sanders, on the other hand, surrounds himself with a much different crowd, including dynamic, younger people like Faiz Shakir, Ro Khanna, and Nina Turner. I think he would do a lot to raise social democratic stars to power and prestige, a lot more than anyone else.

Doom_Art posted...

Also please explain @De_Evolution which wars Obama started

Libya, Syria.

Also complicit in Yemen.

Obama was responsible for ISIS being armed in Syria.

Assad got in TV and told the world foreign terrorists had co-opted the revolution and were doing bad things.

In 2011.

Western media covered up the truth until we all came to find out the truth later. That many jihadis and terrorists in Syria were not even from there. They came from Jordan, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Iraq and all over the Middle East.

Not to mention the entire region being unstable was done by Bush, but we made it worse by funding and arming the jihadis there.

Not to mention we took out Libya and there was CIA involvement (Benghazi) because that administration was corrupt as fuck in foreign policy.

With Libya destablized weapons and jihadis flowed even more heavily through the Middle East and Africa.

Which is by design because we have corruption at our upper levels of government.

Wesley Clark blew the whistle on this over a decade ago and people act fucking ignorant and sweep it under the rug.

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The region was destabilized on purpose.

There was gun smuggling as far south in Africa as Nigeria all the way into Syria and Iraq with money and weapons moving both ways. By design.

From Boko Haram to ISIS.

Not to mention the ISIS soldiers we already armed and funded.

The journalists we had jailed and detained overseas under Obama in Yemen and Somalia.

Us killing Anwar Al-Awlaki and his son in Yemen.

Iraq and Libya were illegal wars and crimes against humanity but because people are easily brainwashed our government just justifies the assassinations and the invasions.

I'm talking to fucking sheep.
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Biden

But that will probably change.
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De Evolution posted...

Libya, Syria.

Also complicit in Yemen.

Those were bombing campaigns. Stuff like that ain't stopping if Gabbard is in charge as she seems to not mind that sort of thing

She's not a dove. She's in the same spot as just about any other Democratic president of the last 40 years. Quit trying to mould her into something she is not.

Just admit you only like Gabbard because she's hot and more right wing then other Dems. I'd at least have some respect for you.
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Doom_Art posted...

De Evolution posted...

Libya, Syria.

Also complicit in Yemen.

Those were bombing campaigns. Stuff like that ain't stopping if Gabbard is in charge as she seems to not mind that sort of thing

She's not a dove. She's in the same spot as just about any other Democratic president of the last 40 years. Quit trying to mould her into something she is not.

Just admit you only like Gabbard because she's hot and more right wing then other Dems. I'd at least have some respect for you.

Way to ignore all the other aspects of my post about our administration directly funding and arming people on purpose for proxy war purposes.

Fucking shill of a hack. I don't give a fuck about your worthless respect.
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De Evolution posted...

I'm talking to fucking sheep.

we get it, you're a /pol/ loser. move on with your """life""".

The rest of your post was pointless because while arming groups is an issue it's rather difficult to solve and there's absolutely nothing to suggest that Gabbard will take the matter any more seriously than any other candidate

Not really worth addressing

And it was unnecessary as my question was regarding which nations Obama supposedly invaded
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Spooking posted...

De Evolution posted...

Way to ignore all the other aspects of my post about our administration directly funding and arming people on purpose for proxy war purposes.

I suggest blocking that user since he always argues in bad faith.

Done
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If Gabbard is out then nobody. Looks like I'll be voting for the Libertarian again.
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Ah well that's too bad. I enjoy stomping on fervent Gabbard supporters delusions
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SauI_Goodman posted...

If Gabbard is out then nobody. Looks like I'll be voting for the Libertarian again.

I'm considering writing her in as a show of symbolic support.

I'm also considering vote Trump.

All the other candidates are clowns.

I actually like both Yang and Marianne Williamson but not sure if they're right for the job. I like them as individuals though they both stood out to me during the debates as being people with their own unique ideas, policy initiatives, and truly believing in helping the country.

Unlike the other establishment hacks on stage. I felt like other candidates have no integrity or actual stance they would just say anything to get elected.
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Sanders and Warren have the best ideas. Everyone else is copying them.
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De Evolution posted...

I felt like other candidates have no integrity or actual stance they would just say anything to get elected.

De Evolution posted...

I'm also considering vote Trump.

Lol
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Yang or Warren.

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/
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Bernie. The world needs more than the plodding few tweaks that'll happen under the other candidates.
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Hexenherz posted...

Sanders is too old so you'd better hope his VP choice is solid if you vote for him.

I trust that he will make a solid VP choice. More importantly, I trust that he'll put the movement he's built to work and surround himself with people like Shahid Buttar. A reclamation of the Democratic party that'll last beyond whatever he's got left in the tank. "Not me. Us."

That's how I've made my peace with his age because it worried me too.
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andel posted...

bernie or warren are preferred but any dem over trump

Bernie's the kind of guy who will live to at least his 90s, so I'm not worried about him dying in office. He doesn't show any signs of dementia or senility at all and he's not fat
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Personally, I don't give a damn about foreign policy unless a candidate is willing to embrace crashing the economy and rendering the US dollar worthless. Realize that the US government is a bunch of bullies while being part time lapdogs for the Saudis. Given our world reserve currency status, the US can sanction banks and fine them billions of dollars and threaten to embargo those banks from doing transactions in USD if they don't comply. In fact, they did do that to a German or Swiss bank in Obama's administration. And when the US wants a billion of USD, they print it out. Other countries, they have to exchange an equivalent amount.

And given how our dollar is used as currency for oil trading thanks to a deal with the Saudis, it's too dangerous to piss them off so we support them in whatever shenanigans they have in mind, like the Yemeni war, where the US has been supporting them with weapons, planes, logistics, fuel, practically everything but actual troops.

So you can imagine there are a lot of countries looking see us get kicked off our high horse. In fact, some tried, but we introduced DEMOCRACY to ensure that didn't happen. For instance, take Libya, the media doesn't talk much about why we went in, but it was because Ghaddafi was no longer accepting USD for oil sales and instead wanted to create a gold backed currency to use universally across Africa. That's a threat to the USD, thus we needed to introduce DEMOCRACY.

Luckily for the rest of world, distributed ledger tech (blockchain) will be the USD's maker. This is practically the only reason why I'm paying attention to Yang as he has at the very least acknowledged the tech. And honestly, you should be paying attention too and look to get into investing. A recession is coming, and the US dollar is getting so close to a situation where it'll be hyperinflated. You guys need to protect yourselves.
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Sad_Face posted...

How hard was it to fit all this on your sandwich board?
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bump
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