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SaltyWet
08/26/19 1:33:47 PM
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What am I missing here?
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Mystery_Mission
08/26/19 1:38:09 PM
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HnAX1BX

are you blind or stupid
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MC_BatCommander
08/26/19 1:38:45 PM
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Maybe you should get glasses
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FF_Redux
08/26/19 1:39:19 PM
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Whoa they really amped up the combat model of Squall at least, maybe I'll get it. My FF8 on steam is corrupt somehow

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s0nicfan
08/26/19 1:39:24 PM
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nevershine
08/26/19 1:40:09 PM
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Lol

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Mystery_Mission
08/26/19 1:40:24 PM
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eston
08/26/19 1:41:18 PM
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s0nicfan
08/26/19 1:42:40 PM
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eston posted...
rp5WTfE


It's like I'm looking at the same image side by side!
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Veggeta_MAX
08/26/19 1:43:16 PM
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@SaltyWet please respond to all these people

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Polycosm
08/26/19 1:44:23 PM
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SaltyWet posted...
What am I missing here?

eyeballs?
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SaltyWet
08/26/19 1:44:27 PM
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Remaster is a half hearted cash grab. I will probably still get.
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ocelot51
08/26/19 1:44:37 PM
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I REALLY don't like Squall's remastered model.
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Pogo_Marimo
08/26/19 1:45:42 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
It's like I'm looking at the same image side by side!
I think he's just trolling. He probably just put the same image side by side to make us THINK one was the "remaster".

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manmouse
08/26/19 1:46:03 PM
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Im not a fan of the Kingdom Hearts art style at all, I actually prefer the grainy PS graphics.
Plus, always played it on CRT TVs, so the rough pixels were always smooth to me.

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Musourenka
08/26/19 1:46:34 PM
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How's Shiva?
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Veggeta_MAX
08/26/19 1:47:08 PM
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TC, you should have started with "Junction system is still gonna be trash" and you'd won this topic 100%.

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King Rial
08/26/19 1:48:20 PM
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ocelot51 posted...
I REALLY don't like Squall's remastered model.

His face looks less manly. He looked fine in the Kingdom Hearts games. He almost looks like a different person now. Face is too slinder.
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TheDreadedWave
08/26/19 1:48:54 PM
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Remove Rinoa and Squall and you might have a decent game.
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SaltyWet
08/26/19 1:50:14 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
TC, you should have started with "Junction system is still gonna be trash" and you'd won this topic 100%.

I like the Junction system.
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s0nicfan
08/26/19 1:51:05 PM
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SaltyWet posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
TC, you should have started with "Junction system is still gonna be trash" and you'd won this topic 100%.

I like the Junction system.


Junction was a great system paired with the worst thing to ever be in a final fantasy, the draw system. The idea of equipping abilities and summons instead of using them was used again in Golden Sun and it was great there, too.
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NickDipple
08/26/19 1:53:29 PM
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The you're the best looking guy here meme always gets me lol
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Veggeta_MAX
08/26/19 1:54:19 PM
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Equiping GFs to equip magic to a status attribute is the dumbest thing ever.

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Musourenka
08/26/19 1:59:16 PM
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TheDreadedWave posted...
Remove Rinoa and Squall and you might have a decent game.


Irvine is worse. He should go, too.

Zell, Quistis, and Selphie... I guess that's a workable trio.
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Solid Sonic
08/26/19 2:01:50 PM
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eston posted...
rp5WTfE

Why does he look so...metrosexual in the remaster? Like he looks like he's wearing guyliner.
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s0nicfan
08/26/19 2:02:28 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
hy does he look so...metrosexual in the remaster? Like he looks like he's wearing guyliner.


Is this your first Final Fantasy?
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Solid Sonic
08/26/19 2:08:53 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Solid Sonic posted...
hy does he look so...metrosexual in the remaster? Like he looks like he's wearing guyliner.


Is this your first Final Fantasy?

>_>

Actually, it was.
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s0nicfan
08/26/19 2:12:17 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Solid Sonic posted...
hy does he look so...metrosexual in the remaster? Like he looks like he's wearing guyliner.


Is this your first Final Fantasy?

>_>

Actually, it was.


Then let me introduce you to the fabulous art of Amano, character designer for the Final Fantasy series, and his world where everyone is beautiful:
https://kotaku.com/the-beautiful-final-fantasy-art-of-yoshitaka-amano-30782112
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OmegaShinkai
08/26/19 2:23:39 PM
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Isn't the remaster literally just using his Dissidia model
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MC_BatCommander
08/26/19 2:23:45 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Solid Sonic posted...
eston posted...
rp5WTfE

Why does he look so...metrosexual in the remaster? Like he looks like he's wearing guyliner.


You're noticing exactly what I've been saying for years. The art style, voice acting, and music all started to get watered down and pussified starting with the ps2 era. To this day nobody can explain to me why they completely switched directions and made their franchise worse.


That's just how they do it, there's nothing to explain
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KINDERFELD
08/26/19 2:26:04 PM
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SaltyWet posted...
What am I missing here?


you must have damage to your occipital lobe.

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Holy_Cloud105
08/26/19 2:27:24 PM
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King Rial posted...
ocelot51 posted...
I REALLY don't like Squall's remastered model.

His face looks less manly. He looked fine in the Kingdom Hearts games. He almost looks like a different person now. Face is too slinder.

They made him look more like he does in Dissidia.
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OwlRammer
08/26/19 2:27:40 PM
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MC_BatCommander
08/26/19 2:31:54 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Solid Sonic posted...
eston posted...
rp5WTfE

Why does he look so...metrosexual in the remaster? Like he looks like he's wearing guyliner.


You're noticing exactly what I've been saying for years. The art style, voice acting, and music all started to get watered down and pussified starting with the ps2 era. To this day nobody can explain to me why they completely switched directions and made their franchise worse.


That's just how they do it, there's nothing to explain


But why such a distinct change from the NES, SNES, PS1 era? Like, what happened?


That's just how they do it now, you're looking for some deep reason and the reason is because they wanted to
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darkprince45
08/26/19 2:34:20 PM
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I thought this was just a cheap port like 7. This is hype. Is it just visual upgrade? When is the release date for this

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The Top Crusader
08/26/19 2:38:13 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
I thought this was just a cheap port like 7. This is hype. Is it just visual upgrade? When is the release date for this


A week from tomorrow.
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Solid Sonic
08/26/19 3:13:11 PM
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The Top Crusader posted...
darkprince45 posted...
I thought this was just a cheap port like 7. This is hype. Is it just visual upgrade? When is the release date for this


A week from tomorrow.

But NOT Sept. 9.

>:(
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Abiz_
08/26/19 3:44:40 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Then let me introduce you to the fabulous art of Amano, character designer for the Final Fantasy series, and his world where everyone is beautiful:
https://kotaku.com/the-beautiful-final-fantasy-art-of-yoshitaka-amano-30782112
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manmouse
08/26/19 4:15:25 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
But why such a distinct change from the NES, SNES, PS1 era? Like, what happened?
Different artists.

FF1-6 had art design by Amano. His style used androgyny and such but from a more classical angle, using surrealist elements and a cross between classic Japanese illustration and European styles.

FF7 was the first time Nomura designed the main cast, but he kept it simple and stuck to what could be portrayed easily in the early 3D style. He hadnt yet developed his worse habits, but this was the beginning of a more contemporary anime style, and an emphasis on a cast who are mostly (but not all) the same young adult age group.

Then with 8 we saw more of his habits taking form (lots more leather, zippers, heavy silver chains, more emphasis on modern attractiveness for the central cast, everyone is a teen).

FF9 brought back Amano, which is why we again see diverse age groups, diverse body types, less pop attractiveness, and overall a more fantasy weirdness.

Then with FF10 we see Nomura truly reach full Nomura mode. The hair is feathered and salon-styled and highlighted, the clothes have zippers and cutouts everywhere, pants are extra baggy, the chunky heavy silver chains and jewelry are all over the place, as a whole the J-pop influence is center stage.

And thats what really made the distinction between Amanos art and Nomuras art.
Amano wanted something timeless, using watercolors and surreal dreamy touches, androgyny thats paired with more haggard ugly appearances or whimsical weirdness, people ranging from little kids to frail old geezers, and taking as much influence from ancient appearances as modern.

Whereas Nomura clearly loves J-pop. He goes for a more glitzy, glamorous approach to appeal specifically to mainstream Japanese teens. Salon styled hair, heavy baggy clothes with zippers and belts and chains, gawdy silver jewelry that looks like it weighs these people down, more angsty expressions, a more clear aim towards a cast that is centered around teenagers (and any old guys are like Barret and Cid where theyre still not bearded and grey, and their age is like 30, or Auron being 35!).

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Bad_Mojo
08/26/19 4:17:20 PM
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Mystery_Mission posted...
HnAX1BX

are you blind or stupid


But it looks like that on my PC right now. Perhaps even better

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Solid Sonic
08/26/19 4:18:13 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
HnAX1BX

are you blind or stupid


But it looks like that on my PC right now. Perhaps even better

The PC version still uses the old backgrounds at their original resolution. They look ugly.
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Tyranthraxus
08/26/19 4:18:30 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
But it looks like that on my PC right now. Perhaps even better
Only because you applied the mod.

The base game, while better than the original still looks like ass.

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s0nicfan
08/26/19 4:21:34 PM
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manmouse posted...
Then with 8 we saw more of his habits taking form (lots more leather, zippers, heavy silver chains, more emphasis on modern attractiveness for the central cast, everyone is a teen).


IIRC Nomura intentionally designed the FF8 characters to be as difficult as possible to render, so that he could "challenge" his programmers into finding creative ways to push the engine.
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Bad_Mojo
08/26/19 4:24:42 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Only because you applied the mod.

The base game, while better than the original still looks like ass.


Got it

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Caution998
08/26/19 4:29:19 PM
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I'm actually thinking about getting this.

Might give FF8 another chance. I don't think I've played it since like 2001; maybe even 1999. I can't remember. It's been an extremely long time.
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creativerealms
08/26/19 4:29:38 PM
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At the end of the day it's still a PlayStation one game. Only so much can be done.
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