Current Events > Firefighter loses 3 of his children to a fire while answering false alarm nearby

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Three of the five youngsters killed in a Sunday-morning fire at a Pennsylvania day care center were the children of a volunteer firefighter who was responding to another call several blocks away.

The firefighter, Luther Jones, was with the Lawrence Park Volunteer Fire Department handling other calls while the neighboring Erie Fire Department battled the deadly flames at the Harris Family Day Care.

His children -- two daughters, one son -- were among those killed. Jones dropped them off at the center before going to work and had no idea about the fire there. His department was responding to a false alarm at the time.

Erie firefighters responded to the blaze in the three-story building around 1 a.m. amid reports of children trapped inside.

The victims, who have not been officially ID'd, ranged from 8 months to 8 years old, authorities said.

Two other children, 17 and 12, climbing on the roof and jumped to the ground. Other children were rescued by firefighters.

Jones has been a volunteer firefighter for 15 years and has been with the Lawrence Park department for about a year, Lawrence Park Fire Chief Joe Crotty told Fox News.

"Just an outstanding young man," Crotty said.

The cause of the blaze has not been determined. Erie Chief Fire Inspector John Widomski told The Erie Times-News that a smoke detector was found in the attic.

Day care owner Elaine Harris was taken to a hospital in stable condition.

The state Department of Human Services Office of Child Development and Early Learning listed the day care as in compliance with requirements following a Dec. 28, 2018, inspection. But a Jan. 3 inspection note highlighted "ashes and cigarette or cigar butts" in "a child care space, play space or food preparation area."

Full Article: https://www.foxnews.com/us/firefighter-loses-3-children-in-pennsylvania-blaze-as-he-responds-to-another-call


Well that's God damn depressing...
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Sad day

damn...
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Talk about tragic irony...
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Was the false alarm called in as a joke, deliberate bad intentions or just by mistake/ wrongful concern?
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ROBANN_88 posted...

Was the false alarm called in as a joke, deliberate bad intentions or just by mistake/ wrongful concern?

Does it matter ?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

Was the false alarm called in as a joke, deliberate bad intentions or just by mistake/ wrongful concern?

Does it matter ?

a little bit
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ROBANN_88 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

Was the false alarm called in as a joke, deliberate bad intentions or just by mistake/ wrongful concern?

Does it matter ?

a little bit

His kids are still dead tho

it's like asking if Gary the Stormtrooper remembered to flush before the death star blew up
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It my understanding that less people are dying in fires then ever before, and there are simply less fires than ever before, but our fire departments are bigger than ever before

This is a sad story, but probably a one off
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UnfairRepresent posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

Was the false alarm called in as a joke, deliberate bad intentions or just by mistake/ wrongful concern?

Does it matter ?

a little bit

His kids are still dead tho

it's like asking if Gary the Stormtrooper remembered to flush before the death star blew up

i think the situation would be much more deplorable if someone called it in as a joke, or willfully to draw them somewhere, than if it's just someone thought they saw a fire, but there was none / it was extinguished before they got there.

cause the other call meant he and his crew were unable to help because of the false alarm
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False alarms happen everyday. Firefighters have to respond to them anyway. Also, it sounds like there was a fire department that responded to the fire so it's not like it was ignored.

The firefighter, Luther Jones, was with the Lawrence Park Volunteer Fire Department handling other calls while the neighboring Erie Fire Department battled the deadly flames at the Harris Family Day Care.

The fire wasn't ignored, but it burned quickly enough that it was too late. So regardless of which fire department handled it, this tragedy was bound to happen, false alarms or no false alarms.

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GoodOlJr posted...

It my understanding that less people are dying in fires then ever before, and there are simply less fires than ever before, but our fire departments are bigger than ever before

This is a sad story, but probably a one off

Firefighters spend majority of their day NOT fighting fires. They spend a lot of time with medical calls

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darkprince45 posted...

GoodOlJr posted...

It my understanding that less people are dying in fires then ever before, and there are simply less fires than ever before, but our fire departments are bigger than ever before

This is a sad story, but probably a one off

Firefighters spend majority of their day NOT fighting fires. They spend a lot of time with medical calls

Wasnt there a fire in this case?

Ambulances seem more scalable and cheaper/effective as first responders
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GoodOlJr posted...

darkprince45 posted...

GoodOlJr posted...

It my understanding that less people are dying in fires then ever before, and there are simply less fires than ever before, but our fire departments are bigger than ever before

This is a sad story, but probably a one off

Firefighters spend majority of their day NOT fighting fires. They spend a lot of time with medical calls

Wasnt there a fire in this case?

Ambulances seem more scalable and cheaper/effective as first responders

It's standard protocol in the US to send the police, ambulance, and fire department to any emergency medical call. Too many instances of ambulances getting there and there's some other issue the other two departments need to handle.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Does it matter ?

If it was a joke the person should be on manslaughter charges.

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ArmieBuff posted...

The state Department of Human Services Office of Child Development and Early Learning listed the day care as in compliance with requirements following a Dec. 28, 2018, inspection. But a Jan. 3 inspection note highlighted "ashes and cigarette or cigar butts" in "a child care space, play space or food preparation area."

Fire official: Only working detector was in the attic; David Lee Miller has the details.

Ok, someone needs to get sued

I saw this the other morning on the TV at the gym. Apparently the organization which monitors daycares knew about issues of inadequate detection equipment in places like this for some time, and that fire chief was fucking pissed at them for not notifying the fire department about it. He was demanding they give him a list of similar businesses so his crews could go and check on them.
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Well, that's just bad timing. Fuck.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

ArmieBuff posted...

The state Department of Human Services Office of Child Development and Early Learning listed the day care as in compliance with requirements following a Dec. 28, 2018, inspection. But a Jan. 3 inspection note highlighted "ashes and cigarette or cigar butts" in "a child care space, play space or food preparation area."

Fire official: Only working detector was in the attic; David Lee Miller has the details.

Ok, someone needs to get sued

I saw this the other morning on the TV at the gym. Apparently the organization which monitors daycares knew about issues of inadequate detection equipment in places like this for some time, and that fire chief was fucking pissed at them for not notifying the fire department about it. He was demanding they give him a list of similar businesses so his crews could go and check on them.

Why let a couple dead kids get in the way of business? If the parents are that sad they just make so more.
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