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St0rmFury
08/12/19 11:41:28 PM
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Targeted in Walmart attack, Hispanics in El Paso flock to firearms classes

EL PASO, Texas (Reuters) - More El Paso residents than ever before crowded into a class over the weekend to become certified to carry a concealed gun in public in Texas after this month's mass shooting at a Walmart store that killed 22 people.

Guadalupe Segovia, 35, was at the class with her two children. She said her military husband had long been pushing for her to get a concealed-carry license, which allows the holder to wear a gun hidden under their clothes or carry it in a purse when they are in public.

Segovia said she felt urgency to do the required training now after the attack hit close to home. Im still going to be scared, even carrying a weapon, she said.

The vast majority of people at the classes were Hispanic; El Paso is a predominantly Latino city. Police say the accused gunman deliberately attacked Hispanics in the Walmart.

Michael McIntyre, general manager of Gun Central, one of the largest gun shops in El Paso and the host of the class, on Friday said his store tallied double the usual number of sales in the week following the attack, something that did not happen after previous mass shootings in Texas.

Most of the sales were for handguns, which can be strapped to an ankle or shoulder under clothing.

I have over 50 for this Saturday class and approximately the same amount for the Sunday class, and I normally have approximately seven, McIntyre said.

We actually had two people buy guns here who were actually in the Walmart on the day of the shooting. The other people are just saying, Hey, you know I want to be able to protect myself in the event of something going on., he said.

This is not the last mass shooting were going to see.

With or without a weapon, McIntyre acknowledged most people would not be able to fight back in an attack like the one in El Paso. The class acknowledges this, and students are taught to run first before firing a gun. Only 1% of people return fire, he said.

One out of a hundred is a fire, the other 99 will run off, McIntyre said.

Segovia, who has military training, said the concealed-carry class does not compare to what is needed in an active shooter situation, but she wants her sisters to prepare anyway.

Ive already told them, Lets go practice. Lets go practice. Its not just this one time that we have to keep coming to ranges and so you can feel familiarized with a weapon and be OK with it, Segovia said.

Segovia may be applying for her concealed-carry license, but she also wants to see changes in gun laws come from the top and make it harder for young people to get firearms.

I think weapons should be a privilege and for safety, not to go and kill people, Segovia said.

Gun control is definitely not on the horizon for Texas, where Governor Greg Abbot recently signed into law nine bills, backed by the National Rifle Association, that will loosen up gun regulations starting on Sept. 1.

One of the new laws lifts a ban on carrying firearms in places of worship. That ban came after a gunman fatally shot 26 people at a church in Sutherland Springs. Another stops landlords from prohibiting firearms on their rental properties.

The laws were all signed in the first regular legislative session after three mass shootings in Texas: the Sutherland Springs church massacre, a shooting at Santa Fe High School near Houston that killed 10 in 2018, and the El Paso attack that killed 22.

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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/world/2019/08/13/targeted-in-walmart-attack-hispanics-in-el-paso-flock-to-firearms-classes


Will we see another Black Panther kneejerk reaction?
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Smashingpmkns
08/12/19 11:43:45 PM
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NRA: "Hold on..."
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lilJoe457
08/12/19 11:44:20 PM
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Good. They should.
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Goats
08/12/19 11:45:07 PM
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This is the average conservative voter's worst nightmare (tied with maybe black people en masse getting guns)
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Johnny_Nutcase
08/12/19 11:47:19 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
NRA: "Hold on..."


Damnnnnnnnnn I thought El Pasoans were better than that.
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St0rmFury
08/12/19 11:47:32 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
NRA: "Hold on..."

"Immigrants should embrace our values!"

*buys firearms en mass*

"Wait wait! Not like that!"
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blablablax17
08/12/19 11:48:37 PM
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This is how it begins.
Not sure what, but something is happening here.
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konokonohamaru
08/12/19 11:49:46 PM
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Gun classes in El Paso are probably always majority Hispanic
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Johnny_Nutcase
08/12/19 11:50:41 PM
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Im still going to be scared, even carrying a weapon, she said.

Can't imagine what can go wrong with that!
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Johnny_Nutcase
08/12/19 11:51:16 PM
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konokonohamaru posted...
Gun classes in El Paso are probably always majority Hispanic


You just heard of El Paso last week didn't you?
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Malcrasternus
08/12/19 11:56:58 PM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Im still going to be scared, even carrying a weapon, she said.

Can't imagine what can go wrong with that!


This is what training is for. I was scared my first time too. But due diligence and regular classes overcome this.
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E32005
08/12/19 11:57:33 PM
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St0rmFury posted...
"Immigrants should embrace our values!"

if guns are values we really are fucked in this country
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HammeredBros
08/13/19 12:03:43 AM
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lilJoe457 posted...
Good. They should.

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Zikten
08/13/19 12:12:17 AM
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good for them. mass shooters should be scared of doing their attacks

they tend to go after "soft" target areas. where they know nobody can fight back
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CommonStar
08/13/19 12:14:18 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
NRA: "Hold on..."

The NRA loves this. Their right wing supporters, probably not so much. NRA loves the fear mongering which causes the extremists to cause more fear and people buying more guns.
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Led-Zeppelin
08/13/19 1:20:41 AM
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good for them. its nice to see people take their self defense into their own hands instead of relying on the government (lol)
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Johnny_Nutcase
08/13/19 1:21:29 AM
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Led-Zeppelin posted...
good for them. its nice to see people take their self defense into their own hands instead of relying on the government (lol)


Concealed carry is legal in Texas. It has been long before this shit in El Paso.
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Led-Zeppelin
08/13/19 1:22:56 AM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
good for them. its nice to see people take their self defense into their own hands instead of relying on the government (lol)


Concealed carry is legal in Texas. It has been long before this shit in El Paso.

yes as it should be everywhere imo
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Johnny_Nutcase
08/13/19 1:25:33 AM
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Led-Zeppelin posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
good for them. its nice to see people take their self defense into their own hands instead of relying on the government (lol)


Concealed carry is legal in Texas. It has been long before this shit in El Paso.

yes as it should be everywhere imo


So what happened in El Paso? You have 1-3k people in a Walmart and NOBODY came prepared? Or did they just puss out?
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Led-Zeppelin
08/13/19 1:26:43 AM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
good for them. its nice to see people take their self defense into their own hands instead of relying on the government (lol)


Concealed carry is legal in Texas. It has been long before this shit in El Paso.

yes as it should be everywhere imo


So what happened in El Paso? You have 1-3k people in a Walmart and NOBODY came prepared? Or did they just puss out?

lmfao 1000 to 3000 people in a single walmart?? what are u smoking
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biggernails
08/13/19 1:27:02 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
uh oh, minorities grabbing guns, now conservatives are going to start caring about gun control

lol
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Johnny_Nutcase
08/13/19 1:28:13 AM
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Led-Zeppelin posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
good for them. its nice to see people take their self defense into their own hands instead of relying on the government (lol)


Concealed carry is legal in Texas. It has been long before this shit in El Paso.

yes as it should be everywhere imo


So what happened in El Paso? You have 1-3k people in a Walmart and NOBODY came prepared? Or did they just puss out?

lmfao 1000 to 3000 people in a single walmart?? what are u smoking


Cut it in half in Texas and it's still unheard of but that's what they reported on the news.
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Malcrasternus
08/13/19 1:33:35 AM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
good for them. its nice to see people take their self defense into their own hands instead of relying on the government (lol)


Concealed carry is legal in Texas. It has been long before this shit in El Paso.

yes as it should be everywhere imo


So what happened in El Paso? You have 1-3k people in a Walmart and NOBODY came prepared? Or did they just puss out?

lmfao 1000 to 3000 people in a single walmart?? what are u smoking


Cut it in half in Texas and it's still unheard of but that's what they reported on the news.


As a large imposing Hispanic man that also carries a pistol, I can tell you without a shout of a doubt I'd be double timing it to an emergency exit. I have a pistol, not a damn intermediate cartridge rifle. If someone wants to be billy badass and try to be a hero by all means but most people that carry know that a pistol is for getting out of a bad situation first, and ending a situation if there's no other choice.
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Muten_Jiren
08/13/19 1:39:27 AM
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Malcrasternus posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
good for them. its nice to see people take their self defense into their own hands instead of relying on the government (lol)


Concealed carry is legal in Texas. It has been long before this shit in El Paso.

yes as it should be everywhere imo


So what happened in El Paso? You have 1-3k people in a Walmart and NOBODY came prepared? Or did they just puss out?

lmfao 1000 to 3000 people in a single walmart?? what are u smoking


Cut it in half in Texas and it's still unheard of but that's what they reported on the news.


As a large imposing Hispanic man that also carries a pistol, I can tell you without a shout of a doubt I'd be double timing it to an emergency exit. I have a pistol, not a damn intermediate cartridge rifle. If someone wants to be billy badass and try to be a hero by all means but most people that carry know that a pistol is for getting out of a bad situation first, and ending a situation if there's no other choice.

"no other choice" how is that not the case here? LIke obviously concealed carry and cowardice go hand in hand but literally you're choosing to do nothing when you're in the exact position that is supposedly the justification for that thing extra dick you're hiding
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Johnny_Nutcase
08/13/19 1:39:31 AM
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Malcrasternus posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Led-Zeppelin posted...
good for them. its nice to see people take their self defense into their own hands instead of relying on the government (lol)


Concealed carry is legal in Texas. It has been long before this shit in El Paso.

yes as it should be everywhere imo


So what happened in El Paso? You have 1-3k people in a Walmart and NOBODY came prepared? Or did they just puss out?

lmfao 1000 to 3000 people in a single walmart?? what are u smoking


Cut it in half in Texas and it's still unheard of but that's what they reported on the news.


As a large imposing Hispanic man that also carries a pistol, I can tell you without a shout of a doubt I'd be double timing it to an emergency exit. I have a pistol, not a damn intermediate cartridge rifle. If someone wants to be billy badass and try to be a hero by all means but most people that carry know that a pistol is for getting out of a bad situation first, and ending a situation if there's no other choice.


Shame on you and also shame on you for trying to be so much like @MabusIncarnate with your username.. just SICK
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MabusIncarnate
08/13/19 1:40:31 AM
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lol

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SapphireTech462
08/13/19 1:43:06 AM
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konokonohamaru posted...
Gun classes in El Paso are probably always majority Hispanic


Can confirm since thats where I used to live.
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Ving_Rhames
08/13/19 1:43:37 AM
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Good.
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Malcrasternus
08/13/19 1:50:07 AM
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Muten_Jiren posted...
"no other choice" how is that not the case here? LIke obviously concealed carry and cowardice go hand in hand but literally you're choosing to do nothing when you're in the exact position that is supposedly the justification for that thing extra dick you're hiding


lol

This bullshit right here. You know how to tell when someone's sheltered or the most harrowing thing they've ever experienced was behind a computer screen? When shit like that tumbles out of their mouth.
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Muten_Jiren
08/13/19 1:52:29 AM
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Malcrasternus posted...
Muten_Jiren posted...
"no other choice" how is that not the case here? LIke obviously concealed carry and cowardice go hand in hand but literally you're choosing to do nothing when you're in the exact position that is supposedly the justification for that thing extra dick you're hiding


lol

This bullshit right here. You know how to tell when someone's sheltered or the most harrowing thing they've ever experienced was behind a computer screen? When shit like that tumbles out of their mouth.

Gun nuts are such larpers lmfao it'd be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic. Like literally this guy has a murder machine on his belt, runs scared in his supposed element and then tries flashing that big fake dick around again when he knows it's nice and safe to do so. You're a coward, simple as that.
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LordFarquad1312
08/13/19 1:53:02 AM
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For all the good it'll do them when a psycho in full body armor with an assault riffle decides to fuck everyone up.
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008Zulu
08/13/19 1:54:50 AM
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Cops: We can't illegally Stop & Frisk that many people!
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Malcrasternus
08/13/19 2:02:33 AM
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Muten_Jiren posted...
Malcrasternus posted...
Muten_Jiren posted...
"no other choice" how is that not the case here? LIke obviously concealed carry and cowardice go hand in hand but literally you're choosing to do nothing when you're in the exact position that is supposedly the justification for that thing extra dick you're hiding


lol

This bullshit right here. You know how to tell when someone's sheltered or the most harrowing thing they've ever experienced was behind a computer screen? When shit like that tumbles out of their mouth.

Gun nuts are such larpers lmfao it'd be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic. Like literally this guy has a murder machine on his belt, runs scared in his supposed element and then tries flashing that big fake dick around again when he knows it's nice and safe to do so. You're a coward, simple as that.


You're so boring. You hit every single lame-assed checkmark that ignorant people roll into that I'm not sure if you all just think alike or if you all share a pamphlet around.
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Annihilated
08/13/19 2:32:44 AM
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I'll be marking every post that suggests conservatives have a problem with this somehow.
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Lorenzo_2003
08/13/19 3:16:22 AM
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Americans are upholding their Second Amendment right. Nothing wrong with that, whether they are Hispanic or not.

Are you sure Conservatives have expressed a problem with this, or is it just a Reddit meme?
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r25
08/13/19 3:20:45 AM
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Ah, so ironically the best way to gain support for banning firearms is by allowing everyone especially minorites to obtain them.
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gguirao
08/13/19 3:23:54 AM
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r25 posted...
Ah, so ironically the best way to gain support for banning firearms is by allowing everyone especially minorities to obtain them.

Well, as long as we have a president and administration who do nothing but cater to the NRA, there's no other choice.
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UnfairRepresent
08/13/19 3:26:09 AM
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Watch the NRA suddenly become pro gun control in El Paso now
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Malcrasternus
08/13/19 3:26:18 AM
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gguirao posted...
r25 posted...
Ah, so ironically the best way to gain support for banning firearms is by allowing everyone especially minorities to obtain them.

Well, as long as we have a president and administration that does nothing but cater to the NRA, there's no other choice.


Some of the most restrictive gun control measures have been passed by Republican presidents.
And the recent bump stock ban was helped along by the NRA.

If anything, lefties should be supporting the NRA. They've been dicking with our gun rights for decades now.
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SuperShake666
08/13/19 3:33:02 AM
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If white supremacists who had the support of the president wanted me and my family dead for existing, I would too.
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Evening_Dragon
08/13/19 12:35:06 PM
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Sad, but necessary at this point. I've been thinking that maybe firearm classes should be more popular, even as we take away automatic rifles.
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Evening_Dragon
08/13/19 12:42:48 PM
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Spooking posted...
Will the left finally give up on their futile effort in getting the 2nd Amendment repealed? It's costing them so many potential voters because of it.


source
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teepan95
08/13/19 12:44:18 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Americans are upholding their Second Amendment right. Nothing wrong with that, whether they are Hispanic or not.

Are you sure Conservatives have expressed a problem with this, or is it just a Reddit meme?

It's historical precedent
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Elmer_Glue
08/13/19 12:50:20 PM
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Good, everyone should be legally allowed to defend themselves.
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Bishop9800
08/13/19 12:51:31 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
Spooking posted...
Will the left finally give up on their futile effort in getting the 2nd Amendment repealed? It's costing them so many potential voters because of it.


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AlephZero
08/13/19 12:59:29 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Americans are upholding their Second Amendment right. Nothing wrong with that, whether they are Hispanic or not.

Are you sure Conservatives have expressed a problem with this, or is it just a Reddit meme?

It's a meme. Reagan signed an open carry ban in California 50 years ago because of the Black Panthers and now whenever there's a story about minorities exercising their Constitutional rights there are cries of, "Watch the right support gun control now!" despite it never happening. There's only one party pushing for gun control and it isn't Republicans.
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Solid Snake07
08/13/19 1:00:18 PM
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Goats posted...
This is the average conservative voter's worst nightmare (tied with maybe black people en masse getting guns)


Most Hispanics here legally are conservative. So congrats, you're a racist
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Sackgurl
08/13/19 1:01:53 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Most Hispanics here legally are conservative.


prove this statement
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