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Deadpool_18 07/27/19 1:28:01 PM #1:	Ive seen every single one and the worst Marvel movie is better than the best DC movie. Its like DC doesnt understand that doubling down on ham is NOT what people want. Every movie DC releases has awful slow motion scenes ala Zack Snyder. And even when they have decent actors they make them act like theyre literally within a comic book panel. On the nose dialogue that substitutes any self character development. Old tropes from the fucking 50s and 60s that arent even used in their current comic runs. Its like they prohibit their employees from taking any notes from Marvel. Aquaman was low brow hammy. Shazam was okay. The humor saved the film. But god damn. They have no excuse not to be pumping out blockbusters. --- "I'm so embarrassed. I wish everyone else was dead." <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:925256352] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Ive seen every single one and the worst Marvel movie is better than the best DC movie. Its like DC doesnt understand that doubling down on ham is NOT what people want. Every movie DC releases has awful slow motion scenes ala Zack Snyder. And even when they have decent actors they make them act like theyre literally within a comic book panel. On the nose dialogue that substitutes any self character development. Old tropes from the fucking 50s and 60s that arent even used in their current comic runs. Its like they prohibit their employees from taking any notes from Marvel. Aquaman was low brow hammy. Shazam was okay. The humor saved the film. But god damn. They have no excuse not to be pumping out blockbusters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenozoa425 07/27/19 1:30:20 PM #2:	DC does better with animation, but falls flat with live action. Marvel is the opposite, oddly enough. --- "Your flesh is a relic, a mere vessel. Hand over your flesh, and a new world awaits you. We demand it." <cite>Xenozoa425 posted [p:925256437] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>DC does better with animation, but falls flat with live action. Marvel is the opposite, oddly enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 07/27/19 1:30:40 PM #3:	The Dark Knight and Wonder Woman were legitimately great, but that's really about it for me. They have way too many misses for being one of the big two names in the comic world. It kind of blows my mind that Green Lantern is such a popular, iconic character, their one attempt was awful, and they haven't even bothered to try and make a new one and redeem themselves. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. Vicious_Dios Original - https://i.imgtc.ws/Zl0aw6F.png <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:925256444] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>The Dark Knight and Wonder Woman were legitimately great, but that's really about it for me. They have way too many misses for being one of the big two names in the comic world. It kind of blows my mind that Green Lantern is such a popular, iconic character, their one attempt was awful, and they haven't even bothered to try and make a new one and redeem themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 07/27/19 1:31:58 PM #4:	Shazam was pretty good. But it was basically a Marvel movie. It's a shame they didnt get Christopher Nolan or literally anyone other than Zac Snyder to try the darker more thoughtful comic book movies. Would have been nice for DC to have a change of pace from the lighter less serious Marvel movies but DC fucked it up. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:925256491] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Shazam was pretty good. But it was basically a Marvel movie. It's a shame they didnt get Christopher Nolan or literally anyone other than Zac Snyder to try the darker more thoughtful comic book movies. Would have been nice for DC to have a change of pace from the lighter less serious Marvel movies but DC fucked it up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Goats 07/27/19 1:32:41 PM #5:	Wonder Woman, Shazam, and Aquaman were all top tier superhero movies. --- Antifar had made one major error though. He'd ignored the sign that had cautioned him about cruelbuffalos wearing turbams. There was a key in between them. <cite>Goats posted [p:925256511] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Wonder Woman, Shazam, and Aquaman were all top tier superhero movies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 07/27/19 1:32:50 PM #6:	Deadpool_18 posted... Ive seen every single one and the worst Marvel movie is better than the best DC movie. Thor The Dark World is NOT better than Wonder Woman or Shazam. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist <cite>GATTJT posted [p:925256518] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>Ive seen every single one and the worst Marvel movie is better than the best DC movie.</quote> Thor The Dark World is NOT better than Wonder Woman or Shazam.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 07/27/19 1:32:58 PM #7:	because no one wants to see edgy bullshit <cite>Reis posted [p:925256523] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>because no one wants to see edgy bullshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/27/19 1:34:46 PM #8:	GATTJT posted... Deadpool_18 posted... Ive seen every single one and the worst Marvel movie is better than the best DC movie. Thor The Dark World is NOT better than Wonder Woman or Shazam. I honestly dont know. Wonder Woman was okay, but that slow motion scene on the beach with the Amazonians almost made me leave the theater. It was only good because it almost exactly followed the formula from Captain America: The First Avenger. --- "I'm so embarrassed. I wish everyone else was dead." <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:925256602] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>GATTJT posted...</cite> <quote>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>Ive seen every single one and the worst Marvel movie is better than the best DC movie.</quote> Thor The Dark World is NOT better than Wonder Woman or Shazam.</quote> I honestly dont know. Wonder Woman was okay, but that slow motion scene on the beach with the Amazonians almost made me leave the theater. It was only good because it almost exactly followed the formula from Captain America: The First Avenger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/27/19 1:35:20 PM #9:	Reis posted... because no one wants to see edgy bullshit Yes we do. Thats not what DC is doing. The Nolan trilogy was the last properly edgy thing theyve done. --- "I'm so embarrassed. I wish everyone else was dead." <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:925256621] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Reis posted...</cite> <quote>because no one wants to see edgy bullshit</quote> Yes we do. Thats not what DC is doing. The Nolan trilogy was the last properly edgy thing theyve done.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonJoe 07/27/19 1:36:13 PM #10:	Theyve made several. People dont want to like them. --- <cite>The_Undying_84 posted...</cite> We don't necessarily know all the risks of ... guns, or anything. <cite>CommonJoe posted [p:925256654] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Theyve made several. People dont want to like them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
50Blessings 07/27/19 1:37:32 PM #11:	I thought Shazam was good on it's own. Wonder Woman too. Didn't see Aquaman but heard it was alright to good. Their problem is that they wanted to play catch up to Marvel with Superman and Batman and it blew up in their face spectacularly. --- How about I say what I want and you keep crying about it? https://i.imgtc.ws/DhGMvI6.jpg <cite>50Blessings posted [p:925256696] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>I thought Shazam was good on it's own. Wonder Woman too. Didn't see Aquaman but heard it was alright to good. Their problem is that they wanted to play catch up to Marvel with Superman and Batman and it blew up in their face spectacularly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 07/27/19 1:37:51 PM #12:	Shazam was good. And Man of Steel is more enjoyable the more times you watch it. But I agree that most of their movies blow --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:925256714] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Shazam was good. And Man of Steel is more enjoyable the more times you watch it. But I agree that most of their movies blow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 07/27/19 1:38:03 PM #13:	I forgot about Shazam, I liked it a lot also. I thought Aquaman was very overrated, it was super corny with a lot of bad dialog. The visuals were nice though, but it felt real generic to me. I went into it thinking i'd like it more than I did, and I watched it a 2nd time thinking maybe I was harsh on it the first time but I wasn't. It was like a 6/10 for me. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. Vicious_Dios Original - https://i.imgtc.ws/Zl0aw6F.png <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:925256722] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>I forgot about Shazam, I liked it a lot also. I thought Aquaman was very overrated, it was super corny with a lot of bad dialog. The visuals were nice though, but it felt real generic to me. I went into it thinking i'd like it more than I did, and I watched it a 2nd time thinking maybe I was harsh on it the first time but I wasn't. It was like a 6/10 for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 07/27/19 1:39:16 PM #14:	MabusIncarnate posted... I forgot about Shazam, I liked it a lot also. I thought Aquaman was very overrated, it was super corny with a lot of bad dialog. The visuals were nice though, but it felt real generic to me. I went into it thinking i'd like it more than I did, and I watched it a 2nd time thinking maybe I was harsh on it the first time but I wasn't. It was like a 6/10 for me. Agree completely about Aquaman. Nice visuals, god awful movie. I give it a 5/10 solely because the visuals in IMAX 3D were sometimes stunning. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:925256763] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>MabusIncarnate posted...</cite> <quote>I forgot about Shazam, I liked it a lot also. I thought Aquaman was very overrated, it was super corny with a lot of bad dialog. The visuals were nice though, but it felt real generic to me. I went into it thinking i'd like it more than I did, and I watched it a 2nd time thinking maybe I was harsh on it the first time but I wasn't. It was like a 6/10 for me.</quote> Agree completely about Aquaman. Nice visuals, god awful movie. I give it a 5/10 solely because the visuals in IMAX 3D were sometimes stunning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__aCEr__ 07/27/19 1:40:34 PM #15:	I would definitely watch Shazam again over most of the Marvel movies in Phase 1 and 2. --- See you next Wednesday. <cite>__aCEr__ posted [p:925256810] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>I would definitely watch Shazam again over most of the Marvel movies in Phase 1 and 2.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/27/19 1:41:31 PM #16:	Zodd3224 posted... MabusIncarnate posted... I forgot about Shazam, I liked it a lot also. I thought Aquaman was very overrated, it was super corny with a lot of bad dialog. The visuals were nice though, but it felt real generic to me. I went into it thinking i'd like it more than I did, and I watched it a 2nd time thinking maybe I was harsh on it the first time but I wasn't. It was like a 6/10 for me. Agree completely about Aquaman. Nice visuals, god awful movie. I give it a 5/10 solely because the visuals in IMAX 3D were sometimes stunning. Youve gotta live so you can go and kill that son of a bitch! Avenge me! Im not shitting you, I walked out after that line. --- "I'm so embarrassed. I wish everyone else was dead." <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:925256860] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>MabusIncarnate posted...</cite> <quote>I forgot about Shazam, I liked it a lot also. I thought Aquaman was very overrated, it was super corny with a lot of bad dialog. The visuals were nice though, but it felt real generic to me. I went into it thinking i'd like it more than I did, and I watched it a 2nd time thinking maybe I was harsh on it the first time but I wasn't. It was like a 6/10 for me.</quote> Agree completely about Aquaman. Nice visuals, god awful movie. I give it a 5/10 solely because the visuals in IMAX 3D were sometimes stunning.</quote> Youve gotta live so you can go and kill that son of a bitch! Avenge me! Im not shitting you, I walked out after that line.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 07/27/19 1:44:02 PM #17:	They keep trying for that edgelord shit, and it just doesn't work for people flying around in fancy costumes. --- I exist, kind of. Two halves that don't make a whole. Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:925256968] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>They keep trying for that edgelord shit, and it just doesn't work for people flying around in fancy costumes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/27/19 1:45:04 PM #18:	50Blessings posted... I thought Shazam was good on it's own. Wonder Woman too. Didn't see Aquaman but heard it was alright to good. There problem is that they wanted to play catch up with Marvel with Superman and Batman and it blew up in their face spectacularly. This. They ruined everything by trying to play catch up. Zack Snyder didn't help, either. Or Joss Whedon. However the future is bright. WW, Aquaman, and Shazam were all really good movies. Birds of Prey has been getting some positive buzz and the cast is saying they had a lot of fun filming it. James Gunn Suicide Squad looks like it's on track to be fantastic. Some people have looked at Matt Reeves Batman script and are saying it's the best Batman script ever written. Shazam was so successful Shazam 2 is getting fast tracked and Black Adam is going to start filming soon and The Rock is super excited for it. Joker isn't part of the DCEU but this movie has been getting some ridiculous praise from very highly esteemed industry leaders. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:925257029] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote>I thought Shazam was good on it's own. Wonder Woman too. Didn't see Aquaman but heard it was alright to good. There problem is that they wanted to play catch up with Marvel with Superman and Batman and it blew up in their face spectacularly.</quote> This. They ruined everything by trying to play catch up. Zack Snyder didn't help, either. Or Joss Whedon. However the future is bright. WW, Aquaman, and Shazam were all really good movies. Birds of Prey has been getting some positive buzz and the cast is saying they had a lot of fun filming it. James Gunn Suicide Squad looks like it's on track to be fantastic. Some people have looked at Matt Reeves Batman script and are saying it's the best Batman script ever written. Shazam was so successful Shazam 2 is getting fast tracked and Black Adam is going to start filming soon and The Rock is super excited for it. Joker isn't part of the DCEU but this movie has been getting some ridiculous praise from very highly esteemed industry leaders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecSkorpio 07/27/19 1:45:46 PM #19:	It's really weird. I watched a video Ethan Van Sciver did and he said when he started at DC they made it a big point that, for the most part, their heroes were always to inspire hope and ooze heroism. Then the movies come out and it's like...super depressing. It probably wouldn't be that hard to recover from this either. A good Superman and Batman (no need for an origin at this point) and just never mention BvS or Justice League and people will just forget. --- https://i.imgtc.com/obYpb0u.jpg <cite>AlecSkorpio posted [p:925257067] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>It's really weird. I watched a video Ethan Van Sciver did and he said when he started at DC they made it a big point that, for the most part, their heroes were always to inspire hope and ooze heroism. Then the movies come out and it's like...super depressing. It probably wouldn't be that hard to recover from this either. A good Superman and Batman (no need for an origin at this point) and just never mention BvS or Justice League and people will just forget.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 07/27/19 1:48:00 PM #20:	Evening_Dragon posted... They keep trying for that edgelord shit, and it just doesn't work for people flying around in fancy costumes. It worked for The Dark Knight trilogy. The problem wasnt the tone. It was the man in charge (Snyder.) --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:925257152] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>They keep trying for that edgelord shit, and it just doesn't work for people flying around in fancy costumes.</quote> It worked for The Dark Knight trilogy. The problem wasnt the tone. It was the man in charge (Snyder.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Complete_Idi0t 07/27/19 1:48:25 PM #21:	What do you mean? Didn't you see the newest spider Man? <cite>Complete_Idi0t posted [p:925257171] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>What do you mean? Didn't you see the newest spider Man?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 07/27/19 1:49:02 PM #22:	Man of Steel is better than most MCU movies. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:925257199] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Man of Steel is better than most MCU movies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deadpool_18 07/27/19 1:49:34 PM #24:	Tyranthraxus posted... 50Blessings posted... I thought Shazam was good on it's own. Wonder Woman too. Didn't see Aquaman but heard it was alright to good. There problem is that they wanted to play catch up with Marvel with Superman and Batman and it blew up in their face spectacularly. This. They ruined everything by trying to play catch up. Zack Snyder didn't help, either. Or Joss Whedon. However the future is bright. WW, Aquaman, and Shazam were all really good movies. Birds of Prey has been getting some positive buzz and the cast is saying they had a lot of fun filming it. James Gunn Suicide Squad looks like it's on track to be fantastic. Some people have looked at Matt Reeves Batman script and are saying it's the best Batman script ever written. Shazam was so successful Shazam 2 is getting fast tracked and Black Adam is going to start filming soon and The Rock is super excited for it. Joker isn't part of the DCEU but this movie has been getting some ridiculous praise from very highly esteemed industry leaders. Im hopeful for the new Pattinson Batman, but Im not holding my breath. And WW, Aquaman, And, Shazam were really good for DCEU movies. As standalone movies, Aquaman is ultimate cheese, Wonder Woman piggy backed off of Cap, and Shazam was good. --- "I'm so embarrassed. I wish everyone else was dead." <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:925257218] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote>I thought Shazam was good on it's own. Wonder Woman too. Didn't see Aquaman but heard it was alright to good. There problem is that they wanted to play catch up with Marvel with Superman and Batman and it blew up in their face spectacularly.</quote> This. They ruined everything by trying to play catch up. Zack Snyder didn't help, either. Or Joss Whedon. However the future is bright. WW, Aquaman, and Shazam were all really good movies. Birds of Prey has been getting some positive buzz and the cast is saying they had a lot of fun filming it. James Gunn Suicide Squad looks like it's on track to be fantastic. Some people have looked at Matt Reeves Batman script and are saying it's the best Batman script ever written. Shazam was so successful Shazam 2 is getting fast tracked and Black Adam is going to start filming soon and The Rock is super excited for it. Joker isn't part of the DCEU but this movie has been getting some ridiculous praise from very highly esteemed industry leaders.</quote> Im hopeful for the new Pattinson Batman, but Im not holding my breath. And WW, Aquaman, And, Shazam were really good for DCEU movies. As standalone movies, Aquaman is ultimate cheese, Wonder Woman piggy backed off of Cap, and Shazam was good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 07/27/19 1:49:34 PM #25:	Zodd3224 posted... Evening_Dragon posted... They keep trying for that edgelord shit, and it just doesn't work for people flying around in fancy costumes. It worked for The Dark Knight trilogy. The problem wasnt the tone. It was the man in charge (Snyder.) Batman's supposed to be the dark brooding edgelord. And even then, Joker stole the show. Also only the second movie was decent. --- I exist, kind of. Two halves that don't make a whole. Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:925257219] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>They keep trying for that edgelord shit, and it just doesn't work for people flying around in fancy costumes.</quote> It worked for The Dark Knight trilogy. The problem wasnt the tone. It was the man in charge (Snyder.)</quote> Batman's supposed to be the dark brooding edgelord. And even then, Joker stole the show. Also only the second movie was decent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Goats 07/27/19 1:49:52 PM #26:	Hands. Lightning with my hands. Hands. Lightning with my hands. Lightning from my haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands. --- Antifar had made one major error though. He'd ignored the sign that had cautioned him about cruelbuffalos wearing turbams. There was a key in between them. <cite>Goats posted [p:925257238] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Hands. Lightning with my hands. Hands. Lightning with my hands. Lightning from my haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/27/19 1:50:01 PM #27:	Complete_Idi0t posted... What do you mean? Didn't you see the newest spider Man? Even that was better than anything DC has done, as terrible as it was. --- "I'm so embarrassed. I wish everyone else was dead." <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:925257243] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Complete_Idi0t posted...</cite> <quote>What do you mean? Didn't you see the newest spider Man?</quote> Even that was better than anything DC has done, as terrible as it was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/27/19 1:50:37 PM #28:	Evening_Dragon posted... Zodd3224 posted... Evening_Dragon posted... They keep trying for that edgelord shit, and it just doesn't work for people flying around in fancy costumes. It worked for The Dark Knight trilogy. The problem wasnt the tone. It was the man in charge (Snyder.) Batman's supposed to be the dark brooding edgelord. And even then, Joker stole the show. Also only the second movie was decent. Lol Batman Begins is fantastic. --- "I'm so embarrassed. I wish everyone else was dead." <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:925257268] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>They keep trying for that edgelord shit, and it just doesn't work for people flying around in fancy costumes.</quote> It worked for The Dark Knight trilogy. The problem wasnt the tone. It was the man in charge (Snyder.)</quote> Batman's supposed to be the dark brooding edgelord. And even then, Joker stole the show. Also only the second movie was decent.</quote> Lol Batman Begins is fantastic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 07/27/19 1:51:38 PM #29:	Deadpool_18 posted... Evening_Dragon posted... Zodd3224 posted... Evening_Dragon posted... They keep trying for that edgelord shit, and it just doesn't work for people flying around in fancy costumes. It worked for The Dark Knight trilogy. The problem wasnt the tone. It was the man in charge (Snyder.) Batman's supposed to be the dark brooding edgelord. And even then, Joker stole the show. Also only the second movie was decent. Lol Batman Begins is fantastic. Yeah, I like it more than The Dark Knight --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:925257314] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>They keep trying for that edgelord shit, and it just doesn't work for people flying around in fancy costumes.</quote> It worked for The Dark Knight trilogy. The problem wasnt the tone. It was the man in charge (Snyder.)</quote> Batman's supposed to be the dark brooding edgelord. And even then, Joker stole the show. Also only the second movie was decent.</quote> Lol Batman Begins is fantastic.</quote> Yeah, I like it more than The Dark Knight</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HBOSS 07/27/19 1:54:36 PM #30:	i thought they lost track of what made good movies and just threw money at their superheroes. lost what made batman and superman and soured their fans on them the result is you gain an audience willing to watch a movie about comics. i think the wrong people led dc-wb. they saw profit and made it but at the cost of dividing their audience. whys marvel pushing the comicbook movies the way they are. dc-wb was stuck when batman superman failed to establish the foundations of their future movies. marvel movies changed the industry. WB failed to make their cinematic universe. so what had to happen was start fresh with different heroes to earn the trust of their audience. so far, its working... wonder woman aquaman shazam are in the right direction for dc movies. --- You don't stop playing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop playing <cite>HBOSS posted [p:925257435] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>i thought they lost track of what made good movies and just threw money at their superheroes. lost what made batman and superman and soured their fans on them the result is you gain an audience willing to watch a movie about comics. i think the wrong people led dc-wb. they saw profit and made it but at the cost of dividing their audience. whys marvel pushing the comicbook movies the way they are. dc-wb was stuck when batman superman failed to establish the foundations of their future movies. marvel movies changed the industry. WB failed to make their cinematic universe. so what had to happen was start fresh with different heroes to earn the trust of their audience. so far, its working... wonder woman aquaman shazam are in the right direction for dc movies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 07/27/19 1:56:15 PM #31:	Evening_Dragon posted... Zodd3224 posted... Evening_Dragon posted... They keep trying for that edgelord shit, and it just doesn't work for people flying around in fancy costumes. It worked for The Dark Knight trilogy. The problem wasnt the tone. It was the man in charge (Snyder.) Batman's supposed to be the dark brooding edgelord. And even then, Joker stole the show. Also only the second movie was decent. I have full confidence Nolan could have made a successful serious take on Superman, Wonder Woman, etc. The only reason I believe Man of Steel wasnt a complete dumpster fire was because of his influence. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:925257497] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>They keep trying for that edgelord shit, and it just doesn't work for people flying around in fancy costumes.</quote> It worked for The Dark Knight trilogy. The problem wasnt the tone. It was the man in charge (Snyder.)</quote> Batman's supposed to be the dark brooding edgelord. And even then, Joker stole the show. Also only the second movie was decent.</quote> I have full confidence Nolan could have made a successful serious take on Superman, Wonder Woman, etc. The only reason I believe Man of Steel wasnt a complete dumpster fire was because of his influence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 07/27/19 1:58:02 PM #32:	Remember when George Fucking Miller was making a Justice League movie and nerds cried. Way to go --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:925257567] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Remember when George Fucking Miller was making a Justice League movie and nerds cried. Way to go</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
50Blessings 07/27/19 2:02:48 PM #33:	It isn't that you can't have a "serious take" on these heroes. It's just...at the end of the day you really shouldn't be leaving the theater feeling depressed. You shouldn't be going out of your way to be edgy and dark. --- How about I say what I want and you keep crying about it? https://i.imgtc.ws/DhGMvI6.jpg <cite>50Blessings posted [p:925257732] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>It isn't that you can't have a "serious take" on these heroes. It's just...at the end of the day you really shouldn't be leaving the theater feeling depressed. You shouldn't be going out of your way to be edgy and dark.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/27/19 2:07:46 PM #34:	Wonder Woman and Shazam were good, Aquaman was much better then expected. --- Feathered dinosaurs. I love feathered dinosaurs. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:925257914] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Wonder Woman and Shazam were good, Aquaman was much better then expected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheoryzC 07/27/19 2:16:21 PM #35:	50Blessings posted... It isn't that you can't have a "serious take" on these heroes. It's just...at the end of the day you really shouldn't be leaving the theater feeling depressed. You shouldn't be going out of your way to be edgy and dark. They figured this out after Wonder Woman which is why that, Aquaman and Shazam were so successful --- This is where my sigs suppose to be. <cite>TheoryzC posted [p:925258215] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote>It isn't that you can't have a "serious take" on these heroes. It's just...at the end of the day you really shouldn't be leaving the theater feeling depressed. You shouldn't be going out of your way to be edgy and dark.</quote> They figured this out after Wonder Woman which is why that, Aquaman and Shazam were so successful</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 07/27/19 2:32:37 PM #36:	50Blessings posted... It isn't that you can't have a "serious take" on these heroes. It's just...at the end of the day you really shouldn't be leaving the theater feeling depressed. You shouldn't be going out of your way to be edgy and dark. this <cite>Reis posted [p:925258760] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote>It isn't that you can't have a "serious take" on these heroes. It's just...at the end of the day you really shouldn't be leaving the theater feeling depressed. You shouldn't be going out of your way to be edgy and dark.</quote> this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
au_gold 07/27/19 2:34:45 PM #37:	Shazam was awesome. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. <cite>au_gold posted [p:925258836] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Shazam was awesome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/27/19 2:36:23 PM #38:	Lego Batman is great. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:925258904] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Lego Batman is great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Total_Lost2 07/27/19 2:39:47 PM #39:	Studio interference --- Just when you think you see a silver lining, God makes you blind....the ***** Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici <cite>Total_Lost2 posted [p:925259043] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Studio interference</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 07/27/19 2:41:01 PM #40:	ledbowman posted... Man of Steel is better than most MCU movies. @Complete_Idi0t true identity is finally revealed.. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. Vicious_Dios Original - https://i.imgtc.ws/Zl0aw6F.png <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:925259086] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>Man of Steel is better than most MCU movies.</quote> @Complete_Idi0t true identity is finally revealed..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 07/27/19 3:39:19 PM #41:	I certainly disagree with Marvel's worst being better than DC's best. I think DC would have to include a romance between a person and a trashcan to do a worse relationship than Hulk x Black Widow. (No, seriously. I'm not letting that go.) The problem with DC is that they want to be bleak and that's a trend which has passed. In the 2000s, in the post-9/11 world, people gravitated toward negativity and nightmare scenarios. All hope was lost. People were divided up between the villainous, the antiheroic, and the victimized. And things were never going to be good again. Then the economy gradually recovered -- it's still not where it should be -- and edgy new takes lost their flare. But for every trend, there's someone who sees it as a way of life. We've all seen the kid who outgrew their goth phase. We've all seen the bearded, tatted thirty-something wearing black shirts and dyeing his hair darker than midnight. That's DC. What was a trend for some is a lifestyle for them. If bright and happy were the song of the day, they'd still be pushing for bleakness. Today is the age of witty relatable characters. Our default protagonists are the Chris Pratts and Emma Stones of the world. It wouldn't fit Batman, but maybe it would make sense for Robin or Batgirl to counterbalance his bitterness with a bit of sharp wit or irreverent behavior. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:925261237] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>I certainly disagree with Marvel's worst being better than DC's best. I think DC would have to include a romance between a person and a trashcan to do a worse relationship than Hulk x Black Widow. (No, seriously. I'm not letting that go.) The problem with DC is that they want to be bleak and that's a trend which has passed. In the 2000s, in the post-9/11 world, people gravitated toward negativity and nightmare scenarios. All hope was lost. People were divided up between the villainous, the antiheroic, and the victimized. And things were never going to be good again. Then the economy gradually recovered -- it's still not where it should be -- and edgy new takes lost their flare. But for every trend, there's someone who sees it as a way of life. We've all seen the kid who outgrew their goth phase. We've all seen the bearded, tatted thirty-something wearing black shirts and dyeing his hair darker than midnight. That's DC. What was a trend for some is a lifestyle for them. If bright and happy were the song of the day, they'd still be pushing for bleakness. Today is the age of witty relatable characters. Our default protagonists are the Chris Pratts and Emma Stones of the world. It wouldn't fit Batman, but maybe it would make sense for Robin or Batgirl to counterbalance his bitterness with a bit of sharp wit or irreverent behavior.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 07/27/19 3:44:39 PM #42:	Not every comic property has to be full of one liners and never ending jokes tho. It's fine to make a more thoughtful comic book movie. You just need the right people to do it. I'm over the Marvel formula personally. The only type of comic adaptations on screen I am interested in these days are ones that are unique like Legion, Swamp Thing, the upcoming HBO The Watchmen show, Sandman, etc. Stuff like that. I prefer those types to what MCU is continuing to pump out. I love the MCU but I've had enough of that kind of comic book movie now. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:925261454] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Not every comic property has to be full of one liners and never ending jokes tho. It's fine to make a more thoughtful comic book movie. You just need the right people to do it. I'm over the Marvel formula personally. The only type of comic adaptations on screen I am interested in these days are ones that are unique like Legion, Swamp Thing, the upcoming HBO The Watchmen show, Sandman, etc. Stuff like that. I prefer those types to what MCU is continuing to pump out. I love the MCU but I've had enough of that kind of comic book movie now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 07/27/19 3:44:41 PM #43:	Skye Reynolds posted... Today is the age of witty relatable characters. Our default protagonists are the Chris Pratts and Emma Stones of the world. It wouldn't fit Batman, but maybe it would make sense for Robin or Batgirl to counterbalance his bitterness with a bit of sharp wit or irreverent behavior. Cringe --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:925261456] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Today is the age of witty relatable characters. Our default protagonists are the Chris Pratts and Emma Stones of the world. It wouldn't fit Batman, but maybe it would make sense for Robin or Batgirl to counterbalance his bitterness with a bit of sharp wit or irreverent behavior. </quote> Cringe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 07/27/19 3:46:44 PM #44:	it's all about execution. logan was bleak af and was still a masterpiece. DC just sucks when it comes to hiring directors and writers. --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg https://imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:925261530] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>it's all about execution. logan was bleak af and was still a masterpiece. DC just sucks when it comes to hiring directors and writers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 07/27/19 3:54:53 PM #45:	Zodd3224 posted... Not every comic property has to be full of one liners and never ending jokes tho. It's fine to make a more thoughtful comic book movie. You just need the right people to do it. Thoughtful is the key word. They've been doing what Alan Moore copycats do and that's go for the edge without the art. It's one thing to provide a film that's dark or bleak if it has meaning. It's another to produce a 6/10 film that's adhering to yesterday's trends. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:925261849] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Not every comic property has to be full of one liners and never ending jokes tho. It's fine to make a more thoughtful comic book movie. You just need the right people to do it.</quote> Thoughtful is the key word. They've been doing what Alan Moore copycats do and that's go for the edge without the art. It's one thing to provide a film that's dark or bleak if it has meaning. It's another to produce a 6/10 film that's adhering to yesterday's trends.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Popcorn_Fairy 07/27/19 4:05:36 PM #46:	Shazam is way better than most Marvel movies. Shazam is so goddamn good. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/agwRkmQ.gif <cite>Popcorn_Fairy posted [p:925262233] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Shazam is way better than most Marvel movies. Shazam is so goddamn good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 07/27/19 4:05:42 PM #47:	Skye Reynolds posted... Zodd3224 posted... Not every comic property has to be full of one liners and never ending jokes tho. It's fine to make a more thoughtful comic book movie. You just need the right people to do it. Thoughtful is the key word. They've been doing what Alan Moore copycats do and that's go for the edge without the art. It's one thing to provide a film that's dark or bleak if it has meaning. It's another to produce a 6/10 film that's adhering to yesterday's trends. damn bro you've been on a roll with good opinions lately <cite>Reis posted [p:925262241] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Not every comic property has to be full of one liners and never ending jokes tho. It's fine to make a more thoughtful comic book movie. You just need the right people to do it.</quote> Thoughtful is the key word. They've been doing what Alan Moore copycats do and that's go for the edge without the art. It's one thing to provide a film that's dark or bleak if it has meaning. It's another to produce a 6/10 film that's adhering to yesterday's trends.</quote> damn bro you've been on a roll with good opinions lately</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 07/27/19 4:07:52 PM #48:	the nolan batman trilogy was better than any marvel movies but since then marvel has consistently gotten better while dc has been consistently awful --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:925262313] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>the nolan batman trilogy was better than any marvel movies but since then marvel has consistently gotten better while dc has been consistently awful</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/27/19 8:28:59 PM #49:	Skye Reynolds posted... I certainly disagree with Marvel's worst being better than DC's best. I think DC would have to include a romance between a person and a trashcan to do a worse relationship than Hulk x Black Widow. (No, seriously. I'm not letting that go.) The problem with DC is that they want to be bleak and that's a trend which has passed. In the 2000s, in the post-9/11 world, people gravitated toward negativity and nightmare scenarios. All hope was lost. People were divided up between the villainous, the antiheroic, and the victimized. And things were never going to be good again. Then the economy gradually recovered -- it's still not where it should be -- and edgy new takes lost their flare. But for every trend, there's someone who sees it as a way of life. We've all seen the kid who outgrew their goth phase. We've all seen the bearded, tatted thirty-something wearing black shirts and dyeing his hair darker than midnight. That's DC. What was a trend for some is a lifestyle for them. If bright and happy were the song of the day, they'd still be pushing for bleakness. Today is the age of witty relatable characters. Our default protagonists are the Chris Pratts and Emma Stones of the world. It wouldn't fit Batman, but maybe it would make sense for Robin or Batgirl to counterbalance his bitterness with a bit of sharp wit or irreverent behavior. I dont see what 9/11 has to do with anything. --- "I'm so embarrassed. I wish everyone else was dead." <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:925271036] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>I certainly disagree with Marvel's worst being better than DC's best. I think DC would have to include a romance between a person and a trashcan to do a worse relationship than Hulk x Black Widow. (No, seriously. I'm not letting that go.) The problem with DC is that they want to be bleak and that's a trend which has passed. In the 2000s, in the post-9/11 world, people gravitated toward negativity and nightmare scenarios. All hope was lost. People were divided up between the villainous, the antiheroic, and the victimized. And things were never going to be good again. Then the economy gradually recovered -- it's still not where it should be -- and edgy new takes lost their flare. But for every trend, there's someone who sees it as a way of life. We've all seen the kid who outgrew their goth phase. We've all seen the bearded, tatted thirty-something wearing black shirts and dyeing his hair darker than midnight. That's DC. What was a trend for some is a lifestyle for them. If bright and happy were the song of the day, they'd still be pushing for bleakness. Today is the age of witty relatable characters. Our default protagonists are the Chris Pratts and Emma Stones of the world. It wouldn't fit Batman, but maybe it would make sense for Robin or Batgirl to counterbalance his bitterness with a bit of sharp wit or irreverent behavior.</quote> I dont see what 9/11 has to do with anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/27/19 8:30:26 PM #50:	Zodd3224 posted... Not every comic property has to be full of one liners and never ending jokes tho. It's fine to make a more thoughtful comic book movie. You just need the right people to do it. I'm over the Marvel formula personally. The only type of comic adaptations on screen I am interested in these days are ones that are unique like Legion, Swamp Thing, the upcoming HBO The Watchmen show, Sandman, etc. Stuff like that. I prefer those types to what MCU is continuing to pump out. I love the MCU but I've had enough of that kind of comic book movie now. Im with you. Im so sick of any serious tones or themes being ruined with cheap comic relief like Ned and Luis. --- "I'm so embarrassed. I wish everyone else was dead." <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:925271077] in Why can... [t:77893960]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Not every comic property has to be full of one liners and never ending jokes tho. It's fine to make a more thoughtful comic book movie. You just need the right people to do it. I'm over the Marvel formula personally. The only type of comic adaptations on screen I am interested in these days are ones that are unique like Legion, Swamp Thing, the upcoming HBO The Watchmen show, Sandman, etc. Stuff like that. I prefer those types to what MCU is continuing to pump out. I love the MCU but I've had enough of that kind of comic book movie now.</quote> Im with you. Im so sick of any serious tones or themes being ruined with cheap comic relief like Ned and Luis.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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