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LanHikari10
07/07/19 2:08:30 AM
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Playing quickplay solo is miserable. So many games where 4-5 DPS are picked. It's just not fun.
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gunplagirl
07/07/19 2:12:18 AM
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In theory it'll add stability, and make way for a rework of Brig. In reality... Who's ready for flank hog, dive and demeched dva, dps Moira, battle mercy, double sniper comps every match?

Also, rip hamster+3dps+2 healers/ hamster+4 dps+healer comps, when they worked it was amazing since you could snowball the enemy team with just a single ult if you use the right cooldown to make sure the enemies lost the right units.
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LanHikari10
07/07/19 2:20:05 AM
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I don't really see anything that you describe when I solo queue. Just constant DPS.
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kingdrake2
07/07/19 2:20:35 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
In theory it'll add stability, and make way for a rework of Brig. In reality... Who's ready for flank hog, dive and demeched dva, dps Moira, battle mercy, double sniper comps every match?

Also, rip hamster+3dps+2 healers/ hamster+4 dps+healer comps, when they worked it was amazing since you could snowball the enemy team with just a single ult if you use the right cooldown to make sure the enemies lost the right units.

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Engineer_Gamer
07/07/19 2:20:43 AM
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i'm 100% sure it won't be applied to quickplay and like 90% sure it won't even be applied to competitive, it's just a bandage for goats in OWL
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Meganekko
07/07/19 2:22:23 AM
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The best way to fix Overwatch is to delete roles, redesign everyone so it doesn't matter what combinations of heroes you have and make it purely skill based.
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gunplagirl
07/07/19 2:23:12 AM
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Meganekko posted...
The best way to fix Overwatch is to delete roles, redesign everyone so it doesn't matter what combinations of heroes you have and make it purely skill based.

So the full TF2 job?
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ButteryMales
07/07/19 2:23:59 AM
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Meganekko posted...
The best way to fix Overwatch is to delete roles, redesign everyone so it doesn't matter what combinations of heroes you have and make it purely skill based.

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Irony
07/07/19 2:24:42 AM
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Meganekko posted...
The best way to fix Overwatch is to delete roles, redesign everyone so it doesn't matter what combinations of heroes you have and make it purely skill based.

Lmao
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Engineer_Gamer
07/07/19 2:25:06 AM
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LanHikari10 posted...
I don't really see anything that you describe when I solo queue. Just constant DPS.

whats ur SR lmao
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Illuminoius
07/07/19 2:25:07 AM
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i find it weird that people constantly bitch about dpses everywhere
i've always gotten a variety of characters in quick play, including the obsessive healer one-tricks and overzealous winstons
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Meganekko
07/07/19 2:25:39 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
So the full TF2 job?

What?

There is no skill in TF2
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Engineer_Gamer
07/07/19 2:25:55 AM
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the real cancer of quickplay is the amount of people who wont shoot an enemy torb turret even if you offered them $100
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LanHikari10
07/07/19 2:26:59 AM
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Engineer_Gamer posted...
LanHikari10 posted...
I don't really see anything that you describe when I solo queue. Just constant DPS.

whats ur SR lmao

Dunno, I don't play comp.
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Irony
07/07/19 2:27:56 AM
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If people think QP is cancerous comp is way worse. Haven't played comp since like season 4 and I heard it's way worse now.
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gunplagirl
07/07/19 2:42:05 AM
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Irony posted...
If people think QP is cancerous comp is way worse. Haven't played comp since like season 4 and I heard it's way worse now.


Top 3 examples of why it's cancer:

1) "I have all golds you guys suck" screamed the Reaper who wraith formed through the choke point and in front of the enemy bastion 2 times in the first minute on attack. You know, meaning that even if they have gold damage (as a high burst damage dps character), they died so much that the enemies constantly got free ultimates from him because he never secured a kill (yay enemy healer ult) and he fed by dying (yay enemy tank/ dps ult) and his ultimates require a bit of assistance to initiate or clean up a fight, if used after his teammates die it won't actually secure the objective.

2) "DPS aren't getting kills" screamed the Rein/ Orisa who never pushed up on attack and on both attack and defense would flee the moment they took more than 50 damage, UNLESS they had a pocket Mercy. Tanks have two roles, first is to make space for dps (shields, body blocking, ultimates and cooldowns that displace or stick enemies in a single place) and the second role of a tank is to help dps finish off picks/ give dps weakened targets to focus.

3) "It's just a game, why take it so seriously" screamed the guy who went Widow with a 7% win rate all season and an average of <2000 enemy damage/10 minutes, who then swaps to Mei ice wall your team on control maps when the enemy team is at 80% or more.
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UnholyMudcrab
07/07/19 5:59:25 AM
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I'm not sure it'll come to ranked at the same time it comes to OWL, since there would need to be a role queue with it. We might have a while longer to wait.
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gunplagirl
07/07/19 8:15:32 AM
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It definitely wouldn't kick in until next season even if it hits the OWL before that time. Of course, the best way to handle it would be an actual MMR reset, or at least an "anything from before the last season you finished placements in is wiped" situation. Otherwise, we will end up with DPS and healer one tricks who have all of the roles initially rank at the same amount when that's clearly not the case.
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myzz7
07/07/19 8:24:41 AM
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Was this announced, the 2-2-2? It's been awhile since i followed up on Overwatch

Also I'm leaning towards them just getting out Overwatch 2 with major rebalance overhaul
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Error1355
07/07/19 8:38:23 AM
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Is OWL still just goats constantly?
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sauceje
07/07/19 8:46:11 AM
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Highwind07 posted...
But then again a role like "DPS" in the damage category has a diverse meaning with everything from Soldier to Torb to Widow. IMO we need a fourth "specialist" role for characters that don't fit the norm.

If only there were a role for characters that are specialized in protecting an area, that can hold the fort better than others... I dunno, maybe something like a "defense" role?
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gunplagirl
07/07/19 8:50:39 AM
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Error1355 posted...
Is OWL still just goats constantly?

Sombra goats since EMP is usually a fight winner when you're running goats. More importantly, sombra ult is one of the fastest to charge at the pro level because of the damage output they can manage.
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Romulox28
07/07/19 8:55:43 AM
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what overwatch really needs to do is completely rework all their maps to not make them all so chokepoint-heavy. at least at the low (ranked) lvl i played at, every match in overwatch eventually devolves into deathball vs deathball and that isnt very fun.

in another comp game like LoL or Dota 2 or whatever you have the jungle, you can split push, etc so matches are much more dynamic but in overwatch it feels like every round is "can we stop this deathball at the chokepoint or not". not fun as a competitive game, not fun as a solo queue game, etc. kind of a shame because i love overwatch conceptually
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thronedfire2
07/07/19 9:00:10 AM
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Goats is pretty much dead in OWL after all the nerfs outside of the couple top teams who are really good at 3/3 and not good with dps comps. The teams running dps comps especially with sombra have been giving the 3/3s a lot of trouble
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UnholyMudcrab
07/07/19 1:53:03 PM
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myzz7 posted...
Was this announced, the 2-2-2? It's been awhile since i followed up on Overwatch

Also I'm leaning towards them just getting out Overwatch 2 with major rebalance overhaul

There hasn't been an official announcement, but an OWL player who retired recently said that he knew it was being introduced in the near future
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gunplagirl
07/07/19 1:55:19 PM
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Highwind07 posted...
sauceje posted...
Highwind07 posted...
But then again a role like "DPS" in the damage category has a diverse meaning with everything from Soldier to Torb to Widow. IMO we need a fourth "specialist" role for characters that don't fit the norm.

If only there were a role for characters that are specialized in protecting an area, that can hold the fort better than others... I dunno, maybe something like a "defense" role?


I know that there was once a defense role but that didnt encompass the characters like Sombra, Mei, and Junkrat that didn't strictly fill in their roles.


Mei is great at locking down an area
Junkrat, too, especially when his shots would linger
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TheBiggerWiggle
07/07/19 2:33:32 PM
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2-2-2 will ruin the damn game, and I say this as someone who primarily plays healer.
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ZMythos
07/07/19 3:03:41 PM
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Meganekko posted...

What?

There is no skill in TF2

Man you have no clue what you're talking about lol
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