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IllegalAlien posted...

"PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor (or simply PHP) is a general-purpose programming language originally designed for web development. It was originally created by Rasmus Lerdorf in 1994; the PHP reference implementation is now produced by The PHP Group."

"JavaScript, often abbreviated as JS, is a high-level, interpreted programming language that conforms to the ECMAScript specification. JavaScript has curly-bracket syntax, dynamic typing, prototype-based object-orientation, and first-class functions."

You'd realllllllly need to be grasping at some semantic straws to argue that PHP or JS are not programming languages.

I skimmed his post, saw "java is an interpreted programming language" and assumed that was the argument he was making. I didnt read his whole post sorry. If he was arguing the contrary then sorry.
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Really shocked at the lack of JavaScript developers on CE
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Rob Cesternino posted...

Really shocked at the lack of JavaScript developers on CE

The cool shit is hidden behind the language mostly just being used for DOM manipulation.
Most people just think of it as form validation and popups and those annoying videos floating down the right side of everything now, but it's actually beefy enough to emulate NES games at a decent speed nowadays.

https://jsnes.org/

Rob Cesternino posted...

Really shocked at the lack of JavaScript developers on CE

I mean just about the only thing as bad as PHP is node.js so it doesn't really surprise me to see that nobody here is a JS primary dev.
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Key posted...

I did find it odd the high percentage of C++ favorites but I assumed it mostly had to do with some of them not being actual programmers and instead people who just tried a little programming and being told to start with c++. As for awhile everywhere you went online you'd have people recommended it because it was the language for "real programmers."

You still get that frequently though. C++ is still worshiped by new grads.

Rob Cesternino posted...

Really shocked at the lack of JavaScript developers on CE

I am too. On some programming subreddits they're pretty much all I see.
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Some interesting discussion here. I'm not really sure I agree with DevsBro's definition of a program or a programming language.

Another thing I saw was someone equating scripting languages with being interpreted. I have a bit of an objection to that. Most often it's the case that a language is designed for scripting, and that typically includes an interpreter since it's more convenient. However, in my view, any language can be a scripting language, technically speaking. It's more about how you use it. If you're writing scripts, it's scripting. Converesely, many traditional scripting languages are quite powerful and can be used for a lot more than just scripting.
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i dont like nerdy stuff so i dont bother to learn any programming language

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Key posted...

That's a C test not a C++ test. And I wouldnt call it a good measure on actual ability to write in the language.

Is vanilla C even really used much anymore?

It still has some uses especially for low level stuff. Most OS' are written in C. And so are most interpreters. The standard python interpreter is actually called cpython and is written in C. I actually had a old roommate who pretty much exclusively used C

It's also a common choice for libraries since every FFI can use it.

Or at least, if there's an FFI that can't, it's a waste of an FFI.
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I use js plenty, angular is very fun, but it's far from my favorite or my primary.
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Key posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Key posted...

That's a C test not a C++ test. And I wouldnt call it a good measure on actual ability to write in the language.

Is vanilla C even really used much anymore?

It still has some uses especially for low level stuff. Most OS' are written in C. And so are most interpreters. The standard python interpreter is actually called cpython and is written in C. I actually had a old roommate who pretty much exclusively used C

So many of the security vulnerabilities that decimate infrastructures could be prevented if we just stopped using C. It sucks. Stop it.
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Java and brain fuck.
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Neoconkers posted...

Key posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Key posted...

That's a C test not a C++ test. And I wouldnt call it a good measure on actual ability to write in the language.

Is vanilla C even really used much anymore?

It still has some uses especially for low level stuff. Most OS' are written in C. And so are most interpreters. The standard python interpreter is actually called cpython and is written in C. I actually had a old roommate who pretty much exclusively used C

So many of the security vulnerabilities that decimate infrastructures could be prevented if we just stopped using C. It sucks. Stop it.

To be fair to the language, there are tons of compilers that write perfectly safe C code. :P But yeah, a lot of these kinds of vulnerabilities are protected against automatically or not applicable in more modern languages.
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DevsBro posted...

To be fair to the language, there are tons of compilers that write perfectly safe C code

that's not being fair to the language, that's being fair to the compilers we had to write because the language is a use-after-free magnet that makes stupid buffers
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Neoconkers posted...

DevsBro posted...

To be fair to the language, there are tons of compilers that write perfectly safe C code

that's not being fair to the language, that's being fair to the compilers we had to write because the language is a use-after-free magnet that makes stupid buffers

That was more a joke than anything.
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I'm surprised no one's popped in yet to say that all our jobs are going to be taken by AI or outsourced.
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TheAnthraxBunny posted...

I'm surprised no one's popped in yet to say that all our jobs are going to be taken by AI or outsourced.

they'll program a computer to program the computers and you'll be jobless
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