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Solid Snake07
05/25/19 4:22:55 PM
#101:


ASithLord7 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
Regardless of what you think about her or that particular video, the precedent here should bother you.

If it doesnt I'm highly suspect of your foresight and critical thinking

I should be worried that GameFAQs deletes posts. Literally turning the US into 1984


Solid Snake07 posted...
You're comparing a small message board in the corner of the internet and the largest video media sharing platform on earth as equal platforms. Surely you see the problem with that right?

I mean sure you can make the arguement that speech shouldnt be limited here, but a vast majority of people dont care.

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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 4:28:22 PM
#102:


Rebel_Patriot posted...
Its amazing how many people are willing to allow corporations to dictate what information they have access to and decide for them what is right or wrong. Welcome to 1984.

YouTube isn't preventing her from sharing the documentary, she is free to find another video sharing service.
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Tmaster148
05/25/19 4:31:43 PM
#103:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Rebel_Patriot posted...
Its amazing how many people are willing to allow corporations to dictate what information they have access to and decide for them what is right or wrong. Welcome to 1984.

YouTube isn't preventing her from sharing the documentary, she is free to find another video sharing service.


or even start her own.
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Zikten
05/25/19 4:34:06 PM
#104:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Rebel_Patriot posted...
Its amazing how many people are willing to allow corporations to dictate what information they have access to and decide for them what is right or wrong. Welcome to 1984.

YouTube isn't preventing her from sharing the documentary, she is free to find another video sharing service.

They will all do the same thing as YouTube.
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Tyranthraxus
05/25/19 4:34:23 PM
#105:


thanks-gohan posted...
one of the issues with debating nazis live is that it gives them an opportunity to frame the debate on their own terms.


Please find me a nazi who can convince rationally minded people killing jews is a good idea. No amount of framing would ever get that point across as a win.

Hitler wasn't elected on a "kill the Jews" platform. That didn't come into swing until he was already in office for several years.

At first the only thing you had to do was put a sign outside your business to let people know it was Jewish-owned.
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Zikten
05/25/19 4:35:12 PM
#106:


Anyway I must be confused because the post in this topic that described her actual video sounds like it is pro refugee. But that doesn't make any sense. Unless YouTube didn't even bother to look at the video before they took it down
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 4:49:03 PM
#108:


Zikten posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Rebel_Patriot posted...
Its amazing how many people are willing to allow corporations to dictate what information they have access to and decide for them what is right or wrong. Welcome to 1984.

YouTube isn't preventing her from sharing the documentary, she is free to find another video sharing service.

They will all do the same thing as YouTube.

So then maybe she should fund and start her own platform.
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Tyranthraxus
05/25/19 4:52:28 PM
#109:


thanks-gohan posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
thanks-gohan posted...
one of the issues with debating nazis live is that it gives them an opportunity to frame the debate on their own terms.


Please find me a nazi who can convince rationally minded people killing jews is a good idea. No amount of framing would ever get that point across as a win.

Hitler wasn't elected on a "kill the Jews" platform. That didn't come into swing until he was already in office for several years.

At first the only thing you had to do was put a sign outside your business to let people know it was Jewish-owned.


Are you really comparing 1930s Germany to 2010s America?

Yes.

Why wouldn't I?
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Vertania
05/25/19 4:52:44 PM
#110:


Zikten posted...
Anyway I must be confused because the post in this topic that described her actual video sounds like it is pro refugee. But that doesn't make any sense. Unless YouTube didn't even bother to look at the video before they took it down

This.
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Zikten
05/25/19 4:54:07 PM
#111:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Zikten posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Rebel_Patriot posted...
Its amazing how many people are willing to allow corporations to dictate what information they have access to and decide for them what is right or wrong. Welcome to 1984.

YouTube isn't preventing her from sharing the documentary, she is free to find another video sharing service.

They will all do the same thing as YouTube.

So then maybe she should fund and start her own platform.

But why is YouTube mad at a pro refugee video anyway?
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Malfunction
05/25/19 4:55:44 PM
#113:


Zikten posted...
pro refugee video

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Zikten
05/25/19 4:57:47 PM
#114:


deupd_u posted...
I feel I should clarify the documentary: it's about migration in Europe, the sort of camps these people end up in, the NGOs laundering money and coaching people to say whatever they need to say to officials, and predatory "coyote" traffickers..


This makes it sound like it's on the side of the refugees.
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Tyranthraxus
05/25/19 4:58:53 PM
#115:


thanks-gohan posted...
Because you're comparing two totally different social climates. I'd like to think we grew smarter and morally since then.

We did and then people elected Trump so now we're back to square 1.
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Zikten
05/25/19 5:08:59 PM
#118:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ_fz9EW5Iw" data-time="


she put it back up

I just kinda skipped around the entire Doc and tried to see differetn parts and see what's being said. it seems to be mostly criticizing the Coyotes for victimizing both the refugees and the locals. like one farmer said Coyotes wanted to use his farm for some reason. and they pulled guns on him and said they would kill him unless he handed over the deed to his farm and abandoned it

so unless youtube loves Coyotes I don't get why this was censored
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Tyranthraxus
05/25/19 5:09:56 PM
#119:


thanks-gohan posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
thanks-gohan posted...
Because you're comparing two totally different social climates. I'd like to think we grew smarter and morally since then.

We did and then people elected Trump so now we're back to square 1.


Lmfao you legitimately are comparing Trump to Hitler

Jesus christ


https://www.newsweek.com/im-holocaust-survivor-trumps-america-feels-germany-nazis-took-over-876965
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Malfunction
05/25/19 5:10:02 PM
#120:


Lauren southern is a fascist
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Zikten
05/25/19 5:11:16 PM
#121:


Malfunction posted...
Lauren southern is a fascist

did you bother to look at the video at all? do you even know what it's about?

Zikten posted...

I just kinda skipped around the entire Doc and tried to see differetn parts and see what's being said. it seems to be mostly criticizing the Coyotes for victimizing both the refugees and the locals. like one farmer said Coyotes wanted to use his farm for some reason. and they pulled guns on him and said they would kill him unless he handed over the deed to his farm and abandoned it
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ASithLord7
05/25/19 5:11:21 PM
#122:


MakoReizei posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Nazis have gotten good obfuscating their true intentions in arguments specifically because their ideas get completely destroyed by any logical or moral argument. So they use palatable words, frame facts in certain ways, tickle emotions, and adopt innocuous symbols to make themselves more sympathetic.


Idk why people keep talking about Nazis. This topic is about Lauren Southern, and she isnt a racist or a Nazi.

anyone who disagrees with me is a nazi

White supremacists who are friends with Richard Spencer and espouse white genocide conspiracy theories are Nazis
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LightningAce11
05/25/19 5:20:01 PM
#124:


Isn't she that person who talks out of her ass all the time and is always fact checked and destroyed?
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Zikten
05/25/19 5:22:42 PM
#125:


LightningAce11 posted...
Isn't she that person who talks out of her ass all the time and is always fact checked and destroyed?

I don't know. but this video is not what the people think it is. everyone is saying her video should be shut down and nobody actually bothered to watch it. it's about Coyotes hurting both refugees and local Europeans. in what insane world is that an offensive thing to discuss? only Coyotes should be upset with this video
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Big_Nabendu
05/25/19 5:27:10 PM
#126:


Amazing
A lot of liberals in this topic
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IfGodCouldDie
05/25/19 5:28:40 PM
#127:


Zikten posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Zikten posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Rebel_Patriot posted...
Its amazing how many people are willing to allow corporations to dictate what information they have access to and decide for them what is right or wrong. Welcome to 1984.

YouTube isn't preventing her from sharing the documentary, she is free to find another video sharing service.

They will all do the same thing as YouTube.

So then maybe she should fund and start her own platform.

But why is YouTube mad at a pro refugee video anyway?

You'd have to ask them.
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Zikten
05/25/19 5:28:48 PM
#128:


Big_Nabendu posted...
Amazing
A lot of liberals in this topic

nobody seems to want to look at the video or even read my review of it. I guess they just really want to believe their pre conceived notion of what the video is about. I am so confused about this. I think someone at youtube just noticed she uploaded something and auto censored it without even watching it
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Tyranthraxus
05/25/19 5:31:22 PM
#129:


thanks-gohan posted...
You do realize this shit argument works both ways right?

It works both ways because the comparison is valid.

Otherwise it wouldn't work at all.
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Anteaterking
05/25/19 5:32:56 PM
#130:


Solid Snake07 posted...
Regardless of what you think about her or that particular video, the precedent here should bother you.


This isn't the first time a video has been removed from Youtube. They have thousands of precedents for removing videos.
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karlpilkington4
05/25/19 5:44:46 PM
#133:


Zikten posted...
Big_Nabendu posted...
Amazing
A lot of liberals in this topic

nobody seems to want to look at the video or even read my review of it. I guess they just really want to believe their pre conceived notion of what the video is about. I am so confused about this. I think someone at youtube just noticed she uploaded something and auto censored it without even watching it


I read it, thank you for adding actual intelligence to this topic.
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karlpilkington4
05/25/19 5:46:00 PM
#134:


M_Live posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Probably for the best.


Best for who? People who can't deal with different viewpoints?

Definitely viewpoints and wrong/racist/shit ones are two different things. If I like red and you like blue, we have a difference of opinions. If I think gay people are fine and you hate them, you're a piece of shit


When has Lauren Southern ever said this or anything along those lines?
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Sativa_Rose
05/25/19 5:46:40 PM
#135:


Weird, it was up on youtube last night. I watched like 2 minutes of it before I got bored.
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Tyranthraxus
05/25/19 6:36:44 PM
#136:


thanks-gohan posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
thanks-gohan posted...
You do realize this shit argument works both ways right?

It works both ways because the comparison is valid.

Otherwise it wouldn't work at all.


Okay, you're now tagged.

Nah it's cool. You're getting ignored. Got no more patience for alt right Trump shills.
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glitteringfairy
05/25/19 6:39:48 PM
#137:


"Censorship is ok as long as I agree with it" - this topic
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tennisdude818
05/25/19 7:40:37 PM
#139:


Book burning leftists need to realize that censorship is only a short term defense against opinions that you dont like. At some point you are going to need to have arguments.
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karlpilkington4
05/25/19 8:03:37 PM
#140:


tennisdude818 posted...
Book burning leftists need to realize that censorship is only a short term defense against opinions that you dont like. At some point you are going to need to have arguments.


Yes, and something more than just "You're a Nazi".
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BignutzisBack
05/25/19 8:07:24 PM
#141:


karlpilkington4 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Probably for the best.


Best for who? People who can't deal with different viewpoints?


Yep, fragile people love this sort of thing
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averagejoel
05/26/19 7:38:40 AM
#142:


TomNook20 posted...
Milo was given two huge platforms to speak, and when people heard what he had to say no one wanted anything to do with him. Bad choice for an example.

that's not true. he started falling off the map when he was banned from twitter
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PrincessCadance
05/26/19 7:40:29 AM
#143:


What is it about?
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karlpilkington4
05/26/19 7:43:33 AM
#144:


PrincessCadance posted...
What is it about?


The border crisis in Europe
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inloveanddeath0
05/26/19 7:44:17 AM
#145:


I wanted to borderlands
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averagejoel
05/26/19 7:47:53 AM
#146:


thanks-gohan posted...
Because you're comparing two totally different social climates. I'd like to think we grew smarter and morally since then.

we didn't. the political climate now is very similar to what happened then. the US is way more racist now than Germany was 100 years ago, and it has a much more powerful military. anyone saying that it couldn't happen again is either ignorant or lying

the nazis didn't just go away. Hitler had many supporters in the US. many nazis came to the US. many of them worked in NASA or the CIA. many nazis had kids.
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deupd_u
05/26/19 9:16:43 AM
#147:


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CloudChaser462
05/26/19 9:20:39 AM
#148:


karlpilkington4 posted...
PrincessCadance posted...
What is it about?


The border crisis in Europe


Its sad that certain types still want to censor this.
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averagejoel
05/26/19 9:32:15 AM
#149:


CloudChaser462 posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
PrincessCadance posted...
What is it about?


The border crisis in Europe


Its sad that certain types still want to censor this.

the obvious solution is to abolish all borders
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The Great Muta 22
05/26/19 9:38:54 AM
#150:


Does the documentary talk about the causes of the refugee crisis and how some of accountability that falls on the European nations and the US? Or that maybe we should stop bombing the shit out of these nations while telling its citizens they have to stay there and take it?
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
05/26/19 9:39:38 AM
#151:


I love all the comments about people only hearing about it due to YouTube deleting it. Good work
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