Current Events > Is being mad at GoT just a meme at this point? That ep was fantastic. (SPOILERS)

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I'm not gonna sit here and say eps 3 (all the ex machinas, shitty lightning) and 4 (killed the second dragon for no reason) were great by any means

But the thread now is everyone literally melting down over a great episode

Why is everyone so mad?
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You cant please everyone.

That was really good, and I've been down on it this season
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It was dumb.

Dany decided to kill innocent civilians for literally no reason.
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Is being mad at people being mad at GoT just a meme at this point?
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karlpilkington4 posted...

It was dumb.

Dany decided to kill innocent civilians for literally no reason.

7.5 seasons of people telling you the Targaryens are crazy is "literally no reason?"
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Remember when Arya killed the Night King? All her training leading up to that moment to be a badass killer reverts back to a scared girl who can barely stand up.

"Fantastic"
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I want to hear what you have to say about Jamie. All that character development for nothing, and what a boring way to finish him.

Strider102 posted...

Remember when Arya killed the Night King? All her training leading up to that moment to be a badass killer reverts back to a scared girl who can barely stand up.

"Fantastic"

Hmm yes a sneak attack in her home territory in a quiet environment which is literally what she was trained to do vs. enemy territory surrounded by panic and literal hellfire

Totally the same thing, heaven forbid she react differently to those extremely similar circumstances

Rigama posted...

I want to hear what you have to say about Jamie. All that character development for nothing, and what a boring way to finish him.

The way he finished was boring sure, but I don't hate him going back to Cersei. The literal first episode of the show they were banging. He wanted to escape with her and they failed. I have no issues with that, again save for the boring way they died.
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Jaime: *kills the Mad King to spare King's Landing*
Jaime in S8: I never really cared about the innocent much lol

Besides what they did with Jaime it wasn't as much of a shitshow as the past two episodes.
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PatrickMahomes posted...

karlpilkington4 posted...

It was dumb.

Dany decided to kill innocent civilians for literally no reason.

7.5 seasons of people telling you the Targaryens are crazy is "literally no reason?"

Dany's whole plot line for the last 7.5 seasons was to be the opposite, and her actions showed it. There was no strategic or logical reason to do any of what she did this episode It was an outburst that made no sense, given her last 7.5 seasons of character development.
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karlpilkington4 posted...

PatrickMahomes posted...

karlpilkington4 posted...

It was dumb.

Dany decided to kill innocent civilians for literally no reason.

7.5 seasons of people telling you the Targaryens are crazy is "literally no reason?"

Dany's whole plot line for the last 7.5 seasons was to be the opposite, and her actions showed it. There was no strategic or logical reason to do any of what she did this episode It was an outburst that made no sense, given her last 7.5 seasons of character development.

They could have built up her madness earlier on. She always had a cruel side when she felt justified in her actions over something but nothing like mass murder of innocents.
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Jamie cares about the innocents, he just cares about Cersei even more because hes a loon.

And Dany did what she did to prove a point to everyone to not **** with her. Albeit, she did it in a very c**** way.

PatrickMahomes posted...

The way he finished was boring sure, but I don't hate him going back to Cersei. The literal first episode of the show they were banging. He wanted to escape with her and they failed. I have no issues with that, again save for the boring way they died.

So just completely ignoring all his development and going back to episode 1 Jamie is fine for you? Lmao

LethalAffinity posted...

karlpilkington4 posted...

PatrickMahomes posted...

karlpilkington4 posted...

It was dumb.

Dany decided to kill innocent civilians for literally no reason.

7.5 seasons of people telling you the Targaryens are crazy is "literally no reason?"

Dany's whole plot line for the last 7.5 seasons was to be the opposite, and her actions showed it. There was no strategic or logical reason to do any of what she did this episode It was an outburst that made no sense, given her last 7.5 seasons of character development.

They could have built up her madness earlier on. She always had a cruel side when she felt justified in her actions over something but nothing like mass murder of innocents.

Yea, the only thing close was when she executed those two guys in season 7. But they were opposing soldiers who refused to "bend the knee".
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LethalAffinity posted...

karlpilkington4 posted...

PatrickMahomes posted...

karlpilkington4 posted...

It was dumb.

Dany decided to kill innocent civilians for literally no reason.

7.5 seasons of people telling you the Targaryens are crazy is "literally no reason?"

Dany's whole plot line for the last 7.5 seasons was to be the opposite, and her actions showed it. There was no strategic or logical reason to do any of what she did this episode It was an outburst that made no sense, given her last 7.5 seasons of character development.

They could have built up her madness earlier on. She always had a cruel side when she felt justified in her actions over something but nothing like mass murder of innocents.

Thing is, George actually does develop her madness over time in the novels. In the show, however, they portrayed her as this perfect messiah figure which makes her heel turn here at the end really bad.
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People getting mad on the internet about stuff is a meme at this point, yes
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They don't portray Danearys as a perfect messiah through the show. They show her cruel side in Meereen, and burning the Tarlys.

The real complaint I have is with how they handled Vasyrs.
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Brienne's pussy was so bad it made Jaime leave her and go back to die with his sister who tried to have him killed
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What the fuck show were you all watching where Dany was portrayed as being a Messiah? A huge part of her arc has been how unreasonable she is in her actions and how she was being kept in check by those around her. Then the two people closest to her die, her lover undermines her entire journey, and her armies die.
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Daenerys is the breaker of chains and liberator of tyrants, she wanted nothing more than to be the greatest ruler Westeros has ever seen

*kills all of the people she wanted to foster and protect*

Seriously. What is there to rule now? Winterfell, the Stormlands, and Dorne?
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CM_Ponch posted...

What the fuck show were you all watching where Dany was portrayed as being a Messiah? A huge part of her arc has been how unreasonable she is in her actions and how she was being kept in check by those around her. Then the two people closest to her die, her lover undermines her entire journey, and her armies die.

Except for the hundreds of Dothraki Screamers and thousands of Unsullied that magically respawned
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DarthAragorn posted...

Brienne's pussy was so bad it made Jaime leave her and go back to die with his sister who tried to have him killed

Of course it was, it was 40 year old virigin pussy. Old dried up Cherry Bran. Jamie had two scoops and he was finished.
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CM_Ponch posted...

What the fuck show were you all watching where Dany was portrayed as being a Messiah? A huge part of her arc has been how unreasonable she is in her actions and how she was being kept in check by those around her. Then the two people closest to her die, her lover undermines her entire journey, and her armies die.

Her entire story has been about protecting innocents, freeing slaves and not being like her father. Idk what show you've been watching.
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It's a meme that there are people still defending this nonsensical bullshit of a season. At least there is only one more episode.
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Perascamin posted...

Except for the hundreds of Dothraki Screamers and thousands of Unsullied that magically respawned

Yeah that was dumb

karlpilkington4 posted...

Her entire story has been about protecting innocents, freeing slaves and not being like her father. Idk what show you've been watching.

No, that's what she claims to be about, it is not what her actions show. You fell for her character at face value despite the characters around her telling you not to
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CM_Ponch posted...

Perascamin posted...

Except for the hundreds of Dothraki Screamers and thousands of Unsullied that magically respawned

Yeah that was dumb

karlpilkington4 posted...

Her entire story has been about protecting innocents, freeing slaves and not being like her father. Idk what show you've been watching.

No, that's what she claims to be about, it is not what her actions show. You fell for her character at face value despite the characters around her telling you not to

So she didnt free the slaves and allow the Unsullied to choose to fight for her? Idk what you're even talking about. Name exactly what she did previously that was actually unjustified. Because I can't think of a thing, that wasn't just a grey area, if that..

She literally killed innocent people for no reason this episode. If she would have just went after Cersei from the beginning, I wouldn't have had a problem with some innocents dying in the process near that building. But she blatantly just decided to kill everyone.
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karlpilkington4 posted...

Name exactly what she did previously that was actually unjustified. Because I can't think of a thing, that just a grey area if that..

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It starts here, down to characters telling you this bad
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CM_Ponch posted...

karlpilkington4 posted...

Name exactly what she did previously that was actually unjustified. Because I can't think of a thing, that just a grey area if that..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E5vo8RvGuA" data-time="

She killed her enemies who vowed not to bend the knee, when they were given a choice. The same enemies who moments earlier were trying to kill her It's not even close to the same fucking thing.
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karlpilkington4 posted...

She killed her enemies who vowed not to bend the knee, when they were given a choice. The same enemies who moments earlier were trying to kill her It's not even close to the same f***ing thing.

Are you not even paying attention to what is being said? Tyrion is telling her to find another way and she refuses. It continues from there with the characters around her doubting her mindset. It's the entire reason Varys dies. You fell for a false prophet.
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It was a good episode.

Just not a good Game of Thrones episode.
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CM_Ponch posted...

karlpilkington4 posted...

She killed her enemies who vowed not to bend the knee, when they were given a choice. The same enemies who moments earlier were trying to kill her It's not even close to the same f***ing thing.

Are you not even paying attention to what is being said? Tyrion is telling her to find another way and she refuses. It continues from there with the characters around her doubting her mindset. It's the entire reason Varys dies. You fell for a false prophet.

Using her dragon to help take the city was not the problem. It was when she blatantly decided to kill everyone after Cersi's army surrendered. Idk how this is such a hard point to miss. I didnt fall for anything. It was shitty writing, and the literal opposite of her character for the last 7 seasons.
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Dany was always a messiah!

Remember how she burnt people alive and crucified thousands of people?
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karlpilkington4 posted...

Using her dragon to help take the city was not the problem. It was when she blatantly decided to kill everyone after Cersi's army surrendered. Idk how this is such a hard point to miss.

It's almost as if her character has suffered tremendous loss over the past few episodes and she isn't in the right state of mind. It's almost as if multiple characters have been questioning her decisions and telling her not to do the thing she did.
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Doom_Art posted...

Dany was always a messiah!

Remember how she burnt people alive and crucified thousands of people?

Yes, her enemies who actively tried to kill her. But we all know you have trouble with context.
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What they did to Jaime is the biggest sin of the show. This was a total hit job on the character that was built up even to about the final five minutes of the previous episode.

I can't believe TC actually referenced the first episode of the show to defend that.
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she literally had just said that she wanted to rule by fear because the people don't love her.

it was deliberate, and in line with what she said before she did it. she also wanted them to be an example for the rest of Westeros

I honestly don't know how I feel about this episode. Dany becoming the Mad Queen was not surprising, and I got a little twinge of schadenfreude thinking of the people who might actually be distraught seeing their precious khaleesi go full genocidal. Cleganebowl was about as good as it could have been, given the context of the show.

But it was hard to look past the numerous contrivances that made this episode possible, such as Urine Greyjoy forgetting to input his cheat codes into his scorpion before the battle, and Drogon's breath becoming super-explodey (Balerion the Dread unleashed hell on Harrenhal to become the stuff of legends, and yet the castle is still standing). Urine and Jaime's fight was completely unnecessary, and just an excuse to drag out one of the show's worst characters. Jaime and Cersei's end was so damn anticlimactic that even my easy-to-please parents complained about it.
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The whole season has been awful, and I didn't even mind episode 3, like most people did. But each episode besides maybe the 1st has had awful writing and execution.
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